It's time for this team to win.
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
Agree
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I second that emotion.
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Even that assumes good enough drafting and coaching to get to a double digit win season. Patience and a trust in management being not like that of old, I guess.
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
If you're a betting person- just checked the Vegas odds. the over\under on 2017 Browns wins is 4.5. Sounds about right.
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Nope, let's lose.
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if they can only do 4 wins, what happens to you and other fans in November?
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No it's not. Take the year off if you're going to get irrational.
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
Agreed. With all those high draft picks the suckitude can't go on forever, it just can't, but if the 2017 Browns win 6 games Hue is Coach of the Year.
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let's hope for 5 or 6 and mostly at home lol
just looked again at the schedule.....i see 2 wins 'maybe' going into the london trip. and poss 3 after the break.
saw pics of the london crew on tailgate romp in cleve years ago where one of the blokes was wearing a shirt that said ' i traveled 4 thousand miles to see the browns score 3 points'.
hilarious.
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There is no doubt this team has the potential to win 6 or 7. The Addition of Williams to the staff and inflow of talent are big time. Teams like this surprise and win.
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I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
I am afraid it isn't.
Last year this was basically an expansion franchise that won one game, to now expect a large amount of wins this season is very unrealistic.
Seahawks wins from 2008 thru 2011 were 4,5,7,7 then since 2012 they've hit double figures every year.
That's a far more realistic aim for the Browns and as painful as it may be, the fans will need to be patient.
here is the problem with this line of thinking: you are defining when the rebuild started based on when the seahawks started having success. Thats after the fact analysis. The reality is that in 2011 nobody was saying "the seahawks are on year 4 of a rebuild"....I remember that. Heck in the earlier part of 2012 they looked the part of a 7-9 team for sure, then caught fire.....
Like with cleveland...why can we somehow define 2017 as year 2(or 1?) of a rebuild? Because we sucked in 2015 and fired our hc and a new one took over in 2016? Well that was true in 2013 and 14 as well...so why can't we call this upcoming season year 4 or 5 of the rebuild? And if the rebuild started in 2013 or so, isn't it about time for the rebuild to show some results? Or are we just in a chronic cycle of rebuilds?? If thats the case, at what point do we get to define "new rebuilds" and reset expectations to zero where "it will take years to slowly build back up"....build up from what?
If cleveland wins 4-5 games next year, some will see it as signs the rebuild is actively on the upswing. You go from 1 to 4 to 6 to 8 and then 10+ wins....thats the pattern right? Well no, thats not the pattern at all. 4-5 wins is more likely to represent simply regression to the mean(ie normal suckitude) than any signs of what will be consistent upward progress. And when we go from 1 to 4 to 6 and then 3 wins in 2019, does that mean the rebuild was going good until 2019 and then fell off the tracks and a new rebuild starts in 2020? No, not at all....it means we sucked in 2016, 17, 18, 19, etc......
In this league you can 'get good' quickly and start to suck quickly. The margins for success/failure are pretty narrow and combine that with roster turnover gets you a lot of potential year to year variance...especially in a league where the majority of teams are going to win between 5 and 11 games every year.
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Wow, fans calling 4-6 wins good and Hue Jackoff should be annointed Coach of the year for 6 wins..... When expectations of these morons are THAT low that says it all about the pile of shit they are selling to Cleveland.
4-6 wins guys, woooo motherfucking hoo!! Can't wait to see this epic season.
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Wow, fans calling 4-6 wins good and Hue Jackoff should be annointed Coach of the year for 6 wins..... When expectations of these morons are THAT low that says it all about the pile of shit they are selling to Cleveland.
4-6 wins guys, woooo motherfucking hoo!! Can't wait to see this epic season.
Wow, fans calling 4-6 wins good and Hue Jackoff should be annointed Coach of the year for 6 wins..... When expectations of these morons are THAT low that says it all about the pile of shit they are selling to Cleveland.
4-6 wins guys, woooo motherfucking hoo!! Can't wait to see this epic season.
only become of past performance and the age of this team.
they're not going to flip a switch and be a 12 win team all-of-a-sudden.
if they do i'll buy you a bottle.
only peeps to ever take my gentlemen bets on this forum have been steeler fans. and i've paid dearly the last 10 years.......... the price of knowing they kicked our ass again and i'm sending quality beverages to swill infested PA trailer parks keeps me up at night......
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Why is this bag of shit not banned already? He's contributed nothing and clearly doesn't know his pussy from a hole in the ground.
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Wow, fans calling 4-6 wins good and Hue Jackoff should be annointed Coach of the year for 6 wins..... When expectations of these morons are THAT low that says it all about the pile of shit they are selling to Cleveland.
4-6 wins guys, woooo motherfucking hoo!! Can't wait to see this epic season.
Wow, fans calling 4-6 wins good
4-6 wins guys, woooo motherfucking hoo!! Can't wait to see this epic season.
Dont see anyone saying 4-6 is good....just an improvement....(unless, of course, you can point me to those specific posts....Ill wait)
Personally, dont think you can, cause yer just talking out of your ass.....(but, Ill wait for the quotes)
Id much rather see improvement, than not(and 4-6 wins IS an improvement).....and Id MUCH rather watch the Browns stumble thru 6 wins than to read your made up garbage....
Looks like I have another name to add to my stupid list......(waiting on those quotes please)
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