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  • Browns claimed Chris Barker OG from Patriots ....release Gabe Wright

  • Browns claimed Chris Barker OG from Patriots ....release Gabe Wright

    @darren15 said:

    Browns claimed Chris Barker OG from Patriots ....release Gabe Wright

    Not a surprise to release a DL-too many better rookies just added for all vets to stay.

  • Thanks for sharing that Darren. Mud also linked up this news in another thread yesterday. Here's a cut and paste my thoughts on it

    Sometimes that kind of guy (Chris Barker) can pan out. For example, John Greco was a 3rd rd pick for the Rams who only had 4 fill-in starts in the 3 years he was with St Louis. After being traded to Cleveland and starting 0 games the first year here (4th NFL season) - he started 14 games and played well in his 5th NFL season.

    I remember way back in 2002 when we signed a guy named Barry Stokes who got cut multiple times elsewhere. He came here at the right time and started for the only playoff team we had this side of 1999. Another example following the lyrics of "Love takes time..."

  • @darren15 said:

    Browns claimed Chris Barker OG from Patriots ....release Gabe Wright

    Not a surprise to release a DL-too many better rookies just added for all vets to stay.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Not a surprise to release a DL-too many better rookies just added for all vets to stay.

    I expect the Browns to be extremely active on the waiver wire to improve depth if nothing more, although I wouldn't be surprised to see a veteran WR picked up at some point.

    Mike

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Not a surprise to release a DL-too many better rookies just added for all vets to stay.

    I expect the Browns to be extremely active on the waiver wire to improve depth if nothing more, although I wouldn't be surprised to see a veteran WR picked up at some point.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I expect the Browns to be extremely active on the waiver wire to improve depth if nothing more, although I wouldn't be surprised to see a veteran WR picked up at some point.

    Mike

    And possibly another RT if one looks good enough to nab off the waiver wire or someone else's PS.

  • Oh... we be churnin' till the cows come home...

  • Without winning in the trenches, can't win consistently anywhere else.

  • Oh... we be churnin' till the cows come home...

    @tour2ma said:

    Oh... we be churnin' till the cows come home...

    Absolutely! And when those cows come home maybe it's time to get the complacent ones to mooooove over. Tour, did you just hi-jack my speel checkur?

  • Oh... we be churnin' till the cows come home...

    @tour2ma said:

    Oh... we be churnin' till the cows come home...

    churnin? ha..Have you ever had a off-season of more wet dreams of OLmen in your lifetime? 😉 Far to soon for me, but at sometime we should pass protect like it's Brady back there 😮 .Chris Barker seems to be the poor mans Jonathan Cooper? Coop-7th$ pick to Cards, to Pats. to us.to Dallas$...Barker--Nevada(mize well be Zona) to Mia. To Pats. To Us...Why do we deal with are own X-Hoodie Genius cuts.Our magic card dealer should know better?

  • Basically, this is a guy that the Patriots felt was not ever gonna be good enough to protect Tom Brady.

  • nothing wrong with taking a look. Maybe I'd make him a fullback........ 🙂

  • nothing wrong with taking a look. Maybe I'd make him a fullback........ 🙂

    @calfoxwc said:

    nothing wrong with taking a look. Maybe I'd make him a fullback........ 🙂

    I agree Cal. If Chris Barker was on the practice squad of the NFL team with the fewest vacancies to fill - exploring the inexpensive choice isn't such a bad idea.

    Like I said, we've had guys like Barry Stokes and John Greco come here to play much better than they did previously elsewhere. Aside from that, Hank Fraley was replaced in Philly's starting lineup by a younger guy 1-2 years before he became our solution to the freak accident that parked LeCharles Bentley's career forever. And what unfolded? We had a Center in his 30s that could still pull and get outside to lead a RB when necessary with a veteran savvy and experience level to make and communicate all the line calls while we went on to win 10 games in 2007. That didn't suck!

  • Without winning in the trenches, can't win consistently anywhere else.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Without winning in the trenches, can't win consistently anywhere else.

    I see where this HAS been the primary focus of this FO this offseason....given the FAs on the OL they signed, and the 3 picks in the draft along the DL.

  • @ghoolie said:

    Without threatening QB, WR, TE and RBs, no OL can win in the trenches. It is meaningless to pick up OL players.

    Arithmetic, Calsnots, SIMPLE arithmetic. NO FIVE MEN CAN BLOCK 9 MEN IN THE BOX. Until the Browns fix the problem with skilled players, all of this drafting and acquisition bullshit is just that, BULLSHIT.

    Without a good OL...no QB WR TE and RB can "threaten"...as they will be knocked on their asses before they get a chance to show their skills.

    The fact is, you need both...good OL, good skill players.

    Besides, in theory the Browns HAVE tried to do a fix on their skill players. They drafted a TE in round 1, a QB in round 2, got Britt as a FA. acquired a youngveteran QB...Osweiler. Hey...you never know about him...maybe the light bulb will turn on in his head. What else? (and you never know...maybe Peppers can do a little on offense. He should certainly help the kick return game)

    Have they done enough? Not in my opinion. I do expect them to keep trying.

    What additional moves THIS offseason do you think they should make? And, no, trading Joe Thomas is not on the board.

  • Browns claim OG.

    Browns claim Original Gangsta.

  • Basically, this is a guy that the Patriots felt was not ever gonna be good enough to protect Tom Brady.

    @orion said:

    Basically, this is a guy that the Patriots felt was not ever gonna be good enough to protect Tom Brady.

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

  • @orion said:

    Basically, this is a guy that the Patriots felt was not ever gonna be good enough to protect Tom Brady.

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

    @mudfly said:

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

    Can't tell if sarcastic or just flat out stupid...

  • @mudfly said:

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

    Can't tell if sarcastic or just flat out stupid...

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Can't tell if sarcastic or just flat out stupid...

    I dont know, because there is no point or football content to your comment.....

    So, I will stoop to your level and reply......"Cant always tell, but I often think you're both...."

    Your turn.....

  • It's revisionist history to say bill didn't think he could use Collins. Don't just make shit up.

    He had to decide who to pay, only so much money to go around. He chose hightower...

  • @orion said:

    Basically, this is a guy that the Patriots felt was not ever gonna be good enough to protect Tom Brady.

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

    @mudfly said:

    Ironic that the Pats keep taking our cast offs and getting good production from them.......wonder which team is making the right choices.....

    I am not sure how you are figuring this. What ex-Browns players have done all that with the Pats?

    Mingo? Sheard? I don't think these guys did any better at all with them than they did here. Who else? We don't know about Hawkins yet.

    Again...detail those ex-Browns who did all that great with NE. I am hard pressed to find them.

    Id say we won the Mingo decision.....but lost all the others.....

    The one thing Id point to, when signing a player cut by the Pats, is that they are MUCH deeper than we are.....so, their cast offs "should" be much better than our cast offs...on average, at least....

    Yet, even w/o talent or depth, we seem to keep cutting guys who get picked up and being productive for good teams.....while we continue to struggle to fill their positions.....weird eh?

    Yea, weird...because, as I said...I am hard pressed to find them. You made this statement....now produce your evidence.

    Note: Billy decided Collins couldnt help the Pats, yet he's probably our best player on Defense.....so how does that work?

    Because Belichick can be on occasion a venal person. He WILL cut guys that are better than the person he replaces them with. We all know this from the Kosar/Philcox fiasco.