The Core Group Has Increased
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This FO understands were not SB Bowl build yet. So give the aging vet a run with a winner a move on with your own new pieces. The TE position seems similar to Old School Browns? That's Njoku taking the O. Newsome role while Devalve a young Dave Logan? Odd comparison for now but Njoku & Dave Logan were both 6'4". Njoku 246. Logan 219lbs. Bigger,stronger,faster advantage Njoku..Now can Kessler or anybody start tossing it up like Sipe? No signs yet, but a target/with speed like Njoku should be a piece that makes a QB numbers better getting the ball downfield plus YAC..Tick Tock..
Actually.. Looking at Njoku.. I see more WR then I do TE.. I think that will be DeValves main role.. I think Njoku will transition to be a stud WR.. He looks to small to be a real TE in the NFL
Actually.. Looking at Njoku.. I see more WR then I do TE.. I think that will be DeValves main role.. I think Njoku will transition to be a stud WR.. He looks to small to be a real TE in the NFL
Looks can be deceiving?
- DeValve, Seth : 6-3 245
- Njoku, David ..: 6-4 246
I can see both motion, splitting out of 2 TE sets, but also tight in 2 TE sets... likely on the same end of the line. If Njoku has a separate role carved out for him, it could well be H-back.
I think our primary, in-line, blocking TE comes from:
- McNamara, Taylor : 6-5 251
- Telfer, Randall ......: 6-4 250
Don't know much about our UDFA TE tho... and to date I haven't been too impressed with our 2015 "reach".
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Folks,
There is now a bigger nucleus in place on both sides of the ball and on STs that we can get excited about. While growing pains from varying experience levels will be inevitable - our days of playing gridiron chess and attacking people exclusively with pawns are heading into the rear view mirror.
When we're looking for how Des Bryant and John Greco are going to get reps - we're a far cry from the bare cupboards previously haunting us. I'm starting to see why guys like Garrett, Peppers, Ogunjobi and others have responded to the question of "what can our opponents expect to see from you?" with "Come get some!" As refreshing as that sounds, Gregg Williams will be here to remind his guys that's too late/passive for sic em, sock em and sack em in his version of Darwin's Survival of the Fittest. When the average play doesn't last much longer than 3.5 seconds, getting there first has a very big say in who wins that play... That's also why experience helps guys play faster as we've noticed throughout Kirksey's progress and others.
It was even tough to decide where to cut off the core - but here's my version of our essential ingredients:
Jamie Collins
Christian Kirksey
Joe Haden (w/ his first legit pass rush?)
Jalapeno Peppers
Danny Shelton
Myles Garrett
Isaiah Crowell
Joe Thomas
Joel Bitonio
Kevin Zeitler
David Njoku
Zane Gonzalez
Britton Colquitt
It was even tough to decide where to cut off the core - but here's my version of our essential ingredients:
Jamie Collins
Christian Kirksey
Joe Haden (w/ his first legit pass rush?)
Jalapeno Peppers
Danny Shelton
Myles Garrett
Isaiah Crowell
Joe Thomas
Joel Bitonio
Kevin Zeitler
David Njoku
Zane Gonzalez
Britton Colquitt
While Im more optimistic than Ive been in some time, Id say your core group is on the optimistic side too....both too early and too late for a few....
Example....I notice no Colemans on the list(which I would say is correct)....BUT, for the same reasons they are not here, we cannot include 4 rookies as "core" players, when they haven't even played a snap yet.....who's to say they wont suck, get hurt or just be so so players?.....so, Id trim them until proven(ish).....
And with Haden and Thomas.....are they really cogs in our 5 year plan?......or just holding places for the future?.....Id trim them too....
And Crow?.....he's not a core player....he's on his way out right now......trim trim trim....
So, that leaves.....
Collins
Kirksey
Shelton
Bito
Zeitler.......
5 actual proven players....
Plus 4 rookie hopefuls.....
Plus 2 older guys with diminishing skills....
and a punter.....
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Tom... I think you know that I'm not here to piss in any ones wheaties... I can say I like some of the pieces that were added... I really like the Njoku pickup.. but I don't believe it justified making Barnidge expendable , just yet. My biggest disappointment with this team is its continued failure to get the QB and letting guys like Pryor and whomever walk...
I'm happy that Pryor left. His ego was too much to fit in with the building of a TEAM.
The loudmouth was seen fussing at Hue on the sidelines, fussing at other teammates...
He just wanted the money. Sure, he was willing to lay in on the line, but wasn't worth the trouble.
He still was not a polished wr, so he wanted to go. Good riddance.
I'm happy that Pryor left. His ego was too much to fit in with the building of a TEAM.
The loudmouth was seen fussing at Hue on the sidelines, fussing at other teammates...
He just wanted the money. Sure, he was willing to lay in on the line, but wasn't worth the trouble.
He still was not a polished wr, so he wanted to go. Good riddance.
Pryor's always been a "me me" guy, but it was weird how he left. You'd figure that he'd want to stay here and be the "big play guy" after Hue basically resurrected his career. While I'm not a Redskins fan, I'm going to keep an eye on how he does down there.
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I can't get excited for this team until they show Me something substantial in terms of wins..Im about near the end of My rope with this shit franchise..
I can't get excited for this team until they show Me something substantial in terms of wins..Im about near the end of My rope with this shit franchise..
Who cares?
Bye.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
the browns will be alright this year......alright as in 4 and 12.
kessler will do alright....until he get's plowed into the turf somewhere. glad we got osweiller. wink. wink.
FO and coaching staff will do alright ........until jimmah looks at his bottom line and the money flying into the air and blowing into the lake.
then it's discharge clip and reload.
vintage....since 1989.
oh the money wasted on drugs alcohol and the browns.......i coulda been somebody. hee hee.
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It was even tough to decide where to cut off the core - but here's my version of our essential ingredients:
Jamie Collins
Christian Kirksey
Joe Haden (w/ his first legit pass rush?)
Jalapeno Peppers
Danny Shelton
Myles Garrett
Isaiah Crowell
Joe Thomas
Joel Bitonio
Kevin Zeitler
David Njoku
Zane Gonzalez
Britton Colquitt
While Im more optimistic than Ive been in some time, Id say your core group is on the optimistic side too....both too early and too late for a few....
Example....I notice no Colemans on the list(which I would say is correct)....BUT, for the same reasons they are not here, we cannot include 4 rookies as "core" players, when they haven't even played a snap yet.....who's to say they wont suck, get hurt or just be so so players?.....so, Id trim them until proven(ish).....
And with Haden and Thomas.....are they really cogs in our 5 year plan?......or just holding places for the future?.....Id trim them too....
And Crow?.....he's not a core player....he's on his way out right now......trim trim trim....
So, that leaves.....
Collins
Kirksey
Shelton
Bito
Zeitler.......
5 actual proven players....
Plus 4 rookie hopefuls.....
Plus 2 older guys with diminishing skills....
and a punter.....
BUT, for the same reasons they are not here, we cannot include 4 rookies as "core" players, when they haven't even played a snap yet.....who's to say they wont suck, get hurt or just be so so players?.....so, Id trim them until proven(ish).....
And with Haden and Thomas.....are they really cogs in our 5 year plan?......or just holding places for the future?.....Id trim them too....
You know great OTs can play into their mid-30's at a high level, so it is not out of the question that Joe can play another 5 years. As healthy as he's been thru his career, I like his chances of joining that group... and then hopefully our coaching staff...
Point taken on the rookies, but odds are at least two will emerge as "core".
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@ghoolie said:
That is one of the problems. It isn't just the shit franchise, it is the asshole attitude that the Browns can do no wrong, and fans should be happier than pigs in shit. On Monday we cheer a player, then when we won't pay him or he leaves for more money, on Tuesday we say, "Fuck him, who needs him?"
The Browns don't need Nickers? Yeah, fuck Nickers. HEY NICKERS............... FUCK YOU, MAN...............who cares that you love the Browns and have spent countless hours supporting and spending money on the team. Hey, it's no sweat if guys like you and me are at the end of the rope with this shit franchise......................
FUCK NICKERS, FUCK GHOOLIE.................. Who needs us? I mean shit, the Browns have TONE of fans just beating down the door to buy their worthless shit tickets..................... Who cares that 99% of the NFL watching public can't name 2 players on this shit team? Who cares that that 50% of the football fans in NE Ohio are Steeler fans?
I bet you won't find many Browns fans in W Penna.
Nickers sentiment is more important the the cheer leading of homers. When long time fans fade away, it won't be long until the NFL sees the demographics and realizes that Cleveland is no longer a viable football city. And make no mistake, one more fucking horrible season, you will see a lot of empty seats, and I promise you, the conversations Haslam has already entertained about selling the Browns and letting them be moved, will be revisited.
You jackoffs think that there is something special about being a Browns fan. You believe that the Browns are one of the class acts in the NFL. Nobody else thinks this. The Cleveland Browns are the worst franchise in the NFL.
And really, how fucking idiotic can a person be to be enthusiastic about a team whose FO says "This Year Is Not About Winning".
Fucking jackoffs.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
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This FO understands were not SB Bowl build yet. So give the aging vet a run with a winner a move on with your own new pieces. The TE position seems similar to Old School Browns? That's Njoku taking the O. Newsome role while Devalve a young Dave Logan? Odd comparison for now but Njoku & Dave Logan were both 6'4". Njoku 246. Logan 219lbs. Bigger,stronger,faster advantage Njoku..Now can Kessler or anybody start tossing it up like Sipe? No signs yet, but a target/with speed like Njoku should be a piece that makes a QB numbers better getting the ball downfield plus YAC..Tick Tock..
Actually.. Looking at Njoku.. I see more WR then I do TE.. I think that will be DeValves main role.. I think Njoku will transition to be a stud WR.. He looks to small to be a real TE in the NFL
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@ghoolie said:
That is one of the problems. It isn't just the shit franchise, it is the asshole attitude that the Browns can do no wrong, and fans should be happier than pigs in shit. On Monday we cheer a player, then when we won't pay him or he leaves for more money, on Tuesday we say, "Fuck him, who needs him?"
The Browns don't need Nickers? Yeah, fuck Nickers. HEY NICKERS............... FUCK YOU, MAN...............who cares that you love the Browns and have spent countless hours supporting and spending money on the team. Hey, it's no sweat if guys like you and me are at the end of the rope with this shit franchise......................
FUCK NICKERS, FUCK GHOOLIE.................. Who needs us? I mean shit, the Browns have TONE of fans just beating down the door to buy their worthless shit tickets..................... Who cares that 99% of the NFL watching public can't name 2 players on this shit team? Who cares that that 50% of the football fans in NE Ohio are Steeler fans?
I bet you won't find many Browns fans in W Penna.
Nickers sentiment is more important the the cheer leading of homers. When long time fans fade away, it won't be long until the NFL sees the demographics and realizes that Cleveland is no longer a viable football city. And make no mistake, one more fucking horrible season, you will see a lot of empty seats, and I promise you, the conversations Haslam has already entertained about selling the Browns and letting them be moved, will be revisited.
You jackoffs think that there is something special about being a Browns fan. You believe that the Browns are one of the class acts in the NFL. Nobody else thinks this. The Cleveland Browns are the worst franchise in the NFL.
And really, how fucking idiotic can a person be to be enthusiastic about a team whose FO says "This Year Is Not About Winning".
Fucking jackoffs.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
And your the bitch Millenia Cunt who whines more than anyone.. take in your own inventory, Dexter...
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And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
And your the bitch Millenia Cunt who whines more than anyone.. take in your own inventory, Dexter...
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Who cares?
Bye.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Who cares?
Bye.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
Well, the team can't move until 2020, so....
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@ghoolie said:
That is one of the problems. It isn't just the shit franchise, it is the asshole attitude that the Browns can do no wrong, and fans should be happier than pigs in shit. On Monday we cheer a player, then when we won't pay him or he leaves for more money, on Tuesday we say, "Fuck him, who needs him?"
The Browns don't need Nickers? Yeah, fuck Nickers. HEY NICKERS............... FUCK YOU, MAN...............who cares that you love the Browns and have spent countless hours supporting and spending money on the team. Hey, it's no sweat if guys like you and me are at the end of the rope with this shit franchise......................
FUCK NICKERS, FUCK GHOOLIE.................. Who needs us? I mean shit, the Browns have TONE of fans just beating down the door to buy their worthless shit tickets..................... Who cares that 99% of the NFL watching public can't name 2 players on this shit team? Who cares that that 50% of the football fans in NE Ohio are Steeler fans?
I bet you won't find many Browns fans in W Penna.
Nickers sentiment is more important the the cheer leading of homers. When long time fans fade away, it won't be long until the NFL sees the demographics and realizes that Cleveland is no longer a viable football city. And make no mistake, one more fucking horrible season, you will see a lot of empty seats, and I promise you, the conversations Haslam has already entertained about selling the Browns and letting them be moved, will be revisited.
You jackoffs think that there is something special about being a Browns fan. You believe that the Browns are one of the class acts in the NFL. Nobody else thinks this. The Cleveland Browns are the worst franchise in the NFL.
And really, how fucking idiotic can a person be to be enthusiastic about a team whose FO says "This Year Is Not About Winning".
Fucking jackoffs.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
I think the funniest part about what you're saying is that the "older" generation scream and yell this is what "damn millennials snowflakes" are all about.
They just wanna be told it's okay and do anything for attention which leads to always go, "well wtf do you think you're doing?" Good times, those double-standards.
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Who cares?
Bye.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats...
Your post got me thinking tho... as much as wins are a factor, how much reselling that leads to the rash of opponent jerseys in "our house" is attributable to the PSL phenomenon?
Big, up front investments tend to create hangers on who minimize the annual cost by reselling game tix if not entire season packages. Not to mention the ease of reselling today. Once upon a time your simply did not renew your "season tix", but knew you could get back in if the team showed improvement.
If there are annual stats on PSL turnover and/or season package opt-out rates, then I'd like to see them. I'm willing to bet the stats for this coming year show a lower drop-out rate.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats...
Your post got me thinking tho... as much as wins are a factor, how much reselling that leads to the rash of opponent jerseys in "our house" is attributable to the PSL phenomenon?
Big, up front investments tend to create hangers on who minimize the annual cost by reselling game tix if not entire season packages. Not to mention the ease of reselling today. Once upon a time your simply did not renew your "season tix", but knew you could get back in if the team showed improvement.
If there are annual stats on PSL turnover and/or season package opt-out rates, then I'd like to see them. I'm willing to bet the stats for this coming year show a lower drop-out rate.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats....
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Hopefully the new CAVS and Indians revival will rebuild some generational interest in Cleveland, the downtown sure looks better than in the late Ol' Muni days.
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That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats....
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Hopefully the new CAVS and Indians revival will rebuild some generational interest in Cleveland, the downtown sure looks better than in the late Ol' Muni days.
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
Section 17, 1100 row between home and first closer to first and just under the overhang, didn't get wet during showers.
Belonged to a baseball club from a bar in Girard, OH about 120 members we'd have from 5 to 40+ guys caravan up for beer and baseball....great times back then.
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@ghoolie said:
By calling Nickers grandpa you imply that he fucked your Grandmother. I told him to use a rubber when fucking dumb hillbillies, but he wouldn't listen. Now, he has you.............rotting, stinking dog shit stuck to the bottom of his shoes.
:lol:
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