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    Bodes well that he was moved from S to CB. Seattle does not do that lightly. Had a friend they did that with back in the day and now he has a Superbowl ring. Superb all-around athlete and that makes me think that Powell must be so as well.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Bodes well that he was moved from S to CB. Seattle does not do that lightly. Had a friend they did that with back in the day and now he has a Superbowl ring. Superb all-around athlete and that makes me think that Powell must be so as well.

    May have more to do with their search for a replacement for Browner who was rejoining SEA in 2016.

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      @texasag1969 said:

      Bodes well that he was moved from S to CB. Seattle does not do that lightly. Had a friend they did that with back in the day and now he has a Superbowl ring. Superb all-around athlete and that makes me think that Powell must be so as well.

      Why would Seattle cut him them? It doesn't seem like a Justin Gilbert situation where the guy is devoid of talent...or desire to play.

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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      Why would Seattle cut him them? It doesn't seem like a Justin Gilbert situation where the guy is devoid of talent...or desire to play.

      http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/why-did-the-seahawk-waive-tyvis-powell-to-make-room-for-devin-hester-heres-why/

      "So why did the Seahawks waive Powell now if they kept him on the roster all season in large part because they wanted to keep him around for the future?

      A couple things happened along the way.

      One, after the injury to Earl Thomas, Seattle brought back Jeron Johnson, a Seahawk from 2011-14 who immediately moved into a role as a backup strong safety to Kam Chancellor with Kelcie McCray who had been the backup strong safety moving to backup free safety behind Steven Terrell, who was now the starter in place of Thomas.

      With the Seahawks still harboring legitimate Super Bowl hopes, the team preferred the experience and reliability of Johnson at that position as opposed to an untested player such as Powell.

      The team is also keeping five cornerbacks, the fifth of whom is DeAndre Elliott, who has emerged as an immediate special teams contributor Elliott has played 191 special teams snaps, seventh on the team, while Powell had played 104. Powell, though, had been inactive the last four weeks and six of the last eight while Elliott has played in each of the last eight games and has even snuck in 29 defensive snaps (Powell never played a down on defense).

      Basically, that made Powell the 10th defensive back, when the Seahawks have often kept just nine. That was a luxury the team was willing to live with for most of the season.

      But a couple other things then happened this week.

      One, defensive tackle Tony McDaniel suffered a concussion Sunday something the media/public didnt know about until Wednesday and will not be able to play against the Lions Saturday.

      That means that John Jenkins, a backup defensive tackle who has only played twice since being claimed by Seattle off waivers from New Orleans in November, may suddenly be needed in a depth role. With McDaniel out, Jenkins who maybe could have been deemed expendable becomes essentially the third defensive tackle behind Jarran Reed and Ahtyba Rubin and seems likely to be active against the Lions.

      Another player the Seahawks could have also considered waiving instead of Powell running back Terrence Magee they basically couldnt.

      Magee was signed off Clevelands practice on Dec. 20 to add depth at running back, a move the team made the week after Seattle had placed Troymaine Pope on Injured Reserve.

      Players signed off another teams practice squad, though, have to be on the 53-man roster for three weeks or the team loses the roster spot in other words, Seattle could have waived Magee, but they couldnt have filled his spot and would have had only 52 players for this week. Once a team is in the playoffs and a Super Bowl a legitimate possibility, the present tends to take precedence over the future.

      And with Thomas Rawls nursing a sore shoulder suffered against the Cardinals on Dec. 24 hes been deemed healthy but the team has no choice but to hedge its bets somewhat and C.J. Prosise still not back, Seattle needs the depth at tailback, anyway.

      All of that led to the Seahawks reluctantly deciding to waive Powell."

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        So, it sounds like, bottom line, the Seahawks and Browns simply did an effective indirect trade of DB Powell for RB Magee.

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          So, it sounds like, bottom line, the Seahawks and Browns simply did an effective indirect trade of DB Powell for RB Magee.

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          So, it sounds like, bottom line, the Seahawks and Browns simply did an effective indirect trade of DB Powell for RB Magee.

          Basically.

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            I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

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              I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

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              Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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              Mitch2Pryor said:

              I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

              I agree. Time will tell but I think this kid will be special for the Browns.

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                I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                @dkallday said:

                I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

                We waived him today

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                  @dkallday said:

                  I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

                  We waived him today

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  We waived him today

                  And he is due to throw a first pitch for the indians. Yikes...

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                    Mitch2Pryor said:

                    I really think this is going to end up being a huge pickup

                    I agree. Time will tell but I think this kid will be special for the Browns.

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                    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                    @canton-mike said:

                    I agree. Time will tell but I think this kid will be special for the Browns.

                    Mike

                    So what the hell do I know? LOL

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      The guy must not have impressed Williams at all.

                      We now have a roster spot open. Maybe for a receiver? Decker, anybody?

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        The guy must not have impressed Williams at all.

                        We now have a roster spot open. Maybe for a receiver? Decker, anybody?

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                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                        @ballpeen said:

                        The guy must not have impressed Williams at all.

                        Ha....or anybody else, ftm....

                        Gotta be a pretty bad FS to be cut by a 1-15 team that desperately needs a FS.....

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                          The guy must not have impressed Williams at all.

                          We now have a roster spot open. Maybe for a receiver? Decker, anybody?

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                          @ballpeen said:

                          The guy must not have impressed Williams at all.

                          We now have a roster spot open. Maybe for a receiver? Decker, anybody?

                          For the record,we once again have the highest paid OL as a group of 7 under contract. Highest Paid Guard group of 7 on team. 2nd highest paid long snapper. 7th in paid CB's with 11 😕. Rank 8th in both paying LT & Punter.Here's some more of the oddities? Rank 31st paying 5 TE's. Rank 30th paying 9 Safety's.(FS 24th,SS 23rd),Rank 28th in both paying 2 RT's & paying 6 DT's. WR's we rank 27th paying 11. Total DL of 13 & 5 Rb's both rank 25th..Yep, it's still early with mandatory camp this Tuesday. Somebody is coming on board.

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                            @ghoolie said:

                            ......... HIGHEST PAID OL ONCE AGAIN.............

                            That is interesting, considering how bad our line was last year and we only added 1 top flight player.....we'll see if the money is well spent....

                            Ive been bitching about our lack of signing ANY quality FA's...until the one guy we tapped this year.....but all the others we've signed have been very underwhelming and, in a few cases, seemingly way over paid.......

                            So...while we have barely signed anybody, the few that we have signed dont seem to be great pick ups OR bargains.....

                            Here's hoping Britt and Zeitler are worth it.......(cause we sure know last years star FA...Davis....wasnt)

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                              @ghoolie said:

                              ......... HIGHEST PAID OL ONCE AGAIN.............

                              That is interesting, considering how bad our line was last year and we only added 1 top flight player.....we'll see if the money is well spent....

                              Ive been bitching about our lack of signing ANY quality FA's...until the one guy we tapped this year.....but all the others we've signed have been very underwhelming and, in a few cases, seemingly way over paid.......

                              So...while we have barely signed anybody, the few that we have signed dont seem to be great pick ups OR bargains.....

                              Here's hoping Britt and Zeitler are worth it.......(cause we sure know last years star FA...Davis....wasnt)

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                              gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                              @mudfly said:

                              So...while we have barely signed anybody, the few that we have signed dont seem to be great pick ups OR bargains.....

                              Here's hoping Britt and Zeitler are worth it.......(cause we sure know last years star FA...Davis....wasnt)

                              Britt got Pryors deal. call it a draw. We finally absorbed some cost on guys we needed to re-sign..Collins,Bitonio,Kirksey, A true Center was a must (we even extended a LS'er & Punter) did we ever have a doubt 😉

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                                @mudfly said:

                                So...while we have barely signed anybody, the few that we have signed dont seem to be great pick ups OR bargains.....

                                Here's hoping Britt and Zeitler are worth it.......(cause we sure know last years star FA...Davis....wasnt)

                                Britt got Pryors deal. call it a draw. We finally absorbed some cost on guys we needed to re-sign..Collins,Bitonio,Kirksey, A true Center was a must (we even extended a LS'er & Punter) did we ever have a doubt 😉

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                                MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                @gumby73 said:

                                Britt got Pryors deal. call it a draw.

                                Im gonna call it overpaid....and knee jerk(which is why he got Pryors deal)........

                                He's the 12th highest paid WR in the league.....what indicates he's worth that?....certainly not his production from his first 9 years....

                                How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

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                                  Well, ya could wait and see how he produces rather than project based on past?

                                  Just a thought

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                                    @gumby73 said:

                                    Britt got Pryors deal. call it a draw.

                                    Im gonna call it overpaid....and knee jerk(which is why he got Pryors deal)........

                                    He's the 12th highest paid WR in the league.....what indicates he's worth that?....certainly not his production from his first 9 years....

                                    How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

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                                    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                                    @mudfly said:

                                    How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

                                    Bowe was 31 when came on board.Britt will turn 29 this Sept. Bowe's deal was 2yrs.13M,9M guaranteed. Britt 4yrs. 32.5M wow 17M guaranteed..Britt may not have had much support with some of the QB's throwing him the ball? Hope that changes as #1 here. Bowe I still swear was a parting gift from Ray's Farm sponsored by Jimmas Flyin J's profits. I truly hope coach Pettine finds a way back in this league..Pet got so screwed as a zookeeper but knew his players talent-less roster. Coach Pet did lose his father last season..

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                                      I'm going to guess we have a few more million laying around now than we did in 2015.

                                      Nevertheless, I do agree it was a questionable signing.

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                                        Well, ya could wait and see how he produces rather than project based on past?

                                        Just a thought

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                                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                        @choco said:

                                        Well, ya could wait and see how he produces rather than project based on past?

                                        Im not projecting anything.....Im looking back and comparing the response to his signing with the response to Bowes signing(which also came before he played a snap).....

                                        dude is 9 yrs in the league, which makes it easy to establish value.....my only point is that he was paid all-pro - top of the league type of money and doesnt have the numbers to support that.....none the less, he might be the best WR we have.....just overpaid and, likely, to be on the downside of his career.....

                                        You wanna call it a great signing, then do so.....I say it's a desperation move as a reaction to losing out on Pryor.....

                                        @mudfly said:

                                        Im gonna call it overpaid....and knee jerk(which is why he got Pryors deal)........

                                        He's the 12th highest paid WR in the league.....what indicates he's worth that?....certainly not his production from his first 9 years....

                                        How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

                                        @gumby73 said:

                                        Bowe was 31 when came on board.Britt will turn 29 this Sept. Bowe's deal was 2yrs.13M,9M guaranteed. Britt 4yrs. 32.5M wow 17M guaranteed..Britt may not have had much support with some of the QB's throwing him the ball? Hope that changes as #1 here. Bowe I still swear was a parting gift from Ray's Farm sponsored by Jimmas Flyin J's profits. I truly hope coach Pettine finds a way back in this league..Pet got so screwed as a zookeeper but knew his players talent-less roster. Coach Pet did lose his father last season..

                                        Wow is right.....and, yep, I agree with the Pettine thing.....he got a raw deal. But we have moved on and Im sure he will too.....

                                        @wargograw said:

                                        I'm going to guess we have a few more million laying around now than we did in 2015.

                                        Nevertheless, I do agree it was a questionable signing.

                                        Probably......but we were pretty fat back then too.....and, honestly, I dont care about Haslams money or how much each player makes.....I only respond or go after the hypocrisy I see in the reactions to those signings......where the Bowe signing gets attacked and the Britt signing is hailed as brilliant....yet, on paper, they are almost exactly the same.....with Britts being slightly more ridiculous...

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                                          @gumby73 said:

                                          Britt got Pryors deal. call it a draw.

                                          Im gonna call it overpaid....and knee jerk(which is why he got Pryors deal)........

                                          He's the 12th highest paid WR in the league.....what indicates he's worth that?....certainly not his production from his first 9 years....

                                          How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

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                                          @mudfly said:

                                          Im gonna call it overpaid....and knee jerk(which is why he got Pryors deal)........

                                          He's the 12th highest paid WR in the league.....what indicates he's worth that?....certainly not his production from his first 9 years....

                                          How could we condemn Bowe as a terrible signing, but praise Britt as a great one, when Bowe way out produced Britt and then signed for less?....wasnt the knock that he had too much guaranteed $ for an old guy?.....yet, here we are with another old guy(with less production) and a bigger guaranteed contract....

                                          12th by what measure? Britt's $8.1mm/yr average salary is 19th in the league and with 11 WRs at $11mm or more is clearly 2nd tier money.

                                          https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

                                          As for being happy with the Britt vs. the Bowe signing... for me it starts with Britt looking like he still wants to play and having the tools to do so.

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