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  • P Pumpkin Eater

    Lol yet another veteran capable of producing is shown the door.

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    L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Lol yet another veteran capable of producing is shown the door.

    Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

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      @pumpkin-eater said:

      Lol yet another veteran capable of producing is shown the door.

      Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

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      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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      @londonbrown said:

      Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

      It was the right decision for the team and done at the right time for the player.

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Agree...

        We might not see a TE lined up "inline" the entire season and as bad of a blocker as he was (and he was bad) Barn just can't complete with our kids as a slot receiver.

        Sad but true...

        I'll now wait for the "oh, tour, don't you remember 2015 when Barn not only led us in receiving, but also caught a TD with his butt cheeks?" replies.

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          W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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          oh, tour, don't you remember 2015 when Barn not only led us in receiving, but also caught a TD with his butt cheeks?

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            He DID catch a ball with his butt cheeks, tho

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              @pumpkin-eater said:

              Lol yet another veteran capable of producing is shown the door.

              Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @londonbrown said:

              Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

              Fine...if you think these guys will actually produce. Though, in my opinion I think they could have still used Barnidge....perhaps minimally in a mentoring capacity as well as for his possible production. But, again,he wasn't "their guy" so he was expendable.

              By the way....look for them to cut Des Bryant for the same reason...and maybe a couple of others.

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                @londonbrown said:

                Taking reps off Njoku and Devalve, what good does that do for the long term?

                Fine...if you think these guys will actually produce. Though, in my opinion I think they could have still used Barnidge....perhaps minimally in a mentoring capacity as well as for his possible production. But, again,he wasn't "their guy" so he was expendable.

                By the way....look for them to cut Des Bryant for the same reason...and maybe a couple of others.

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                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Fine...if you think these guys will actually produce. Though, in my opinion I think they could have still used Barnidge...

                Agreed....and one of my main complaints from last season....cutting veteran talent BEFORE knowing if you have a replacement....and instead of keeping them for depth(which we have none)....

                Im not too upset about Barny going....Njoku should be good enough....but the basic principle of how these Browns do it bugs me...

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  Just investing in players who will be here for the entire ride, Mud...

                  And thanks, war, for not leaving me hanging...

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                    oh, tour, don't you remember 2015 when Barn not only led us in receiving, but also caught a TD with his butt cheeks?

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                    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                    @wargograw said:

                    oh, tour, don't you remember 2015 when Barn not only led us in receiving, but also caught a TD with his butt cheeks?

                    And yet another not so great "but" vivid memory of recent BROWNS football.

                    ....I hope that football isn't on someone's mantle at home, ewww.

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                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                      Thought Barnidge was overrated due to the "Browns Factor". You can replace his physical abilities pretty easily.

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                        IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                        I kinda question just how useful the whole "vets mentoring younger players" really is in football. I mean, l'm sure the vets help those guys with regard to stuff like which coach to not piss off, and where the best bar is to get laid at, but with the actual game of football l'm just not sure how much mentoring they can do.

                        It's football, not rocket science, and if you actually make an NFL roster it stands to reason you basically know what it takes to block and catch balls, it's just a matter of reps for muscle memory and being as fit as you can be.

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                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                          Like coaching, mentoring is as effective as the recipient is willing to accept it.

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                            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                            if you're not a gronk or a prototypical 'uge' wideout like mike evans then you better know how to block decisively and all day.

                            don't dislike barnidge but..........

                            hee fucking haw

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                              R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                              According to Sports Science, Njoku has a larger catch radius than Mike Evans, but all I can think of is Uncle Rico breaking clay pigeons.

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                                2018 NFL DRAFT

                                First round: (2) Own pick, Texans' pick via 2017 draft-day trade.

                                Second round: (3) Own pick, Eagles' pick via 2016 draft-day trade, Texans' pick via Brock Osweiler trade.

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                                Fifth round: (1) Own pick.

                                Sixth round: (2) Own pick, Steelers' pick via Justin Gilbert trade.

                                Seventh round: (1) Own pick.

                                Can't wait. Hopefully the Texans go 0-16 next year. That would be nice, imagine if we win the Superbowl and Texans go winless. We get the Lombardi and the first and last picks of both the first and second rounds. Yeah baby! That's what I'm talking about! 🙂

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                                  2018 NFL DRAFT

                                  First round: (2) Own pick, Texans' pick via 2017 draft-day trade.

                                  Second round: (3) Own pick, Eagles' pick via 2016 draft-day trade, Texans' pick via Brock Osweiler trade.

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                                  Fifth round: (1) Own pick.

                                  Sixth round: (2) Own pick, Steelers' pick via Justin Gilbert trade.

                                  Seventh round: (1) Own pick.

                                  Can't wait. Hopefully the Texans go 0-16 next year. That would be nice, imagine if we win the Superbowl and Texans go winless. We get the Lombardi and the first and last picks of both the first and second rounds. Yeah baby! That's what I'm talking about! 🙂

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                                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                  @poeticg said:

                                  Can't wait. Hopefully the Texans go 0-16 next year.

                                  Hey... I gotta live with a Texan fan...

                                  Shoulda seen the look I got a couple days ago when we lost to the Astros, and I called them the dirty Bastros...

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                                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                    The veteran pro bowl player can teach the young players by example.

                                    By showing a pro bowl work ethic in the meeting rooms and on the practice field.

                                    Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.

                                    We'll have to see if these newer TE's can learn to block.

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                                      W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                      The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.

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                                        The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.

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                                        gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.

                                        Agree on mentoring at this stage. But to pull the rug out on Kessler's two main chemistry guys in one off-season? that's like a blind dog just learning how to hunt

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                                          The veteran pro bowl player can teach the young players by example.

                                          By showing a pro bowl work ethic in the meeting rooms and on the practice field.

                                          Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.

                                          We'll have to see if these newer TE's can learn to block.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                          @orion said:

                                          Barn didn't have another 'big' year last season. He's older and not a good blocker. We have other non blocking TE's...we cut the one with the best hands.

                                          Best hands? Not sure about that... I remember a few drops in 2016.... and more double-catches.

                                          Barn was a great story and a great guy. Thanks to a number of circumstances he had a career year in 2015, that, again due to many circumstances, he did not come close to matching in 2016. One side issue was his connect percentage which actually rose in 2016... to 67%.

                                          Did we have a TE with better hands? Small sample size, but yes, we did... Seth. No drops and an 83% connection rate. Time to go with youth...

                                          I wish Barn the best... hope he latches on with a contender... sees the playoffs and even a ring. But he was a one season wonder as a Brown... far from our first... won't be our last.

                                          @wargograw said:

                                          The whole mentoring thing is overblown. Dogs gonna hunt.

                                          Disagree... there is something to be said for a vet presence "in the room", "on the field"... but it alone is not enough to keep you on a squad.

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