speakin of Justin Gilbert... is suspended for the 1st four games...
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41 minutes ago... athletic as all get out, no mind to match, no love for the game...
http://nfltraderumors.co/former-browns-cb-justin-gilbert-suspended-4-games/
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But a great pick
But a great pick
so much for all those so-called experts getting him wrong also..my day is complete..your still collecting money owed,get suspended four games, in a game you have not played since being cut in Feb..Get your Millions back America..(or a 6th rounder in 18)
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How could Farmer have been so stupid as to take two substance impaired choices in the first round in the same year?
OH, ......................wait. It was Farmer Brown.
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Not our problem... but since we are talking about "farming"...
Oregon Winemakers Crossover Into Cannabis Industry
JACKSONVILLE, OR — While winemaking in Oregon has been steadily on the rise for past three decades, legalized cannabis growing is still a relatively new thing in the state. But as cannabis production becomes more widely recognized as a legitimate business venture, some winemakers have taken the initiative to combine the pair — or switch industries altogether.
Associated Press reporter Gillian Flaccus on Thursday shared a story about the cannabis crop crossover, and how winemakers along the Oregon-California border are capitalizing on the growing cannabis industry.
https://patch.com/oregon/portland/oregon-winemakers-crossover-cannabis-industry -
I liked the pick at the time, tbh - I thought it was a bit high but still thought he could be a decent player.
Nope.
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How could Farmer have been so stupid as to take two substance impaired choices in the first round in the same year?
OH, ......................wait. It was Farmer Brown.
How could Farmer have been so stupid as to take two substance impaired choices in the first round in the same year?
OH, ......................wait. It was Farmer Brown.
BTW, the Farmer Brown distillery is in Le Claire Iowa. I immediately recognized the town as also being home to one of the American Pickers Stores. Gip took me to their other one in Nashville when we went down for the Titans game. I found the wine store next door far more interesting.
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How could Farmer have been so stupid as to take two substance impaired choices in the first round in the same year?
OH, ......................wait. It was Farmer Brown.
BTW, the Farmer Brown distillery is in Le Claire Iowa. I immediately recognized the town as also being home to one of the American Pickers Stores. Gip took me to their other one in Nashville when we went down for the Titans game. I found the wine store next door far more interesting.
BTW, the Farmer Brown distillery is in Le Claire Iowa. I immediately recognized the town as also being home to one of the American Pickers Stores. Gip took me to their other one in Nashville when we went down for the Titans game. I found the wine store next door far more interesting.
Of course you did Larry.
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I liked the pick at the time, tbh - I thought it was a bit high but still thought he could be a decent player.
Nope.
I liked the pick at the time, tbh - I thought it was a bit high but still thought he could be a decent player.
Nope.
He was the highest rated CB on the "draft experts" boards because he checked all the boxes physically. Unfortunately Gilbert didn't have the drive to be a pro. 2014 could've been a great class if the first round guys were willing to work as hard as Cody Kessler.
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I liked the pick at the time, tbh - I thought it was a bit high but still thought he could be a decent player.
Nope.
He was the highest rated CB on the "draft experts" boards because he checked all the boxes physically. Unfortunately Gilbert didn't have the drive to be a pro. 2014 could've been a great class if the first round guys were willing to work as hard as Cody Kessler.
He was the highest rated CB on the "draft experts" boards because he checked all the boxes physically. Unfortunately Gilbert didn't have the drive to be a pro. 2014 could've been a great class if the first round guys were willing to work as hard as Cody Kessler.
When I think of a professional, I think of a barometer setter with work ethic like a Jerry Rice. Walter Payton was said to have had a similar brutal off season conditioning program. When I listen to former TN Titans/Houston Oilers such as Blaine Bishop, Frank Wycheck and previous radio guests like Bruce Matthews and Brad Hopkins - they all praised the "Who's gonna outwork me" mentality Eddie George added to that franchise. As much as I hated Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, it sure seemed like nobody out-prepared them. Troy Aikman would echo similar sentiments about Michael Irvin. You either LOVE the gift or you park it right next to Josh Gordon in Don't Give a Shit Lane...
When I see guys like Justin Gilbert or Josh Gordon, their biggest enemy is the hollow inner chest. Football always came so easy the challenge was an absolute bore. Okay, so what happens with guys that don't appreciate this gift when adversity shows up? Football never gets prioritized and welcome to Park Place (not the good one). I got fooled by both kids. There's still a couple people crying "poor Josh" - but even with his career backed all the way into the corner of "you just have to pass every piss test now" - there's still countless excuses why football isn't top priority. This dates all the way back to high school when he scared off all interest from major DI-A programs (but the college football version of Sodom and Gomorrah) at Baylor. And he even got kicked off that team TWICE before he showed up to the NFL's Supplemental Draft assuring everyone he learned his lesson. I let him fool me twice after that (as someone always willing to give someone a second chance) until I realized I wasn't looking at a guy that will ever prioritize football. The proof remained in the company he kept choosing. "Yeah Flugel, when he was only going about 15 miles over the speed limit - you DO understand that big bag of weed in the car belonged to his friend that fessed up to it right?" Every bit as much as I believe in UFO's with green pilots and passengers. Lost in all distraction was I never saw the "professional" I wanted to see from someone with that kind of elite skill-set.
I don't have any more sympathy for these kinds of guys. My high school coach used to say we'll always suit up 60; but many of our most successful teams and players were the ones that were willing to pay the price and sacrifice...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
I loved that pick.....and the trade back.....I admit it.....
Live and learn.....Gilbert has to be one of my biggest disappointments..... and is a massive waste of talent......
With the right mind set.....he could have been great
I loved that pick.....and the trade back.....I admit it.....
Live and learn.....Gilbert has to be one of my biggest disappointments..... and is a massive waste of talent......
With the right mind set.....he could have been great
Well said. I liked how that shook out at first too Mud. After watching highlights of a defensive play maker - I saw some exciting highlights of an elite return man (also a big need). I can still hear Mayock saying, "At the very least, Cleveland landed the very best return specialist of this draft class."
I had no idea his college coaches found him such a pain in the ass to deal with; so he wasn't a tough guy for me to get excited about on draft day. I did read about his reluctance to tackle people at times but I thought that was something that could be a work in progress at the very least.
All that said, I'm not the one paid to understand the background that needed to be researched. Neither are you so don't beat yourself up about it. It's possible the background was researched and farmer blew off what his scouts had to say or it wasn't researched. Whatever the case may be, when you're kicking a guy like Khalil Mack off your doorstep at #4 with Gilbert as your plan at the spot you trade back to - you HAVE to know what you're adding (on and off the field).
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If we're doing True Confessions (anyone else remember that magazine?)...
While I did not know him at the time of the draft, I did buy in pretty quickly. Lot of natural talent there...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.
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4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.
I was thinking that too.....but, If the case....it's weird that he wants it enough to cheat, but not enough to try.....
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221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA
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221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA
221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA
Au contraire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_221_in_South_Carolina
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