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  • @kvoethe said:

    This place is sooooooo much better with ghoolie on ignore

    So it works?

    @lbc-mike said:

    So it works?

    Like a fucking champ! Until some a$$ goes and quotes him... but then usually it's "The Best of..." For example...

    "THE QB makes the OL."

    Now THAT is some funny shit right there...

  • What does Crowell think, that the new standard is 900 yrds? Let him walk if he has that attitude. We can replace him next draft.

  • Alrighty then...

    Crow has signed.

    But will he report?

  • Quit trying to play catch-up threw the air & feed the Crow. When he got the rock, positive gains resulted behind a awful line play. FO surly has heard his magic $$ numbers. Let it play out. spottrac would show Crow's price is not robbing any team for a show me season..

  • Crow was a part of "playing catch-up"...

    PFF Fantasy Football โœ” @PFF_Fantasy

    47.5 percent of Isaiah Crowellโ€™s rushing yards this season came on 16 carries.

  • Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

  • Don't think he will be here in 2018, the FO will see him as replaceable and rightly so

  • Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

    @londonbrown said:

    Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

    Lovely.

  • Not sure why Ghoolie is waxing poetic about Andy Dalton. Better than anything the Browns have had in forever? Sure. Competent somewhat? Sure.

    In the top half of starting QBs in the NFL? I say NO. Right around the middle at best:

    Not better than:

    Tom Brady

    Ben R.

    Flacco

    Luck

    Mariota

    A. Smith

    Carr

    Rivers

    Eli

    Cousins...imo

    even Prescott

    Stafford

    Rodgers

    Newton

    Brees

    Ryan

    Winston

    Wilson

    Palmer.

    That is 19 better imo.

    He is in a group with the likes of Tannehill, Bortles, Bradford, T. Taylor, Wentz

  • Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

    @londonbrown said:

    Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

    I just don't believe this. I mean, its not like he plays like a dandy or something.He is a tough RB.

  • @londonbrown said:

    Mike Clay

    @MikeClayNFL

    Good timing. Just came across this stat: Isaiah Crowell ranks dead last in YAC (min 300 att) since he entered the league. Hmm.

    03/04/2017, 18:55

    I just don't believe this. I mean, its not like he plays like a dandy or something.He is a tough RB.

    @the-gipper said:

    I just don't believe this. I mean, its not like he plays like a dandy or something.He is a tough RB.

    Yeah it doesn't seem like it would be that way because I never really saw him as running soft. I would have to be able to go back and watch his runs.

  • I definitely think Crow will report. If he thinks about it objectively, he's in a pretty good situation (not great, but good). He has a coach who definitely WANTS to run the ball, and the team hasn't drafted a RB in the past two years or really signed a free agent worth a damn. That should tell him that the franchise believes in him. Additionally, the Browns invested heavily in the OL and the defense, so it's possible we won't be getting our ass whipped as much early, which would allow us to TRY to run the ball in the second half of more games. And finally, this offense will NEED to run the ball in order to be successful. We don't have a stud QB or outstanding WR's, so we will have to rely on the running game to move the chains and score touchdowns. It's a pretty good formula for a guy who obviously wants to ink a long-term contract. If we're in football games, he's going to get the rock. On paper (which doesn't always mean much, but whatever) it looks like we have a very good OL, and also one that excels at run blocking. Bitonio, Zeitler, and Shon Coleman (probable starter at RT) are built for mauling. This could be an awesome opportunity for Crow to run through some nice holes.

    As a side note, I'm having some second thoughts about drafting Njoku. We could've gotten Dalvin Cook with that pick, and that would've been a nice jolt to our offense. Cook excels at running traps and counters, and Bitonio is ruthless on those plays.

  • jiggins you are assuming Crow gets better at seeing/anticipating those holes to run through. Big assumption.

  • Not sure why Ghoolie is waxing poetic about Andy Dalton. Better than anything the Browns have had in forever? Sure. Competent somewhat? Sure.

    In the top half of starting QBs in the NFL? I say NO. Right around the middle at best:

    Not better than:

    Tom Brady

    Ben R.

    Flacco

    Luck

    Mariota

    A. Smith

    Carr

    Rivers

    Eli

    Cousins...imo

    even Prescott

    Stafford

    Rodgers

    Newton

    Brees

    Ryan

    Winston

    Wilson

    Palmer.

    That is 19 better imo.

    He is in a group with the likes of Tannehill, Bortles, Bradford, T. Taylor, Wentz

    @the-gipper said:

    He is in a group with the likes of Tannehill, Bortles, Bradford, T. Taylor, Wentz

    Tannehill is a lot better than that group he's been lumped with, Wentz will be too, he was asked to do a hell of a lot for a rookie. That will see him in good stead

  • jiggins you are assuming Crow gets better at seeing/anticipating those holes to run through. Big assumption.

    @texasag1969 said:

    jiggins you are assuming Crow gets better at seeing/anticipating those holes to run through. Big assumption.

    Could be semantics, but if the hole is where it is supposed to be, then he "finds" and hits it pretty damn hard.

    But, yes, ZBS and "improv" are generally not his things...

    Weird thing is that the most impressed I've ever been with a run of his was one he bounced outside and then once in the broken field showed pretty good "vision".

    Edit: found a bootleg vid... it was 2014 ATL game.

  • @the-gipper said:

    He is in a group with the likes of Tannehill, Bortles, Bradford, T. Taylor, Wentz

    Tannehill is a lot better than that group he's been lumped with, Wentz will be too, he was asked to do a hell of a lot for a rookie. That will see him in good stead

    @londonbrown said:

    Tannehill is a lot better than that group he's been lumped with, Wentz will be too, he was asked to do a hell of a lot for a rookie. That will see him in good stead

    Wentz, maybe. Still early on him. Tannehill? Not so much. I think he is lumped right where he should be.

  • I definitely think Crow will report. If he thinks about it objectively, he's in a pretty good situation (not great, but good). He has a coach who definitely WANTS to run the ball, and the team hasn't drafted a RB in the past two years or really signed a free agent worth a damn. That should tell him that the franchise believes in him. Additionally, the Browns invested heavily in the OL and the defense, so it's possible we won't be getting our ass whipped as much early, which would allow us to TRY to run the ball in the second half of more games. And finally, this offense will NEED to run the ball in order to be successful. We don't have a stud QB or outstanding WR's, so we will have to rely on the running game to move the chains and score touchdowns. It's a pretty good formula for a guy who obviously wants to ink a long-term contract. If we're in football games, he's going to get the rock. On paper (which doesn't always mean much, but whatever) it looks like we have a very good OL, and also one that excels at run blocking. Bitonio, Zeitler, and Shon Coleman (probable starter at RT) are built for mauling. This could be an awesome opportunity for Crow to run through some nice holes.

    As a side note, I'm having some second thoughts about drafting Njoku. We could've gotten Dalvin Cook with that pick, and that would've been a nice jolt to our offense. Cook excels at running traps and counters, and Bitonio is ruthless on those plays.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I definitely think Crow will report. If he thinks about it objectively, he's in a pretty good situation (not great, but good). He has a coach who definitely WANTS to run the ball, and the team hasn't drafted a RB in the past two years or really signed a free agent worth a damn. That should tell him that the franchise believes in him. Additionally, the Browns invested heavily in the OL and the defense, so it's possible we won't be getting our ass whipped as much early, which would allow us to TRY to run the ball in the second half of more games. And finally, this offense will NEED to run the ball in order to be successful. We don't have a stud QB or outstanding WR's, so we will have to rely on the running game to move the chains and score touchdowns. It's a pretty good formula for a guy who obviously wants to ink a long-term contract. If we're in football games, he's going to get the rock. On paper (which doesn't always mean much, but whatever) it looks like we have a very good OL, and also one that excels at run blocking. Bitonio, Zeitler, and Shon Coleman (probable starter at RT) are built for mauling. This could be an awesome opportunity for Crow to run through some nice holes.

    As a side note, I'm having some second thoughts about drafting Njoku. We could've gotten Dalvin Cook with that pick, and that would've been a nice jolt to our offense. Cook excels at running traps and counters, and Bitonio is ruthless on those plays.

    MHO? Crow wanted to get paid, and failed. Unfortunately, Pryor was a UFA, so we couldn't tender him, or he'd still be on the Browns.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/isaiah-crowell-14768/

    Problem is, no other team in the NFL thought Crow was worth more than $2.7 million and a second round pick. If he lights it up, he may do better on the FA market next year. It's a one year "show us" deal. Even if he lights it up, I doubt the Browns are going to give him Le'veon money next year. Bell is getting $12 million franchise tagged.

    Regarding Njoku, the Browns wanted to get younger @ TE, I debate if letting Barnidge go was a wise decision. But if you ask me to pick between Njoku or Cook, I'm taking Njoku.

  • Who in the NFL has had more undeserved support from the franchise than Crow? No starting RB drafted since he arrived. That's three drafts now. Start performing.

  • Who in the NFL has had more undeserved support from the franchise than Crow? No starting RB drafted since he arrived. That's three drafts now. Start performing.

    @wargograw said:

    Who in the NFL has had more undeserved support from the franchise than Crow? No starting RB drafted since he arrived. That's three drafts now. Start performing.

    I think he's getting bad advice. Somehow these players think 900 yrds is the gold standard.