Garrett Peppers and 1st rounder

Canton Dawg

@wargograw said:
Maybe not year 1. Think he does eventually though.

At 5'11' and 210 he'd better eat his wheaties.

Mudfly

@wargograw said:
Maybe not year 1. Think he does eventually though.

No way.....dont see that happening......nope.

LBC mike

He will play safety

wargograw

Mark Barron 6'1".

Tour2ma

@canton-dawg said:
News flash...he won't be playing LB in the NFL.

@mudfly said:
No way.....dont see that happening......nope.

I'll take some of that... I'm already up one beer on Mud...

1st play first Defensive series? No... but without a rostered, 3-down LOLB... at least that I can see, I think he'll draw an LB-hybrid role early and often.

Only way I can see losing a bet on that is if Gregg finds a better candidate.

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

I'll take some of that... I'm already up one beer on Mud...

1st play first Defensive series? No... but without a rostered, 3-down LOLB... at least that I can see, I think he'll draw an LB-hybrid role early and often.

Only way I can see losing a bet on that is if Gregg finds a better candidate.

You're up one beer???......remind me.....I thought we both missed on that bet....

Tour2ma

... or at least one of us was too drunk to be betting...

Mudfly

Id buy ya a beer anyday.....happily....

Tour2ma

... and back at ya... x 2...

Flugel

Outside of Braylon Edwards and Derrick Alexander, Michigan has given us lunch pal guys to admire like Safety Thom Darden, Center Steve Everitt, RB Leroy Hoard and even FB/H-Back Aaron Shea.

Mike Mayock (who was raised by a high school football coach) before he got drafted as a DB - has a lot of knowledge of DBs and what they show on film. I trust why he rated Peppers #1. And like Jon Gruden said, it doesn't hurt to have experience at S, CB and LBer when heading to the NFL because of all the different schemes he'll face from week to week.1 week he may see a lot of double tight; another he may see a lot more spread, another week he may face a great run team so the more ways he can defend people (as used by Harbaugh's staff) - the more intriguing he gets. In 2016, he had 15 tackles for a loss and we've seen some of these that were fun to watch.

While Jalapeno Peppers might not warm everyone's groin in Ohio - I get the feeling he changed Gregg Williams' football wood factor from balsa to sequoia.

Tour2ma

Michigan just took the lead over BAMA in this draft...

ROLL TIDE... or Woody will be insufferable...

mjp28

@tour2ma said:

Michigan just took the lead over BAMA in this draft...

ROLL TIDE... or Woody will be insufferable...

But if "m" is so good why can't they beat The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY?

(and yes we know they're better than in past years)

Tour2ma

Ton of "late round picks"...

BaconHound

Love Garrett, I'm in the camp that doesn't believe Peppers has a 2-3 down position in the NFL which should be a given at #25. I'm also nervous that Hue is talking using Peppers on offense. He is going to have to learn both sides of the ball?

Tour2ma

Also in the news...

Michigan lost half its starters...

Bob806

@jcam222 said:
I'll admit when they traded down I was pissed. I have to say though Garrett, peppers and Njoku AND 2018 1st? Close to a mic drop.

Me too. Well said.

syd

@mjp28 said:

Well some trade ammunition in the first round might help.

I still think that they could've done better but isn't that true about everyone.

well said and true

MLD Woody

@tour2ma said:

Also in the news...

Michigan lost half its starters...

Only once, just to put it in this thread:

Michigan had a lot of seniors on the roster. A lot of guys from the Hoke era. Not nearly at the level Harbaugh is bringing in, but they had the experience and a few years of Harbaugh coaching. This is not a usual case of losing all your seniors and getting worse, as we're still turning it into Harbaughs team.

Ex, we had 3 Sr OL and none were drafted. Saying "Look at all of the Srs they lost!" doesn't mean much when the guys replacing them will be better.

Alright, that's it.

mjp28

@tour2ma said:

Also in the news...

Michigan lost half its starters...

And the BUCKEYES didn't lose near the number of stars to the NFL as they did in 2016, should be good again in 2017-2018.

Flugel

@tour2ma said:

Ball hawking? No, Hooker wins that going away. But all around DB play? That gap narrows...

While I'm not a big fan of Chuckie, Gruden made a couple interesting comments about Peppers...

his PassD numbers would have been much higher had been primarily utilized in a single-high role, and

if he could pick one guy to be the last tackler between a ball carrier and the winning TD, it'd be Peppers.

Another thing he said is in the NFL he'll face a lot of double tights 1 week, then see multiple Receiver sets another week and strong running game another week and a lot of different things; so the more experience he's had at multiple roles like covering a slot, playing LBer, playing corner, playing Safety, etc - the more intriguing he is to NFL DCs. Like you said, good tackling doesn't hurt either.

I like Mayock a lot even if I find him more of an expert at some positions than others. He was a DB raised by a high school football coach so when he rated Peppers #1 as a Safety - I trust his knowledge in doing so.