The Core Group Has Increased
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Who cares?
Bye.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
Well, the team can't move until 2020, so....
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@ghoolie said:
That is one of the problems. It isn't just the shit franchise, it is the asshole attitude that the Browns can do no wrong, and fans should be happier than pigs in shit. On Monday we cheer a player, then when we won't pay him or he leaves for more money, on Tuesday we say, "Fuck him, who needs him?"
The Browns don't need Nickers? Yeah, fuck Nickers. HEY NICKERS............... FUCK YOU, MAN...............who cares that you love the Browns and have spent countless hours supporting and spending money on the team. Hey, it's no sweat if guys like you and me are at the end of the rope with this shit franchise......................
FUCK NICKERS, FUCK GHOOLIE.................. Who needs us? I mean shit, the Browns have TONE of fans just beating down the door to buy their worthless shit tickets..................... Who cares that 99% of the NFL watching public can't name 2 players on this shit team? Who cares that that 50% of the football fans in NE Ohio are Steeler fans?
I bet you won't find many Browns fans in W Penna.
Nickers sentiment is more important the the cheer leading of homers. When long time fans fade away, it won't be long until the NFL sees the demographics and realizes that Cleveland is no longer a viable football city. And make no mistake, one more fucking horrible season, you will see a lot of empty seats, and I promise you, the conversations Haslam has already entertained about selling the Browns and letting them be moved, will be revisited.
You jackoffs think that there is something special about being a Browns fan. You believe that the Browns are one of the class acts in the NFL. Nobody else thinks this. The Cleveland Browns are the worst franchise in the NFL.
And really, how fucking idiotic can a person be to be enthusiastic about a team whose FO says "This Year Is Not About Winning".
Fucking jackoffs.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
And you and Nickers think there's something special about you being a Browns fan. There's a million jackoffs just like you.
Nobody gives a shit if you, or Nickers, or me, or anyone here decides they've had enough. You've reached the end of your rope? Then let go. If not, shut up about it.
When a person is constantly complaining that they're gonna quit, all they want is attention. They want people to coddle them and say "there there, we love you, it'll all get better". They want to be begged to stay. They are insecure pusshats.
I guarantee one thing, nobody here is going to beg anyone to stay. You don't like the Browns anymore? See ya.
I think the funniest part about what you're saying is that the "older" generation scream and yell this is what "damn millennials snowflakes" are all about.
They just wanna be told it's okay and do anything for attention which leads to always go, "well wtf do you think you're doing?" Good times, those double-standards.
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Who cares?
Bye.
Problem is there's a LOT of 'Bye'.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
It used to be said that the Browns had some of the most knowledgeable fans in the league. Well, perhaps it's still true. Perhaps they're Sooo knowledgeable that they can THINK of better things to do with their money and time...rather than wasting it all going to a Browns game. I mean, YOU KNOW they're not gonna win. You're not DRAWN to the games to watch your HOF left tackle (as good and likeable as he is).
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
It's not quite as noticeable on a message board as these are the hard core, die hard, true fans of the team. But there doesn't seem to be 70,000 of us to fill a stadium. You're gonna need fans that want to be entertained by football to fill the rest of the seats....and Joe Thomas is just not that entertaining down on the field.
The last time the Browns visited Foxborough stadium, I was wearing my white #32 jersey on my way to my seat.....and I saw a guy in the distance looking at me and heard him saying to his buddy, "That's what they're still clinging to." - We've got nothing but ancient history.
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats...
Your post got me thinking tho... as much as wins are a factor, how much reselling that leads to the rash of opponent jerseys in "our house" is attributable to the PSL phenomenon?
Big, up front investments tend to create hangers on who minimize the annual cost by reselling game tix if not entire season packages. Not to mention the ease of reselling today. Once upon a time your simply did not renew your "season tix", but knew you could get back in if the team showed improvement.
If there are annual stats on PSL turnover and/or season package opt-out rates, then I'd like to see them. I'm willing to bet the stats for this coming year show a lower drop-out rate.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
As the season(s) wear on, more and more of our home games turn into home games for the ROAD teams. It's shameful to look out into our stadium and see SOOooo many jerseys of the opponent. Doesn't matter if it's a division rival or an NFC rarity visit, it's THEIR jerseys taking control.
Apathy. It sets in no matter HOW good and popular your team once was.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats...
Your post got me thinking tho... as much as wins are a factor, how much reselling that leads to the rash of opponent jerseys in "our house" is attributable to the PSL phenomenon?
Big, up front investments tend to create hangers on who minimize the annual cost by reselling game tix if not entire season packages. Not to mention the ease of reselling today. Once upon a time your simply did not renew your "season tix", but knew you could get back in if the team showed improvement.
If there are annual stats on PSL turnover and/or season package opt-out rates, then I'd like to see them. I'm willing to bet the stats for this coming year show a lower drop-out rate.
That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats....
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Hopefully the new CAVS and Indians revival will rebuild some generational interest in Cleveland, the downtown sure looks better than in the late Ol' Muni days.
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That wins put asses in seats is nothing new... the Indians are living proof of that.
Many was the game where 5,000 at a Tribe game looked "lost" in the cavernous structure that was old Muni...
Many was the day in the 90's when ownership wished the Jake had those extra 40,000 seats....
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Hopefully the new CAVS and Indians revival will rebuild some generational interest in Cleveland, the downtown sure looks better than in the late Ol' Muni days.
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Oh Geezzzz I remember those days from 75,000 sellouts to next to nothing days later. Saw 9 consecutive home openers in the late 1970s and early 1980s before the joint closed.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
Ahhhhh... then we were both there for Charlie Spikes' Indians' debut...
I was upper deck, past 3rd-base and maybe halfway between 3rd and the left-field foul-pole. Cold day... in the shade, but determined to drink beers... and did.
Section 17, 1100 row between home and first closer to first and just under the overhang, didn't get wet during showers.
Belonged to a baseball club from a bar in Girard, OH about 120 members we'd have from 5 to 40+ guys caravan up for beer and baseball....great times back then.
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@ghoolie said:
By calling Nickers grandpa you imply that he fucked your Grandmother. I told him to use a rubber when fucking dumb hillbillies, but he wouldn't listen. Now, he has you.............rotting, stinking dog shit stuck to the bottom of his shoes.
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@ghoolie said:
By calling Nickers grandpa you imply that he fucked your Grandmother. I told him to use a rubber when fucking dumb hillbillies, but he wouldn't listen. Now, he has you.............rotting, stinking dog shit stuck to the bottom of his shoes.
You are really struggling to be semi-relevant nowadays.
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@ghoolie said:
Yeah......I am......Jeez, that was a stinging comeback.
Didn't need to be. It was just a normal observation.
I don't need to post slightly quippy, overly inflammatory comebacks to everything anyone says to me because I'm not the one with an ego problem.
And I think you're starting to find that everyone else is beginning to realize that too, so you're ramping up your garbage to try and rile them up.
Do what you gotta do, man.
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@ghoolie said:
Yeah......I am......Jeez, that was a stinging comeback.
Didn't need to be. It was just a normal observation.
I don't need to post slightly quippy, overly inflammatory comebacks to everything anyone says to me because I'm not the one with an ego problem.
And I think you're starting to find that everyone else is beginning to realize that too, so you're ramping up your garbage to try and rile them up.
Do what you gotta do, man.
Didn't need to be. It was just a normal observation.
I don't need to post slightly quippy, overly inflammatory comebacks to everything anyone says to me because I'm not the one with an ego problem.
And I think you're starting to find that everyone else is beginning to realize that too, so you're ramping up your garbage to try and rile them up.
Do what you gotta do, man.
Take more meth next time and off yourself... You're not that special...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
@ghoolie said:
By calling Nickers grandpa you imply that he fucked your Grandmother. I told him to use a rubber when fucking dumb hillbillies, but he wouldn't listen. Now, he has you.............rotting, stinking dog shit stuck to the bottom of his shoes.
You are really struggling to be semi-relevant nowadays.
You are really struggling to be semi-relevant nowadays.
Damn... you were in a generous mood last nite.
Where's the original edition TC when we need him?
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Didn't need to be. It was just a normal observation.
I don't need to post slightly quippy, overly inflammatory comebacks to everything anyone says to me because I'm not the one with an ego problem.
And I think you're starting to find that everyone else is beginning to realize that too, so you're ramping up your garbage to try and rile them up.
Do what you gotta do, man.
Take more meth next time and off yourself... You're not that special...
Take more meth next time and off yourself... You're not that special...
I would again just like to thank the mods here for allowing such upstanding football conversation and people to be allowed on this forum. These types of posts surely bring the quality of this place up!
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Didn't need to be. It was just a normal observation.
I don't need to post slightly quippy, overly inflammatory comebacks to everything anyone says to me because I'm not the one with an ego problem.
And I think you're starting to find that everyone else is beginning to realize that too, so you're ramping up your garbage to try and rile them up.
Do what you gotta do, man.
Take more meth next time and off yourself... You're not that special...
Take more meth next time and off yourself... You're not that special...
No...not that special, you're right. I'm just a pretty normal guy with average comprehension skills, a decent grasp on the English language and no flabby bitch tits.
What's your excuse?
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
No...not that special, you're right. I'm just a pretty normal guy with average comprehension skills, a decent grasp on the English language and no flabby bitch tits.
What's your excuse?
I don't have or need any excuse.. I don't owe you goddamn Millenials a goddamn thing.. Now.. back to football..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
No...not that special, you're right. I'm just a pretty normal guy with average comprehension skills, a decent grasp on the English language and no flabby bitch tits.
What's your excuse?
I don't have or need any excuse.. I don't owe you goddamn Millenials a goddamn thing.. Now.. back to football..
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No...not that special, you're right. I'm just a pretty normal guy with average comprehension skills, a decent grasp on the English language and no flabby bitch tits.
What's your excuse?
I don't have or need any excuse.. I don't owe you goddamn Millenials a goddamn thing.. Now.. back to football..
I don't have or need any excuse.. I don't owe you goddamn Millenials a goddamn thing.. Now.. back to football..
Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?
Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"?
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
I would again just like to thank the mods here for allowing such upstanding football conversation and people to be allowed on this forum. These types of posts surely bring the quality of this place up!
so one should be banned for speaking their opinion?
ANTIFA!!! you resistor you..... i have an old lamp you can smash if you want.
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I would again just like to thank the mods here for allowing such upstanding football conversation and people to be allowed on this forum. These types of posts surely bring the quality of this place up!
so one should be banned for speaking their opinion?
ANTIFA!!! you resistor you..... i have an old lamp you can smash if you want.
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Maybe a bitching thread or forum would be helpful here? Eh?
Kind of like a Family Feud "Millenials vs Boomers"?
Let's just settle this once and for all. We fucked your mothers and now we're fucking you. You're welcome. Sincerely, Boomers.
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