The turn around starts now!
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I am excited about the Kizer pick.
Yeah so the guy threw some pick sixes in college. Big deal.He's got the size, arm strength, and the ability to extend plays and play in the AFCN.
I really can't wait to see him and Kess battle it out in camp/Preseason. Gonna be interesting to see who rises to the occasion.
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Just really pleased to see a positive outlook, makes a change to those who usually shout loudest.
I am full of beer whisky and curry though so not much could make me be less than pleased right now
Just really pleased to see a positive outlook, makes a change to those who usually shout loudest.
I am full of beer whisky and curry though so not much could make me be less than pleased right now
Alcohol and curry. To me that reads: regurgitation.
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I'm not saying the browns make the playoffs or even get above .500 this season.....
Why not?
Flame away negative nancys
Oh no, here come the orange and brown glasses BROWNS go 9-7 and shock the football world making the playoffs as a wild card.
@boo-fagley said:
I see what the Browns have done now. There was not a QB worthy a 1st round pick in their eyes. So, they loaded up on 3 first round impact players focusing on the defense. Taking Kizer in the 2nd is no pressure on the Browns or Kizer. The Browns can sit back and let Kizer develop and prove that he should be the starter. One way or another the Browns should have a very good idea who that have in Kizer by seasons end.
If Kizer shines and looks like the man, the Browns can move forward stocking the team with talent since they are loaded with high picks again. I Kizer does not look to be the man, this next draft is rumored to be loaded with QBs.
What did you do to get so smart during your little hiatus?
Why not? ===>
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<==== Oh no, here come the orange and brown glasses BROWNS go 9-7 and shock the football world making the playoffs as a wild card.
lol... sudden wind change at the keyboard?
Not seeing updated odds, but back in Dec you could have gotten +500 on Kess being our 2018 starter.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
@boo-fagley said:
I see what the Browns have done now. There was not a QB worthy a 1st round pick in their eyes. So, they loaded up on 3 first round impact players focusing on the defense. Taking Kizer in the 2nd is no pressure on the Browns or Kizer. The Browns can sit back and let Kizer develop and prove that he should be the starter. One way or another the Browns should have a very good idea who that have in Kizer by seasons end.
If Kizer shines and looks like the man, the Browns can move forward stocking the team with talent since they are loaded with high picks again. I Kizer does not look to be the man, this next draft is rumored to be loaded with QBs.
What did you do to get so smart during your little hiatus?
Why not? ===>
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<==== Oh no, here come the orange and brown glasses BROWNS go 9-7 and shock the football world making the playoffs as a wild card.
lol... sudden wind change at the keyboard?
Not seeing updated odds, but back in Dec you could have gotten +500 on Kess being our 2018 starter.
What did you do to get so smart during your little hiatus?
It's pretty obvious his wife got tired of his dumbassery and took over his username.
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It's pretty obvious his wife got tired of his dumbassery and took over his username.
Not sure 'bout that... It's not like the shift we see when your hunny takes over and words like "dumbassery" disappear...
BTW... loved the dryer story...
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@boo-fagley said:
I see what the Browns have done now. There was not a QB worthy a 1st round pick in their eyes. So, they loaded up on 3 first round impact players focusing on the defense. Taking Kizer in the 2nd is no pressure on the Browns or Kizer. The Browns can sit back and let Kizer develop and prove that he should be the starter. One way or another the Browns should have a very good idea who that have in Kizer by seasons end.
If Kizer shines and looks like the man, the Browns can move forward stocking the team with talent since they are loaded with high picks again. I Kizer does not look to be the man, this next draft is rumored to be loaded with QBs.
What did you do to get so smart during your little hiatus?
Why not? ===>
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<==== Oh no, here come the orange and brown glasses BROWNS go 9-7 and shock the football world making the playoffs as a wild card.
lol... sudden wind change at the keyboard?
Not seeing updated odds, but back in Dec you could have gotten +500 on Kess being our 2018 starter.
5/2/17 - Well since you sorta asked about future odds the BROWNS are +9' against the home opener vs Pissburgh.What did you do to get so smart during your little hiatus?
lol... sudden wind change at the keyboard?
Not seeing updated odds, but back in Dec you could have gotten +500 on Kess being our 2018 starter.
And the futures, I see they don't have the big 999:1 anymore but the BROWNS are 300:1 to win the Super Bowl and from vegasinsider.com :
ODDS TO WIN 2017-18 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP (1/21/18)
Team Odds
New England Patriots 21/10 <--- Tom Brady to be the MVP again!
Pittsburgh Steelers 7/1 <--- that team?
Houston Texans 17/2
Oakland Raiders 17/2 <--- the Raiders trying to clean up in Vegas already
Kansas City Chiefs 11/1
Denver Broncos 12/1
Indianapolis Colts 15/1
Baltimore Ravens 15/1 <--- the AFCN tough again?
Tennessee Titans 20/1
Cincinnati Bengals 25/1 <--- ?
Miami Dolphins 25/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 30/1
Los Angeles Chargers 35/1
Buffalo Bills 45/1
New York Jets 80/1
Cleveland Browns 150/1 <--- the biggest longshot by almost 2:1 over the Nyets
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What...no Joe Thomas at LT??
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If you believe the adage that the game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage, I think the Browns have shored up immense talent upgrades at both sides of the line and there is real potential for optimism there.
However, the team still lacks playmakers. No real QB. No #1 receiver. And a secondary that should only scare fans of the Cleveland Browns.
We have a long way to go yet before I'd be comfortable predicting a real turnaround.
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The front seven upgrade can only help the secondary, it's a lot easier to cover guys back there when the receiver doesn't have 5-6 seconds to run around getting open
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I agree London. I just think that helps the games be closer... not necessarily winning 'em for us.
Certainly cause for positivity. The Browns are actually strong in a couple of areas this year, which we haven't been able to claim for a while. But does it get us even six wins this year? I'm not confident.
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1] Don't underestimate the value of our first decent K since Phil Dawson. That's at least another 2 wins right there..
2] If Alex Smith can get the Chiefs to the playoffs, Kessler can get the Browns to 5-11. Remember, the Chiefs [now] have a much worse starting line than Cleveland.. Chiefs were overall 14th [in PFF] last year with all their starters slightly above average.. the Lake Wobegone of OL's.
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@boo-fagley said:
What hiatus?
The Browns let all the teams that needed a QB take them on day 1 then they went back to NE. The Browns were the last team with a definite need at a QB for the future. The Browns wanted Jimmy dont kid yourself, but they tried strong arming the Patriots to get Jimmy. I dont know what they offered, but it must have been a paltry sum.
Post draft, Sashi or Jackson said that they really liked Watson. If they really liked Watson then why did they trade with Houston and let them take him in a cutthroat league? The answer is that they didnt like him and are still playing everyone with smoke and mirrors.
Because they lie. They didn't really like Watson, but they won't say that. None of these QBs they passed on floated their boat: Wentz, Watson, Mahomes. They may have like Goff, but he was gone, and so was Trubisky. They were willing to take Kizer with a 2d rounder, and Kessler with a 3rd rounder....but I am of the opinion that they think neither is their "franchise" guy. They are just willing to roll with them at this point and see if they can catch a 7 instead of snake eyes.
Oh! And on Garropolo...they may have had some interest....with their #52 pick. Just like I said, I and apparently they were not willing to give up more than that for him. If they had made that deal, that would have been about right. NE/BB thinks they should have gotten more. Well, they didn't...and now, unless they make a reasonable trade, they will lose HIM to FA....just like all the other mediocre backup QBs they have had there.
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@boo-fagley said:
The answer is that they didnt like him and are still playing everyone with smoke and mirrors.
Huejax guy with the highest upside was MaHolmes. KC burnt them moving up to #10(bills). Did we talk to Bills? probably, but not in KC's pick volume. Part 2 of a re-boot. Did Huejax get squeezed again at QB for picks? maybe. Watson clearly was not in picture. Proof--We gained a 1st at next years QB retaining ammo as we move to Houston's pick. Maholmes & Howard vs Kizer & Nujoku..enjoy
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If you believe the adage that the game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage, I think the Browns have shored up immense talent upgrades at both sides of the line and there is real potential for optimism there.
However, the team still lacks playmakers. No real QB. No #1 receiver. And a secondary that should only scare fans of the Cleveland Browns.
We have a long way to go yet before I'd be comfortable predicting a real turnaround.
Huejax also said we were letting our QB come to us... an aproach the Bears' GM could learn from...
If you believe the adage that the game is won and lost at the line of scrimmage, I think the Browns have shored up immense talent upgrades at both sides of the line and there is real potential for optimism there.
However, the team still lacks playmakers. No real QB. No #1 receiver. And a secondary that should only scare fans of the Cleveland Browns.
We have a long way to go yet before I'd be comfortable predicting a real turnaround.Comfort levels vary...
There are no shortcuts. We are building methodically with high probability picks at impact positions. We shuffled our QB deck with two new cards. If after playing 16 hands this Fall we want to refreshen the deck, we are in a position to do so.
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