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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Right....I think we'll see Peppers all. over. the. field.

    LB....SS.....FS....KR.....etc etc etc....

    No matter what the set.....we want our best players on the field.....and I think he'll be one of those guys.....

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    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by
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    @mudfly said:

    Right....I think we'll see Peppers all. over. the. field.

    LB....SS.....FS....KR.....etc etc etc....

    No matter what the set.....we want our best players on the field.....and I think he'll be one of those guys.....

    Well said Mud! Gruden actually called his diversity of roles on Michigan a perfect fit an NFL DC that has to face so many different styles of offense/pass games.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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    • FlugelF Flugel

      Thanks for the videos Woody!

      He comes from the same school that gave our defense a very reliable Thom Darden back in the day. It's a different era but hopefully he can add a similar reliability.

      I know Peppers gets a lot of criticism in here especially when we passed up Malik Hooker/OJ Howard at #12 in order to add a 1st round pick in 2018 and select Peppers at #25 overall. The soph must have had something behind the following honors earned :

      • Lott Trophy (2016)
      • Paul Hornung Award (2016)
      • Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year (2016)
      • Big Ten Freshman of the Year (2015)
      • Unanimous All-American (2016)
      • Second-team All-American (2015)
      • 2× First-team All-Big Ten (2015, 2016)
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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      Thanks for the videos Woody!

      He comes from the same school that gave our defense a very reliable Thom Darden back in the day. It's a different era but hopefully he can add a similar reliability.

      I know Peppers gets a lot of criticism in here especially when we passed up Malik Hooker/OJ Howard at #12 in order to add a 1st round pick in 2018 and select Peppers at #25 overall. The soph must have had something behind the following honors earned :

      • Lott Trophy (2016)
      • Paul Hornung Award (2016)
      • Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year (2016)
      • Big Ten Freshman of the Year (2015)
      • Unanimous All-American (2016)
      • Second-team All-American (2015)
      • 2× First-team All-Big Ten (2015, 2016)

      And there are even more awards than that

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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        Never said didn't like the pick.

        Just reminds me of the JFF fanboys comin in and placing him at the mantle of greatness before he even stepped onto the field. I like peppa, just very careful anymore to acclaim greatness of a player i like and they fizzle like a wet wick.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          yeah, similarities....they were both human beings...

          but they are different people, Pepper isn't a wild alcoholic/druggie/partier/loser and they

          play completely different positions and....

          geez.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            1) No Michigan fans have appeared on our board since we drafted Peppers. I was here before and I'll be here after.

            2) I posted a documentary of his draft process. I never announced him as the savior of the team. You can go back through and read my posts on his skill and what he'll bring. Hell, Gip repeatedly posted that I said he couldn't cover (I didn't).

            3) There were also non Aggie fan Browns fans that slobbed all over Johnny's knob. They should be lumped in their too.

            4) The fact we didn't draft Hooker is going to make the OSU fans on our board salty for a while I imagine.

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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              Speaking of the Devil, I was walking in downtown Estes Park, Colo. this afternoon and came across this right on the main street.

              http://www.visitestespark.com/listings/sgt-peppers-music-%26-video/968/

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              • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                1) No Michigan fans have appeared on our board since we drafted Peppers. I was here before and I'll be here after.

                2) I posted a documentary of his draft process. I never announced him as the savior of the team. You can go back through and read my posts on his skill and what he'll bring. Hell, Gip repeatedly posted that I said he couldn't cover (I didn't).

                3) There were also non Aggie fan Browns fans that slobbed all over Johnny's knob. They should be lumped in their too.

                4) The fact we didn't draft Hooker is going to make the OSU fans on our board salty for a while I imagine.

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                4) The fact we didn't draft Hooker is going to make the OSU fans on our board salty for a while I imagine.

                Got to admit I was losing it till the 1st rounder next year was announced. A wHole lot better after Peppers was still there at 25. than went to ecstatic when Njoku was announced. Lattimore got played by a Hooker. Hooker's got'a a shoulder issue that may not fair well for a safety. Peppers has got far to many doors that could open on the field over 1 shutdown CB or S. Just getting this one right would be really nice..

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                • MudflyM Mudfly

                  Right....I think we'll see Peppers all. over. the. field.

                  LB....SS.....FS....KR.....etc etc etc....

                  No matter what the set.....we want our best players on the field.....and I think he'll be one of those guys.....

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                  Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                  @mudfly said:

                  Right....I think we'll see Peppers all. over. the. field.

                  LB....SS.....FS....KR.....etc etc etc....

                  No matter what the set.....we want our best players on the field.....and I think he'll be one of those guys.....

                  Mud, we are 100% in agreement on this one. I think he'll be all over the place.

                  Mike

                  IN DORSEY I TRUST
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                  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike

                    @mudfly said:

                    Right....I think we'll see Peppers all. over. the. field.

                    LB....SS.....FS....KR.....etc etc etc....

                    No matter what the set.....we want our best players on the field.....and I think he'll be one of those guys.....

                    Mud, we are 100% in agreement on this one. I think he'll be all over the place.

                    Mike

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                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                    @canton-mike said:

                    Mud, we are 100% in agreement on this one. I think he'll be all over the place.

                    Mike

                    Let's hope that is true and that we add more like him next draft as well. Hybrid defensive players under an innovative DC. The more the merrier.

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                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                      As it stands we need a centerfielder in the mold of Hooker far more than a SS/nickel like Peppers.

                      That having been said, Jabrill has more potential than Ward and that is the standard I'll be holding him to. I expect his career to follow a similar arc, improving his man coverage in the first year or two - then contending for a probowl nod year 3.

                      He's capable and by everything we've heard, determined enough to be as effective.

                      Especially under a motivator like Gregg Williams, I expect some good things.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        You did say that his covered skills that were questionable which I guess you're right you didn't say specifically that he could not cover just that his coverage skills were questionable if you want to be a woman is that I guess you can but you did say that or you go to someone else he did say that and basically played it to yourself

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          Holy run on sentence Batman

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          • The GipperT The Gipper

                            You did say that his covered skills that were questionable which I guess you're right you didn't say specifically that he could not cover just that his coverage skills were questionable if you want to be a woman is that I guess you can but you did say that or you go to someone else he did say that and basically played it to yourself

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            You did say that his covered skills that were questionable which I guess you're right you didn't say specifically that he could not cover just that his coverage skills were questionable if you want to be a woman is that I guess you can but you did say that or you go to someone else he did say that and basically played it to yourself

                            The fuck does this ramble even mean?

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                              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                              Wow. That was the best Gipper post I've ever read. gumby73 is probably holding him hostage somewhere.

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                                Wow. That was the best Gipper post I've ever read. gumby73 is probably holding him hostage somewhere.

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                                T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                                @wargograw said:

                                Wow. That was the best Gipper post I've ever read. gumby73 is probably holding him hostage somewhere.

                                Yep, ate a bit too much gumbo for dinner prolly.

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                                  Wow. That was the best Gipper post I've ever read. gumby73 is probably holding him hostage somewhere.

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                                  gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  Wow. That was the best Gipper post I've ever read. gumby73 is probably holding him hostage somewhere.

                                  not a chance in hell. but a charlie brown's teacher try?

                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  You did say that his covered skills that were questionable which I guess you're right you didn't say specifically that he could not cover just that his coverage skills were questionable if you want to be a woman is that I guess you can but you did say that or you go to someone else he did say that and basically played it to yourself

                                  (Tia or woody) did say that peppers coverage skills were questionable. Which Gip guesses (Tia or Woody) is right.(Tia or Woody) didn't say specifically that peppers could not cover. Just that peppers coverage skills were questionable. If (Woody or Tia) wants to be a women about it? I guess (Woody or Tia) can? but (Woody or Tia) did say that. (Tia or Woody) can go be someone else? but, (Woody or Tia) did say that & basically played it to (Tia or Woody) Na Nu Na Nu ... And may you both show up tomorrow in the courtroom of Gripperness...& of course Good LUck!! WE SHALL ALL BE JURY WITNESSES

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                                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                    I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                    My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                    Do I see him being the ball hawk on the backend that keeps QB's checking on his alignment? No. That i do not and I can't see him becoming such.

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                                      I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                      My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                      Do I see him being the ball hawk on the backend that keeps QB's checking on his alignment? No. That i do not and I can't see him becoming such.

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                                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                      @tiamat63 said:

                                      I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                      My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                      Never thought of it, but hell yea we would take a more disciplined TJ Ward back at S. While were at it, if we can get Larry Ogunjobi who is build like Micheal Bennett to play like Fletcher Cox, now were on to something..

                                      Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                                        @tiamat63 said:

                                        I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                        My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                        Never thought of it, but hell yea we would take a more disciplined TJ Ward back at S. While were at it, if we can get Larry Ogunjobi who is build like Micheal Bennett to play like Fletcher Cox, now were on to something..

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                        @gumby73 said:

                                        Never thought of it, but hell yea we would take a more disciplined TJ Ward back at S. While were at it, if we can get Larry Ogunjobi who is build like Micheal Bennett to play like Fletcher Cox, now were on to something..

                                        Michael Bennett from tOSU or A&M/Hawks Bennett? If you mean the latter then your comparison couldn't be further off.

                                        Jobi is a low built, stout 3tech. Who, surprisingly, gets skinny pretty well for a man his size.

                                        Bennett is an edge defender with the strength to side inside in subpackages.

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                                        • tiamat63T tiamat63

                                          I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                          My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                          Do I see him being the ball hawk on the backend that keeps QB's checking on his alignment? No. That i do not and I can't see him becoming such.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          I'm on record as saying Peppers coverage was suspect and needed improvement. But he's not going to be asked to be Earl Thomas - as I said.

                                          My benchmark for him will be TJ Ward. One he does have the potential to fulfill.

                                          Do I see him being the ball hawk on the backend that keeps QB's checking on his alignment? No. That i do not and I can't see him becoming such.

                                          See, I understand he isn't that now, but I could easily see him becoming that. He's never focused on just that full time, so there really isn't any basis to say he can't

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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