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speakin of Justin Gilbert... is suspended for the 1st four games...

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  • If we're doing True Confessions (anyone else remember that magazine?)...

    While I did not know him at the time of the draft, I did buy in pretty quickly. Lot of natural talent there...

  • Any word on "why" he was suspended??......article says he was suspended, but doesnt say why.....(great reporting there)....

  • 4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

  • 4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

    @topdawg31 said:

    4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

    I was thinking that too.....but, If the case....it's weird that he wants it enough to cheat, but not enough to try.....

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  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

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    221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA

    @topdawg31 said:

    221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA

    Au contraire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_221_in_South_Carolina

  • @topdawg31 said:

    221 is fitting, exists nowhere in the USA

    Au contraire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_221_in_South_Carolina

    @texasag1969 said:

    as in area code. US 221 the road to nowhere

  • 221.....most commonly found right smack in the middle of 220 and 222.....

  • 4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

    @topdawg31 said:

    4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

    PEDs?....If so, the dumbass oughta get his money back!!! LOL

    Mike

  • @roycerolls said:

    He was the highest rated CB on the "draft experts" boards because he checked all the boxes physically. Unfortunately Gilbert didn't have the drive to be a pro. 2014 could've been a great class if the first round guys were willing to work as hard as Cody Kessler.

    When I think of a professional, I think of a barometer setter with work ethic like a Jerry Rice. Walter Payton was said to have had a similar brutal off season conditioning program. When I listen to former TN Titans/Houston Oilers such as Blaine Bishop, Frank Wycheck and previous radio guests like Bruce Matthews and Brad Hopkins - they all praised the "Who's gonna outwork me" mentality Eddie George added to that franchise. As much as I hated Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, it sure seemed like nobody out-prepared them. Troy Aikman would echo similar sentiments about Michael Irvin. You either LOVE the gift or you park it right next to Josh Gordon in Don't Give a Shit Lane...

    When I see guys like Justin Gilbert or Josh Gordon, their biggest enemy is the hollow inner chest. Football always came so easy the challenge was an absolute bore. Okay, so what happens with guys that don't appreciate this gift when adversity shows up? Football never gets prioritized and welcome to Park Place (not the good one). I got fooled by both kids. There's still a couple people crying "poor Josh" - but even with his career backed all the way into the corner of "you just have to pass every piss test now" - there's still countless excuses why football isn't top priority. This dates all the way back to high school when he scared off all interest from major DI-A programs (but the college football version of Sodom and Gomorrah) at Baylor. And he even got kicked off that team TWICE before he showed up to the NFL's Supplemental Draft assuring everyone he learned his lesson. I let him fool me twice after that (as someone always willing to give someone a second chance) until I realized I wasn't looking at a guy that will ever prioritize football. The proof remained in the company he kept choosing. "Yeah Flugel, when he was only going about 15 miles over the speed limit - you DO understand that big bag of weed in the car belonged to his friend that fessed up to it right?" Every bit as much as I believe in UFO's with green pilots and passengers. Lost in all distraction was I never saw the "professional" I wanted to see from someone with that kind of elite skill-set.

    I don't have any more sympathy for these kinds of guys. My high school coach used to say we'll always suit up 60; but many of our most successful teams and players were the ones that were willing to pay the price and sacrifice...

    @flugel said:

    When I think of a professional, I think of a barometer setter with work ethic like a Jerry Rice. Walter Payton was said to have had a similar brutal off season conditioning program. When I listen to former TN Titans/Houston Oilers such as Blaine Bishop, Frank Wycheck and previous radio guests like Bruce Matthews and Brad Hopkins - they all praised the "Who's gonna outwork me" mentality Eddie George added to that franchise. As much as I hated Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, it sure seemed like nobody out-prepared them. Troy Aikman would echo similar sentiments about Michael Irvin. You either LOVE the gift or you park it right next to Josh Gordon in Don't Give a Shit Lane...

    When I see guys like Justin Gilbert or Josh Gordon, their biggest enemy is the hollow inner chest. Football always came so easy the challenge was an absolute bore. Okay, so what happens with guys that don't appreciate this gift when adversity shows up? Football never gets prioritized and welcome to Park Place (not the good one). I got fooled by both kids. There's still a couple people crying "poor Josh" - but even with his career backed all the way into the corner of "you just have to pass every piss test now" - there's still countless excuses why football isn't top priority. This dates all the way back to high school when he scared off all interest from major DI-A programs (but the college football version of Sodom and Gomorrah) at Baylor. And he even got kicked off that team TWICE before he showed up to the NFL's Supplemental Draft assuring everyone he learned his lesson. I let him fool me twice after that (as someone always willing to give someone a second chance) until I realized I wasn't looking at a guy that will ever prioritize football. The proof remained in the company he kept choosing. "Yeah Flugel, when he was only going about 15 miles over the speed limit - you DO understand that big bag of weed in the car belonged to his friend that fessed up to it right?" Every bit as much as I believe in UFO's with green pilots and passengers. Lost in all distraction was I never saw the "professional" I wanted to see from someone with that kind of elite skill-set.

    I don't have any more sympathy for these kinds of guys. My high school coach used to say we'll always suit up 60; but many of our most successful teams and players were the ones that were willing to pay the price and sacrifice...

    Well said Tom! The only way I differ is that, even though he was a Raven, I was a HUGE Ed Reed Fan.

    Mike

  • @topdawg31 said:

    4 games would indicate he was already in the program. My guess would be PED's.

    I was thinking that too.....but, If the case....it's weird that he wants it enough to cheat, but not enough to try.....

    @mudfly said:

    I was thinking that too.....but, If the case....it's weird that he wants it enough to cheat, but not enough to try.....

    I dunno... "taking a shortcut" seems consistent with "low effort" to me...

  • If we're doing True Confessions (anyone else remember that magazine?)...

    While I did not know him at the time of the draft, I did buy in pretty quickly. Lot of natural talent there...

    @tour2ma said:

    If we're doing True Confessions (anyone else remember that magazine?)...

    While I did not know him at the time of the draft, I did buy in pretty quickly. Lot of natural talent there...

    True Confessions was a movie starring DeNiro and Duvall. One of my best friends from high school was an extra in it. He had a whole scene where you can see him in the close background sitting right in the middle between DeNiro and Duvall. In this trailer you can see him at about the 1:45 mark. I could not pull that scene all by itself:

  • Oh gosh.

  • @mudfly said:

    I was thinking that too.....but, If the case....it's weird that he wants it enough to cheat, but not enough to try.....

    I dunno... "taking a shortcut" seems consistent with "low effort" to me...

    @tour2ma said:

    I dunno... "taking a shortcut" seems consistent with "low effort" to me...

    Seems reasonable.....leave it to Tour to offer a new perspective....

  • lol... every perspective is new at some point... 😉