Brantley's Assault Charge Dismissed

Tour2ma

I wonder if the Bears will fully guarantee Mitchie's contract...

Flugel

This FO knew Brantley was a terrific kid...

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:
I wonder if the Bears will fully guarantee Mitchie's contract...

According to this $0 is fully guaranteed. Can that be right?

https://overthecap.com/player/mitchell-trubisky/5586

hoorta

@texasag1969 said:

According to this $0 is fully guaranteed. Can that be right?

https://overthecap.com/player/mitchell-trubisky/5586

Nope- because his $19 million signing bonus is fully guaranteed. (when he signs his contract)

Tour2ma

@texasag1969 said:

According to this $0 is fully guaranteed. Can that be right?

https://overthecap.com/player/mitchell-trubisky/5586

Yes, it's correct-ish in the salary amounts, but before he signs the final, guaranteed amounts will not be known. Until then OTC shows zeros...

Peppers and Njoku are still in the same boat...

Westside Steve

So how much did this bulshit charge cost the man? Good for us but bad for him.

There should be repercussions but I'm sure there won't.

WSS

Flugel

@westside-steve said:

So how much did this bulshit charge cost the man? Good for us but bad for him.

There should be repercussions but I'm sure there won't.

WSS

You hate to see this happen to such a nice kid. Meanwhile Ben Rape'n has a victim inventory of 2 that America knows about; but he's the franchise QB of the Rooney family.

TopDawg31

@the-gipper said:
Then to back up the front 7....the LB corps could be pretty good: Collins, D. Davis, Kirksey, Schobert, Orchard. Though some have said they may only have 2 LBs out there a lot.

I've read some reports that say Orchard will move back to DE where he had 18.5 sacks his senior year.

gumby73

@westside-steve said:

So how much did this bulshit charge cost the man? Good for us but bad for him.

There should be repercussions but I'm sure there won't.

WSS

no team valued a DT as a 1st round pick. or at least none were taken away. pick #35(sounds right if was settled) Sea. took 1st DT in 2nd rd. M. McDowell-4 yr.total value close to 7M. with 3.1 signing bonus.....next DT picked #55. NYG D.Tomlinson (Brantley no later than here imo?)-4 yr. total value 4.572M. with 1.4 signing bonus.....next DT was our Ogunjobi-4yr.close to 3.9M with $981k signing bonus...........Brantley went #185-4yrs.2M,579,975 with signing bonus of $179,975/spotrac........at least a cool 3.3Mi$$ion in 4yrs. maybe (insert emoji of monopoly guy with pockets pulled out here)

hoorta

@gumby73 said:
no team valued a DT as a 1st round pick. or at least none were taken away. pick #35(sounds right if was settled) Sea. took 1st DT in 2nd rd. M. McDowell-4 yr.total value close to 7M. with 3.1 signing bonus.....next DT picked #55. NYG D.Tomlinson (Brantley no later than here imo?)-4 yr. total value 4.572M. with 1.4 signing bonus.....next DT was our Ogunjobi-4yr.close to 3.9M with $981k signing bonus...........Brantley went #185-4yrs.2M,579,975 with signing bonus of $179,975/spotrac........at least a cool 3.3Mi$$ion in 4yrs. maybe (insert emoji of monopoly guy with pockets pulled out here)

& Gumby- let's do a little reverse morality here. How many guys would show restraint not decking a drunk abusive chick in a bar if the guy behind him said- go ahead, I'll pay you $3.3 million to punch her lights out.?

ballpeen

3 mil sounds about right. He just needs to move on and play well.

If Brantly starts to play as I expect and far outperforms his contract, my hope is the Browns extend him after 2 seasons. Say 3 additional years to the 2 remainig, with a big signing bonus.

To motivate him even further, I'd tell him and his agent we will be open to extend after 2 seasons.

The Gipper

@roycerolls said:

Nope, the only moron comparing Garrett and Brantley is you.

One day your butthurt will subside, and you'll get over the fact that the Browns didn't draft cro magnon Mitch.

Are you this witless and ignorant as normal part of your personality? Or are you just playing at being witless and ignorant in order to make a witless and ignorant point that has absolutely nothing about the subject in question?

And your reading comprehension is nominal. I said that Garrett was evaluated for some of the same issues Brantley was: that he took plays off at times. That his "motor" didn't always run at high. You think I made these critiques up?

Booger McFarland said it.

NFL.com said it:

WEAKNESSES

Relies heavily on tremendous athleticism and explosion. Still learning how to string moves together and work with a pass-rush plan. At times, will take too long to activate counter moves when initial attack has stalled. Effort level appears closely tied to fatigue level at times. As pass rusher, uses hands reactively too often rather than proactively. Gets too cozy with blockers and will ride block for too long. Needs more urgency in disengagement. Would benefit with violent stick-and-move punch quickness into blockers. Has to work overtime to set a strong edge. Gets uprooted and widened out by quality run-blocking tackles. Never played in more than 70 percent of the defensive snaps in any of his three seasons at Texas A&M. Scouts are convinced he took plays off to protect his health this season.

Jon Gruden said it: http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-gruden-myles-garrett-not-best-player-in-draft-2017-4

Warren Sapp said it: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/23/sapp-says-myles-garrett-shouldnt-be-the-no-1-overall-pick/

Did they say these things because they too were butthurt?

BaconHound

Just hope we stole a talented player

Vagitron

@hoorta said:

Good research FO. get a 2nd round talent in the 6th round. As I opined earlier, it was some chick trying to extort a payday out of a guy headed to the NFL. Now just behave Caleb.

Soooooo why is this any different than what happened with Roethlisberger?

Tour2ma

1. Was not in a "bathroom".

I'll let someone else continue...

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

1. Was not in a "bathroom".

I'll let someone else continue...

I don't want to hijack this thread BUT Ben was never even charged. Yet he's vilified for it. I was happy you drafted this dunce to be honest, same with the bengals and mixon because then neither team would have a leg to stand on when people want to talk stupid.

LogicIsForSquares

@vagitron said:
I don't want to hijack this thread BUT Ben was never even charged. Yet he's vilified for it. I was happy you drafted this dunce to be honest, same with the bengals and mixon because then neither team would have a leg to stand on when people want to talk stupid.

Yeah they could no longer bring up that rapist who was getting pictures taken with the cops who were supposed to investigate the rape.

The Gipper

@vagitron said:
I don't want to hijack this thread BUT Ben was never even charged. Yet he's vilified for it. I was happy you drafted this dunce to be honest, same with the bengals and mixon because then neither team would have a leg to stand on when people want to talk stupid.

The difference is that the facts in this case were pretty clear...with witnesses attesting to them. In BR's case, not so much.

BR was accused....but the prosecution could not make a case because those were a he said she said situation.

Here...it was He and he and he and her and another he said against a She said.

hoorta

@vagitron said:
Soooooo why is this any different than what happened with Roethlisberger?

The difference is- Brantley didn't try to take a drunk chick into a bathroom, and as Gip said- there were plenty of witnesses (including a neutral one) who said the chick's story was BS.

@vagitron said:
I don't want to hijack this thread BUT Ben was never even charged. Yet he's vilified for it. I was happy you drafted this dunce to be honest, same with the bengals and mixon because then neither team would have a leg to stand on when people want to talk stupid.

I've really never had much to say about Ben's "incident". But to paint Brantley with the same brush as Mixon is nuts. Not enough evidence to charge the guy- as opposed to Mixon, who was on video decking the chick, charged with assault- and that's not the only violent incident attributed to Joe either.

Vagitron

@hoorta said:

The difference is- Brantley didn't try to take a drunk chick into a bathroom, and as Gip said- there were plenty of witnesses (including a neutral one) who said the chick's story was BS.

I've really never had much to say about Ben's "incident". But to paint Brantley with the same brush as Mixon is nuts. Not enough evidence to charge the guy- as opposed to Mixon, who was on video decking the chick, charged with assault- and that's not the only violent incident attributed to Joe either.

I'm only comparing Mixon and Brantley because of their charges. I agree Mixon and Brantley are completely different animals. Mixon is a walking/talking poster child for unhinged domestic violence. I can't believe he got drafted at all, let alone in the 2nd damn round.