The Trump Effect
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Hatred of Trump is so strong that it's turning liberals into libertarians (links at the bottom). As a Trump supporter, I'm biased, so I want to know everyone else's thoughts. Seems like private industry, city, and state governments are stepping up to the plate to curtail climate change. Here's my question - what would have had a bigger effect - us staying in the (mostly meaningless) Paris Accord and relying on fed tax dollars to fix the problem, or withdrawing from it and motivating smaller players who were previously doing nothing of note to curtail climate change?
I think the more obvious motivations for Trump to withdraw from the accord were as follows
A - Give the middle finger to Obama and Merkel.
B - his decision galvanizes his support in the Rust Belt. The Democrats are going to have an even tougher time prying those votes from Trump.
If Trump motivating states and private industry to act on climate change was actually part of his plan, then he truly is playing 8d chess.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/6f60r8/180_mayors_adopt_paris_climate_accord_after_us/
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Tim Kaines tweet "lack of leadership " shot at Trump fails
He ( represented as govt,interference) simply gets out of the way of letting the capable free markets
develop and sell this important tech.
that IS leadership! Way to go Trump
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Trump is a genius.
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As Trump slaughters the left's sacred cow the left (particularly Hollywood liberals) heads are exploding and their Trump Derangement Syndrome goes into overdrive.
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Oh bullshit. No way in hell Trump did this as part of some sort of 8D chess move to actually positively impact the climate. This is the guy that thinks climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese. I realize you're a Trump fan but come on, be reasonable.
Many companies were already making strides towards green energy, regardless of Trump's decision. I'm not sure how much motivation he's provided vs what was already there.
I enjoyed that even through Trump said he represents "Pittsburgh not Paris" the Pittsburgh mayor called him out on leaving the agreement.
I still think the govt. providing funding and imposing regulations is the quickest method towards making large scale, meaningful changes to curtail climate change. Not to mention Trump leaving continues to make the US look bad while undermining the efforts of the whole agreement to begin with.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Actually the hysteria over climate-change is, in my opinion, a hoax perpetrated on the rich countries of the world to get them to squeeze out a few more bucks for the poor countries. Sure climate-change is happening, no doubt.
The solution? Send us a check. A big one.
When you guys have people like Al Gore at the forefront of your movement you are fucked to begin with.
WSS
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Actually the hysteria over climate-change is, in my opinion, a hoax perpetrated on the rich countries of the world to get them to squeeze out a few more bucks for the poor countries. Sure climate-change is happening, no doubt.
The solution? Send us a check. A big one.
When you guys have people like Al Gore at the forefront of your movement you are fucked to begin with.
WSS
Actually the hysteria over climate-change is, in my opinion, a hoax perpetrated on the rich countries of the world to get them to squeeze out a few more bucks for the poor countries. Sure climate-change is happening, no doubt.
The solution? Send us a check. A big one.
When you guys have people like Al Gore at the forefront of your movement you are fucked to begin with.
WSS
Scientists are at the forefront of the movement.
The issue has been politicized beyond belief. Mainly by the right, but by the left as well.
The solution is much more than "send us a check", but if we're constantly having to argue against the lowest common denominator denier arguments, then we're barely going to make any real progress on the issue. I'd rather we argue over what to do than argue over whether that thing virtually all qualified scientists say is happening is actually happening.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
maxine isn't right.... needs a padded room and assistance in learning how to be a decent, intelligent human being.
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You both of course realize that post, is in fact, a parody account....?
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nope. how do you tell the difference between her real self and a nutjob parody?
they are both very corrupt, and stupid, it seems to me.
NOTE:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14903/7-things-you-need-know-about-maxine-waters-besides-aaron-bandler
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โThe rest of the world would like to tell us how to manage our own environment,โ she said. โAnd I think that anybody in America can tell you that weโre best to decide what America should do. We donโt need India, and France, and China telling us what they think we should do.โ
She added, โAmerican sovereignty matters.โ UN Ambassador Nikki Haley
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Actually the hysteria over climate-change is, in my opinion, a hoax perpetrated on the rich countries of the world to get them to squeeze out a few more bucks for the poor countries. Sure climate-change is happening, no doubt.
The solution? Send us a check. A big one.
When you guys have people like Al Gore at the forefront of your movement you are fucked to begin with.
WSS
Scientists are at the forefront of the movement.
The issue has been politicized beyond belief. Mainly by the right, but by the left as well.
The solution is much more than "send us a check", but if we're constantly having to argue against the lowest common denominator denier arguments, then we're barely going to make any real progress on the issue. I'd rather we argue over what to do than argue over whether that thing virtually all qualified scientists say is happening is actually happening.
Scientists are at the forefront of the movement.
The issue has been politicized beyond belief. Mainly by the right, but by the left as well.
The solution is much more than "send us a check", but if we're constantly having to argue against the lowest common denominator denier arguments, then we're barely going to make any real progress on the issue. I'd rather we argue over what to do than argue over whether that thing virtually all qualified scientists say is happening is actually happening.
Almost no one denies that there is climate-change and almost no 1 denies that mankind might have some effect on it.
But almost every International solution is based on the United States sending somebody a check.
WSS
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So this is from a comedian. Should be easier for you to grasp.
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WSS
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And one of the reasons I believe this wanders into the political hoax category is the phrasing the interviewer uses at the very outset of the piece.
WSS
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alas, poor Sheppie - his pretty qb's made him a fool, and his entire earth flooded in a few years nonsense
made him a fool -
he had to go hide on the net. It was always "Mr. Sheppie's Neighborhood"
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According to NASA, the sea level has been rising for the past 20,000 years.
It's up 0.93 FEET over the last 100 years.
Somehow they're still selling beachfront mansions in Miami for $65 million.
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Oh bullshit. No way in hell Trump did this as part of some sort of 8D chess move to actually positively impact the climate. This is the guy that thinks climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese. I realize you're a Trump fan but come on, be reasonable.
Many companies were already making strides towards green energy, regardless of Trump's decision. I'm not sure how much motivation he's provided vs what was already there.
I enjoyed that even through Trump said he represents "Pittsburgh not Paris" the Pittsburgh mayor called him out on leaving the agreement.
I still think the govt. providing funding and imposing regulations is the quickest method towards making large scale, meaningful changes to curtail climate change. Not to mention Trump leaving continues to make the US look bad while undermining the efforts of the whole agreement to begin with.
Oh bullshit. No way in hell Trump did this as part of some sort of 8D chess move to actually positively impact the climate. This is the guy that thinks climate change is a hoax invented by the Chinese. I realize you're a Trump fan but come on, be reasonable.
You really think that Trump believes it's a hoax invented by the Chinese? Remember when he believed that Obama's birth certificate was a fake? Remember how he dropped the issue as soon as he won over the evangelicals? I'm sure a guy intelligent enough to manipulate the country into voting him their president understands climate change perfectly well. He's going to frame it in whichever way is the most politically convenient.
I enjoyed that even through Trump said he represents "Pittsburgh not Paris" the Pittsburgh mayor called him out on leaving the agreement.
As if the Democrat mayor of any major US city is going to side with Trump on anything. You seem to be forgetting that "Pittsburgh" represents this entire area.
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Woody doesn't have any common sense in case you haven't noticed the past few years.
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