Are you disappointed and why?
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To me, how I'm going to grade this draft will ultimately depend on how Kizer pans out. If he does, the FO gets an A+, if not, B-.
Eh....I didnt want any of them anyway.....KNEW we'd have to pick another next year, so was happy to stick with Kess and the Ostrich, instead of having to burn a 1st - 2nd -3rd over 3 straight years.....add Johnny and its 4 outta 5 years....
So....I have no expectation that Kizer is the guy....nor do I think the Browns think Kizer is the guy....so that part of the draft is already graded low for me.....
Its all the others Im hoping meet expectations.....and if Kizer shines, then its like a huge bonus.....
Eh....I didnt want any of them anyway.....KNEW we'd have to pick another next year, so was happy to stick with Kess and the Ostrich, instead of having to burn a 1st - 2nd -3rd over 3 straight years.....add Johnny and its 4 outta 5 years....
So....I have no expectation that Kizer is the guy....nor do I think the Browns think Kizer is the guy....so that part of the draft is already graded low for me.....
Its all the others Im hoping meet expectations.....and if Kizer shines, then its like a huge bonus.....
Question would be Mud- if the Browns didn't think Kizer is "the guy" then why waste a second round pick on him? FWIW, Hue already said Kizer is going ot get a chance to compete for the starting job. Really? I thought Deshone needed some time to "develop". The USA Today 2018 mock is out, and has us taking Darnold. Said it earlier- if that's the plan, just roll with Kessler and the Ostrich and "Suck for Sam".
lol - most expensive girls bike in history! Yea, I love rockin' mik's tees.
Nice bike, couldn't tell what the frame is though. Full suspension, disc brakes.
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Eh....I didnt want any of them anyway.....KNEW we'd have to pick another next year, so was happy to stick with Kess and the Ostrich, instead of having to burn a 1st - 2nd -3rd over 3 straight years.....add Johnny and its 4 outta 5 years....
So....I have no expectation that Kizer is the guy....nor do I think the Browns think Kizer is the guy....so that part of the draft is already graded low for me.....
Its all the others Im hoping meet expectations.....and if Kizer shines, then its like a huge bonus.....
Question would be Mud- if the Browns didn't think Kizer is "the guy" then why waste a second round pick on him? FWIW, Hue already said Kizer is going ot get a chance to compete for the starting job. Really? I thought Deshone needed some time to "develop". The USA Today 2018 mock is out, and has us taking Darnold. Said it earlier- if that's the plan, just roll with Kessler and the Ostrich and "Suck for Sam".
lol - most expensive girls bike in history! Yea, I love rockin' mik's tees.
Nice bike, couldn't tell what the frame is though. Full suspension, disc brakes.
Question would be Mud- if the Browns didn't think Kizer is "the guy" then why waste a second round pick on him? FWIW, Hue already said Kizer is going ot get a chance to compete for the starting job. Really? I thought Deshone needed some time to "develop". The USA Today 2018 mock is out, and has us taking Darnold. Said it earlier- if that's the plan, just roll with Kessler and the Ostrich and "Suck for Sam".
Nice bike, couldn't tell what the frame is though. Full suspension, disc brakes.
My money is on "carbon fiber"...
On Kizer... we only have to like Kizer's chances of being the guy enough to risk a 2nd on him... pure risk reward. My guess is that we didn't see a dimes worth of difference between he and/or Mitch and/or DeShaun, but at the price of a 2nd vs. a first, DeShon was the right prospect at the right price.
As for letting him compete, why not? Which of our four has established himself at this point? Let the "competition" determine who is most ready to learn as a starter, and who gets to sit and learn.
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Eh....I didnt want any of them anyway.....KNEW we'd have to pick another next year, so was happy to stick with Kess and the Ostrich, instead of having to burn a 1st - 2nd -3rd over 3 straight years.....add Johnny and its 4 outta 5 years....
So....I have no expectation that Kizer is the guy....nor do I think the Browns think Kizer is the guy....so that part of the draft is already graded low for me.....
Its all the others Im hoping meet expectations.....and if Kizer shines, then its like a huge bonus.....
Question would be Mud- if the Browns didn't think Kizer is "the guy" then why waste a second round pick on him? FWIW, Hue already said Kizer is going ot get a chance to compete for the starting job. Really? I thought Deshone needed some time to "develop". The USA Today 2018 mock is out, and has us taking Darnold. Said it earlier- if that's the plan, just roll with Kessler and the Ostrich and "Suck for Sam".
lol - most expensive girls bike in history! Yea, I love rockin' mik's tees.
Nice bike, couldn't tell what the frame is though. Full suspension, disc brakes.
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In what way was the drafting of Ogbah (2nd round) and Nassib (3rd round) a waste? Ogbah was making plays (even out of position) and Nassib was good for the first two games until he hurt his hand which hampered his development. He was also playing out of position. They are 4.3 Defensive ends trying to play linebacker in a 3.4. They both showed promise. Ndjoku was the second best tight end in the draft and has the most upside of any TE, said by almost every analyst considering he is only 20 years old!! Collins was hands down the best player on the defense when he came over last year and they only gave up a 3rd round compensatory pick for him. I will give you pepper's value is a little all over the board but he's exactly the type of high risk/reward player you take with your 2nd first round pick. If at worst he sucks at SS, his special teams abilities are elite. Bacon, you have the Jimmy Haslam effect going on where if it isn't fixed immediately it's a failure. I compare your thought process to the cubs fans in year 2 of the Theo era who were up in arms because he wouldn't sign high priced free agents, even after he explicitly told everyone what he was doing. How did that work out? Very few rookies ever make real impacts, including qb's (manning and luck sucked ass their first year). This regime has made it abundantly clear they are going to take talented players and need time to develop a roster. Give a team a chance before you call picks a waste.
Ogbah and Nassib won't be starters and will be fill in players and the Browns used a 2nd & 3rd on them. Drafting an elite special teamer #25th isn't smart and Ndjoku is still an unknown quantity on a team where the GM knows they need starters to come in right away and produce.
Ogbah and Nassib won't be starters and will be fill in players and the Browns used a 2nd & 3rd on them. Drafting an elite special teamer #25th isn't smart and Ndjoku is still an unknown quantity on a team where the GM knows they need starters to come in right away and produce.
Who is going to start at the other DE spot...assuming Garrett takes over one? Ogbah is the incumbent. Who do you think replaces him as starter?
My answer? no one.
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No, I got it. But I'd rather use the joke to push another Michigan guy haha. I'm still ecstatic with the one we got.
Yes, we know that apparently all you care about are the Michidick guys on this roster.....so tell us this: does Stribling have a chance to contribute? I think he may.
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Drafted Peppers Not disappointed
Even tho we only drafted him once? What kinda homer are you?
Ogbah will be our starting LE/SDE. Hardly a "fill in" player.
And Nassib? Rotational 5/7? Situational 5/3? Both?
Even tho we only drafted him once? What kinda homer are you?
And Nassib? Rotational 5/7? Situational 5/3? Both?
If any of our ends get kicked inside its Ogbah. He just plays lower than Carl. Of course only being 6'2 while carl is easily 6'5 helps.
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I am disappointed in all of these armchair and keyboard coaches criticizing the draft.
Wait a few years knob lickers and then tell me if you are disappointed or not..
For fuck's sake these kids haven't even played a down yet in the NFL!
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Will Garrett get hurt? Very, very likely. Considering he is a show off, considering he will be the golden boy, and considering he will be trying to make miracles in every game because we have no offense? Yeah, fatigue and overplay most likely earmark him for a 2017 injury.This draft for the Browns was pure shit. Kizer? That's who Hue fell in love with this year? Seriously, Hue is the dumbest motherfucking coach in the history of the NFL. He is dumber than Blow-me-o Crennel.
Agreed Garrett will try to do too much and get caught out of position early and often.
Regarding Kizer- doing a little more research. His first 12 or so college games were pretty good, his last 10 sucked. Did other teams figure out how to confuse him?
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If any of our ends get kicked inside its Ogbah. He just plays lower than Carl. Of course only being 6'2 while carl is easily 6'5 helps.
True, but Carl's #1 tech need is playing lower... and a 6'5 frame with a wingspan in the middle can take away a lot of short to medium throws...
Then again... that sounds like a job for Myles...
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Thanks! It's a Niner RIP 9
I have a relatively cheap Jamis mountain bike- it only goes out in wet weather and snow. I don't ride trails, unless they're damn near paved. A crash at my age would result in a trip to the hospital. I've got a nice custom Waterford for the road.
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@ghoolie said:
Will Garrett get hurt? Very, very likely. Considering he is a show off, considering he will be the golden boy, and considering he will be trying to make miracles in every game because we have no offense? Yeah, fatigue and overplay most likely earmark him for a 2017 injury.This draft for the Browns was pure shit. Kizer? That's who Hue fell in love with this year? Seriously, Hue is the dumbest motherfucking coach in the history of the NFL. He is dumber than Blow-me-o Crennel.
Agreed Garrett will try to do too much and get caught out of position early and often.
Regarding Kizer- doing a little more research. His first 12 or so college games were pretty good, his last 10 sucked. Did other teams figure out how to confuse him?
Agreed Garrett will try to do too much and get caught out of position early and often.
Regarding Kizer- doing a little more research. His first 12 or so college games were pretty good, his last 10 sucked. Did other teams figure out how to confuse him?
So if mark dantonio can do it you suppose Marvin lewis can figure it out?
WSS
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I have a relatively cheap Jamis mountain bike- it only goes out in wet weather and snow. I don't ride trails, unless they're damn near paved. A crash at my age would result in a trip to the hospital. I've got a nice custom Waterford for the road.
Nice! I had a Jamis Dakar XCR before my 9er...... They are all soul cleansing once you throw your leg over 'em.
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@ghoolie said:
Will Garrett get hurt? Very, very likely. Considering he is a show off, considering he will be the golden boy, and considering he will be trying to make miracles in every game because we have no offense? Yeah, fatigue and overplay most likely earmark him for a 2017 injury.This draft for the Browns was pure shit. Kizer? That's who Hue fell in love with this year? Seriously, Hue is the dumbest motherfucking coach in the history of the NFL. He is dumber than Blow-me-o Crennel.
Agreed Garrett will try to do too much and get caught out of position early and often.
Regarding Kizer- doing a little more research. His first 12 or so college games were pretty good, his last 10 sucked. Did other teams figure out how to confuse him?
Regarding Kizer- doing a little more research. His first 12 or so college games were pretty good, his last 10 sucked. Did other teams figure out how to confuse him?
Can't discount the possibility that "the second time around" was not a factor, but that ND 2016 was an inferior team compared to ND 2015 is indisputable.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I have to laugh at the criticisms of Garrett before he's even seen in preseason. He is not a stupid man and will take well to Williams's coaching. He will play exactly the way Williams wants him to play.
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I have to laugh at the criticisms of Garrett before he's even seen in preseason. He is not a stupid man and will take well to Williams's coaching. He will play exactly the way Williams wants him to play.
I have to laugh at the criticisms of Garrett before he's even seen in preseason. He is not a stupid man and will take well to Williams's coaching. He will play exactly the way Williams wants him to play.
My favorite excerpt from The article Mike Silver posted today:
"Earlier in April, Jackson and Williams were part of a small Browns contingent that traveled to College Station, Texas, for a private dinner with Garrett. The next day at Texas A&M, they put him through a workout that, in Williams' eyes, was as much of a psychological test as a physical one. "My goal was to make him uncomfortable, and winded as fuck, and to see how he'd react," Williams explained. "We simulated a 15-play drive, and after some plays, I'd make him do up-downs before the next one, just to tire him out even more. We got all the way down near the goal line, and I kicked it up to 10 up-downs, thinking he might collapse or quit or say 'To hell with this.' He just did them and lined up, and on the next play, he came off the edge like I've maybe seen two people in my life -- Bruce Smith and Jevon Kearse -- and sacked the quarterback. It was amazing."
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No, I got it. But I'd rather use the joke to push another Michigan guy haha. I'm still ecstatic with the one we got.
Yes, we know that apparently all you care about are the Michidick guys on this roster.....so tell us this: does Stribling have a chance to contribute? I think he may.
Yes, we know that apparently all you care about are the Michidick guys on this roster.....so tell us this: does Stribling have a chance to contribute? I think he may.
Oh, right, clearly. All I care about is getting Michigan guys.... I know for a fact you (and others) pushed more OSU / Ohio guys than I did.
Stribling might be on the PS and use the time to get more athletic
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I have to laugh at the criticisms of Garrett before he's even seen in preseason. He is not a stupid man and will take well to Williams's coaching. He will play exactly the way Williams wants him to play.
My favorite excerpt from The article Mike Silver posted today:
"Earlier in April, Jackson and Williams were part of a small Browns contingent that traveled to College Station, Texas, for a private dinner with Garrett. The next day at Texas A&M, they put him through a workout that, in Williams' eyes, was as much of a psychological test as a physical one. "My goal was to make him uncomfortable, and winded as fuck, and to see how he'd react," Williams explained. "We simulated a 15-play drive, and after some plays, I'd make him do up-downs before the next one, just to tire him out even more. We got all the way down near the goal line, and I kicked it up to 10 up-downs, thinking he might collapse or quit or say 'To hell with this.' He just did them and lined up, and on the next play, he came off the edge like I've maybe seen two people in my life -- Bruce Smith and Jevon Kearse -- and sacked the quarterback. It was amazing."
My favorite excerpt from The article Mike Silver posted today:
"Earlier in April, Jackson and Williams were part of a small Browns contingent that traveled to College Station, Texas, for a private dinner with Garrett. The next day at Texas A&M, they put him through a workout that, in Williams' eyes, was as much of a psychological test as a physical one. "My goal was to make him uncomfortable, and winded as fuck, and to see how he'd react," Williams explained. "We simulated a 15-play drive, and after some plays, I'd make him do up-downs before the next one, just to tire him out even more. We got all the way down near the goal line, and I kicked it up to 10 up-downs, thinking he might collapse or quit or say 'To hell with this.' He just did them and lined up, and on the next play, he came off the edge like I've maybe seen two people in my life -- Bruce Smith and Jevon Kearse -- and sacked the quarterback. It was amazing."
Which verifies exactly what Garrett has said all along, that he wants to be the best that's ever played the game and he is willing to work his tail off every day to attain that goal. He has also stated that he wants to be part of the foundation that turns around the Cleveland Browns. Peppers seems to have that exact same approach to the game. Watching these two feed off one another along with Collins and Joe Haden is going to light a fire in this defense that Cleveland hasn't seen in years. This is going to be a real fun defense to watch put it all together as the season unfolds. We're going to terrorize some teams that have already chalked us up in the W column.
EDIT: One other thing from the article: "Lastly, Williams invited Myles Garrett over to share a text message he received from Bruce Smith after the Browns selected him. Smith said he’d love to mentor Garrett. Williams said he was going to invite Smith to one of the team’s minicamps."
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Well this is the story from Cleveland. com. Rather than just a link I copied the whole thing.
Anybody notice anything strange?
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Grading the Browns 2017 draft class
BEREA, Ohio The Browns made 10 picks in the 2017 NFL Draft. That includes the No. 1 overall pick, three first-round picks and five in the first three rounds.
While the Browns didnt have 14 picks like in 2016, this years draft was more front-loaded. Last year, nine of the Browns 14 picks came after the third round.
The Browns drafted consensus No. 1 pick Myles Garrett first overall, addressed a need at safety and punt returner with first-rounder Jabrill Peppers, and even drafted a quarterback DeShone Watson in the third round.
You saw the headline so you know were going to ask you to grade this years Browns draft class. But were not asking you to grade it on potential or the careers you think the players might have. Thats unrealistic.
So instead, lets grade this Browns draft on how the team addressed needs and considering what it took to get the players it wanted. Below is a recap of this years draft class. Below that is your chance to vote.
- By Scott Patsko, cleveland.com
Photo by Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com
Myles Garrett, Texas A&M, DE
First Round, No. 1 overall
The Browns suffered through a 1-15 season to earn the No. 1 pick in the draft, but the reward was the consensus No. 1 in Garrett. He fills a big need at defensive end and should be a big boost for the Browns pass rush, which was 30th in the NFL last season with 26 sacks. Garrett had 32.5 sacks over the last three seasons.
Jabrill Peppers, Michigan, S
First Round, No. 25 overall
The Browns traded out of the No. 12 spot (gaining a 2018 first-round pick in the deal) and moved back 13 spots to take Peppers, who is expected to play safety, return punts and get opportunities on offense.
David Njoku, Miami, TE
First Round, No. 29 overall
Njoku was considered by most draft analysts as the second-best tight end in the draft. The Browns had to trade the No. 33 overall pick and a fourth-rounder to move up to get him.
DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame, QB
Second Round, No. 52 overall
Kizer comes with a pick the Browns acquired in a 2016 draft-day trade with the Titans. The Browns say the Toledo native to get a chance to compete for the starting spot in training camp.
Larry Ogunjobi, UNC-Charlotte, DL
Third Round, No. 65 overall
The muscular 300-pound defensive tackle is an impressive sight, and he left UNC-Charlotte as the schools all-time leader in tackles, tackles for loss, sacks and QB hurries.
Howard Wilson, Houston, CB
Fourth Round, No. 126 overall
The Browns traded away two fourth-round picks earlier in the draft and gave up a pair of fifth-rounders to get back in and take Wilson with the 126th overall pick. He had five interceptions and 10 passes defensed last season.
Roderick Johnson, Florida State, OL
Fifth Round, No. 160 overall
The Browns trade up 21 spots in the fifth round to take Johnson, a left tackle. Along with swapping fifth-rounders, the Browns gave the Jets a seventh-round pick for a sixth-rounder. When Cameron Erving moved from tackle to center at Florida State, Johnson replaced him at left tackle.
Caleb Brantley, Florida, DT
Sixth Round, No. 185 overall
Brantley was projected to go in the first few rounds before he was charged with misdemeanor battery on April 13. He had 31 tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss and 2.5 sacks last season.
Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State, K
Seventh Round, No. 224 overall
Gonzalez is the all-time FBS career leader for made field goals (96). He finished his college career with six FBS records, the most ever for a kicker. Hes the first kicker drafted by the Browns since 1989.
Matthew Dayes, NC State, RB
Seventh Round, No. 252 overall
Dayes was the second-to-last player drafted. The pick was acquired in an earlier trade with the Broncos. Dayes rushed for 1,166 yards and 10 touchdowns last season.
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Far from disappointed. They must have duct taped the owner and left him in a closet until the draft was over, because this draft makes sense. No JFF, no Weedeater. It was a thin year for QBs so they did not overreach for one (next year is supposed to be a better crop)? If they keep getting multiple first round picks every year and not squandering them they will get dramatically better over the next several seasons. If they just don't can the coach after they win 4 this year, just pick a course and stay on it rather than sailing in circles.......Well this is the story from Cleveland. com. Rather than just a link I copied the whole thing.
Anybody notice anything strange?
-f09eaa2772224ae2.jpg
Grading the Browns 2017 draft class
BEREA, Ohio The Browns made 10 picks in the 2017 NFL Draft. That includes the No. 1 overall pick, three first-round picks and five in the first three rounds.
While the Browns didnt have 14 picks like in 2016, this years draft was more front-loaded. Last year, nine of the Browns 14 picks came after the third round.
The Browns drafted consensus No. 1 pick Myles Garrett first overall, addressed a need at safety and punt returner with first-rounder Gerbil Peppers, and even drafted a quarterback DeShone Watson in the third round.
You saw the headline so you know were going to ask you to grade this years Browns draft class. But were not asking you to grade it on potential or the careers you think the players might have. Thats unrealistic.
So instead, lets grade this Browns draft on how the team addressed needs and considering what it took to get the players it wanted. Below is a recap of this years draft class. Below that is your chance to vote.
- By Scott Patsko, cleveland.com
Photo by Joshua Gunter, cleveland.com
Myles Garrett, Texas A&M, DE
First Round, No. 1 overall
The Browns suffered through a 1-15 season to earn the No. 1 pick in the draft, but the reward was the consensus No. 1 in Garrett. He fills a big need at defensive end and should be a big boost for the Browns pass rush, which was 30th in the NFL last season with 26 sacks. Garrett had 32.5 sacks over the last three seasons.
Gerbil Peppers, Michigan, S
First Round, No. 25 overall
The Browns traded out of the No. 12 spot (gaining a 2018 first-round pick in the deal) and moved back 13 spots to take Peppers, who is expected to play safety, return punts and get opportunities on offense.
David Njoku, Miami, TE
First Round, No. 29 overall
Njoku was considered by most draft analysts as the second-best tight end in the draft. The Browns had to trade the No. 33 overall pick and a fourth-rounder to move up to get him.
DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame, QB
Second Round, No. 52 overall
Kizer comes with a pick the Browns acquired in a 2016 draft-day trade with the Titans. The Browns say the Toledo native to get a chance to compete for the starting spot in training camp.
Larry Ogunjobi, UNC-Charlotte, DL
Third Round, No. 65 overall
The muscular 300-pound defensive tackle is an impressive sight, and he left UNC-Charlotte as the schools all-time leader in tackles, tackles for loss, sacks and QB hurries.
Howard Wilson, Houston, CB
Fourth Round, No. 126 overall
The Browns traded away two fourth-round picks earlier in the draft and gave up a pair of fifth-rounders to get back in and take Wilson with the 126th overall pick. He had five interceptions and 10 passes defensed last season.
Roderick Johnson, Florida State, OL
Fifth Round, No. 160 overall
The Browns trade up 21 spots in the fifth round to take Johnson, a left tackle. Along with swapping fifth-rounders, the Browns gave the Jets a seventh-round pick for a sixth-rounder. When Cameron Erving moved from tackle to center at Florida State, Johnson replaced him at left tackle.
Caleb Brantley, Florida, DT
Sixth Round, No. 185 overall
Brantley was projected to go in the first few rounds before he was charged with misdemeanor battery on April 13. He had 31 tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss and 2.5 sacks last season.
Zane Gonzalez, Arizona State, K
Seventh Round, No. 224 overall
Gonzalez is the all-time FBS career leader for made field goals (96). He finished his college career with six FBS records, the most ever for a kicker. Hes the first kicker drafted by the Browns since 1989.
Matthew Dayes, NC State, RB
Seventh Round, No. 252 overall
Dayes was the second-to-last player drafted. The pick was acquired in an earlier trade with the Broncos. Dayes rushed for 1,166 yards and 10 touchdowns last season.
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I have to laugh at the criticisms of Garrett before he's even seen in preseason. He is not a stupid man and will take well to Williams's coaching. He will play exactly the way Williams wants him to play.
My favorite excerpt from The article Mike Silver posted today:
"Earlier in April, Jackson and Williams were part of a small Browns contingent that traveled to College Station, Texas, for a private dinner with Garrett. The next day at Texas A&M, they put him through a workout that, in Williams' eyes, was as much of a psychological test as a physical one. "My goal was to make him uncomfortable, and winded as fuck, and to see how he'd react," Williams explained. "We simulated a 15-play drive, and after some plays, I'd make him do up-downs before the next one, just to tire him out even more. We got all the way down near the goal line, and I kicked it up to 10 up-downs, thinking he might collapse or quit or say 'To hell with this.' He just did them and lined up, and on the next play, he came off the edge like I've maybe seen two people in my life -- Bruce Smith and Jevon Kearse -- and sacked the quarterback. It was amazing."
"My goal was to make him uncomfortable, and winded as fuck..."
Damn but I love hearing our DC talk like a DC again...
... is going to light a fire in this defense that Cleveland hasn't seen in years.
I'm not sure a "Johnny come lately" can have a true appreciation of just how long it has been. While we've had "glimpses" as recently as under Shurmur you have to go back to the late-80's to see a sustained, truly dominant D in orange, white and brown.
Far from disappointed. They must have duct taped the owner and left him in a closet until the draft was over, because this draft makes sense.
lol... as much as I enjoy the image... no. This owner has bought in. Sashi&Co developed and presented "a business plan" for this "business", and after testing it with questions, the owner/CEO bought in.
That plus any recent disasters he had a hand in creating... and maybe a little input from Dee... have combined to have him sit back and watch it happen. I have a feeling he likes what he is seeing, but it will have to be backed up by what he sees starting in August.
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Who the Steelers were taking is irrelevant. We wanted to get back in the first round to have N'joku for five years so found a trading partner, it's nothing to do with who they were going to take.
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