Browns president gives insight into new season

choco

@inspecta said:
choco, please explain what you mean?

why? if you dont get it, im not wasting the time to spoon feed you. seeing as how you....and tim-whatever-the-xxxx-his-name-is seem to think im siding with lumberg here, i'll just let you go down that road.

frankly, i dont care.

choco

AdaM said:
So which one are you this morning?
Drunk

or

Stupid?

an here's my point.....

head in the sand. lemme guess, now we're going to hear how crenel held him outta practice and duct tapes a baseball bat over his elbow so he couldn't throw.....

its everyone fault but quinns......and yet, when engaged, you can only deflect.

choco

@choco said:
an here's my point.....
head in the sand. lemme guess, now we're going to hear how crenel held him outta practice and duct tapes a baseball bat over his elbow so he couldn't throw.....

its everyone fault but quinns......and yet, when engaged, you can only deflect.

Why do you think I'm talking to you?

Drunkandstoopid

AdaM said:
So which one are you this morning?
Drunk

or

Stupid?

Truthful and realistic is more like it. BQ played all preseason, threw only 1 TD pass, had a 1/1TD to int ratio - something DA was criticized for doing the previous year. DA missed most of preseason, started practice again on the 1st of September for a game on the 7th, practiced INSIDE because he still had light sensitivity, Crennel was quoted that week as saying they wanted to try DA outside for one practice before making the call... sounds as though his health was pretty questionable for a starting NFL QB to me.

You've got idiots on this board acting as though DA was game ready, as well as others who were battling injury and swollen gonads at the time, all along coming into that first game. Quinn should have started, is it possible the coaches weren't overly impressed with his preseason?

Gips

Inspecta
And again your using the argument against Quinn that since the last coach/FO didn't think he was all that great then it must be so, when that last coach/FO is no longer with the team. They were fired due to poor performance, so really dude how can you use their judgment as a valid marker for where Quinn is in his development?

And again man, nobody on here is saying it's a lock that Quinn is going to be the answer. Nobody has made that claim on this message board except maybe in passing when chicken shitting with Lumnuts to get him riled up. However we have to see what we have in him, he's a first round QB that has not gotten a fair shake. We already know what we have in DA and that's not nearly good enough to get us where we need to be.

Very good point many of us hope BQ is the answer because we know DA isnt the answer and i dont think mangini will start BQ if he doesnt think he can win but nobody has said BQ is the answer he could be and we would like to see what he has....

Drunkandstoopid

@inspecta said:
That makes no sense. Ok, DA was criticized for having a 1/1 ratio, and Quinn did the same thing yet he wasn't deemed "good enough" to start?
No, this goes back to the stubbornness of RAC to play his "vets" over unproven young guys. Are we to believe that Jerome Harrison also wasn't good enough to challenge Lewis for more playing time?

And again your using the argument against Quinn that since the last coach/FO didn't think he was all that great then it must be so, when that last coach/FO is no longer with the team. They were fired due to poor performance, so really dude how can you use their judgment as a valid marker for where Quinn is in his development?

And again man, nobody on here is saying it's a lock that Quinn is going to be the answer. Nobody has made that claim on this message board except maybe in passing when chicken shitting with Lumnuts to get him riled up. However we have to see what we have in him, he's a first round QB that has not gotten a fair shake. We already know what we have in DA and that's not nearly good enough to get us where we need to be.

Many posters here pointed out DA's preseason int in '07 and that he "lost" to Charlie Frye. He wasn't deemed "good enough" to start in '07, so why should it be any different for Quinn (who had a lot more playing time preseason '08 than DA did in preseason '07 by the way, but couldn't improve on DA's '07 preseason results) in '08.

I do agree that RAC had a stubbornness problem, especially in his sticking with Frye, who at his best was mediocre. It would be nice to see Harrison, especially when Lewis isn't moving the chains (I don't think it's over for Lewis just yet though, the guy's got ability).

I'm waiting to see what the current Coach/FO has to say on the QB's this fall, hopefully earlier. My guess is they'll choose who they think gives the Brown's the best chance to win. Many here just want to see Quinn, period, based solely on their dislike of DA, who hasn't played a full preseason schedule for the Browns the last couple of years, yet won more games than any QB in recent Browns history. Let the coaches decide, it may very well be Quinn, and good for him, but giving it to Quinn just because there's a bunch of idiots unhappy with the last Coaches and DA's results under them without a competition doesn't make sense. My guess and hope is that the coaches will make their decision by mid-summer after some OTAs/camps and dump one and give whoever they keep the benefit of a full fall preseason as the number 1 guy.

Drunkandstoopid

@drunkandstoopid said:
Many here just want to see Quinn, period, based solely on their dislike of DA.

I need to take a break from this place. This type of shit is beyond maddening.

Guest

mz. said:
I need to take a break from this place. This type of shit is beyond maddening.

D&S

We don't hate DA, we hate the 2+ years of terrible play he has shown. He OBVIOUSLY is not the answer at QB for the browns. We want to know IF Quinn IS.

Drunkandstoopid

AdaM said:
D&S
We don't hate DA, we hate the 2+ years of terrible play he has shown. He OBVIOUSLY is not the answer at QB for the browns. We want to know IF Quinn IS.

I'm content to wait for the coaches to chime in. Odds are they're getting rid of one of the two by fall, definitely picking one as a starter. If Quinn's the guy to lead the Browns, I'll have no problems with that, can't say that you are showing even a hint that you'll be content with the coach's decision if they decide to stick with Anderson.

Lumbergh

AdaM said:
D&S
We don't hate DA, we hate the 2+ years of terrible play he has shown. He OBVIOUSLY is not the answer at QB for the browns. We want to know IF Quinn IS.

The only OBVIOUS thing here is that AdaM wants to give Brady Quinn a rim job.

Anderson is a legit NFL vet with a Pro Bowl on his resume and a "C" patch on his shoulder given to him by his teammates.

Quinn sucked shit against 3 bad teams, losing 2 easy games that Anderson would have won. Plus he's a cocksucker who's teammates punch him in the face and shave his head.

Not only that, but him and his agent are already starting their bitchfest about his incentive money, just like I predicted.

And like I said before to you and the rest of the BQ Fags, Quinn's only hope is for a RANDY LERNER INTERVENTION.

Lumbergh

@lumbergh said:
The only OBVIOUS thing here is that AdaM wants to give Brady Quinn a rim job.
Anderson is a legit NFL vet with a Pro Bowl on his resume and a "C" patch on his shoulder given to him by his teammates.

Quinn sucked shit against 3 bad teams, losing 2 easy games that Anderson would have won. Plus he's a cocksucker who's teammates punch him in the face and shave his head.

Not only that, but him and his agent are already starting their bitchfest about his incentive money, just like I predicted.

And like I said before to you and the rest of the BQ Fags, Quinn's only hope is for a RANDY LERNER INTERVENTION.

Or an offense tailored to Quinn's skill set.

Holy shit are you angry.

Riffer X

@lumbergh said:
The only OBVIOUS thing here is that AdaM wants to give Brady Quinn a rim job.
Anderson is a legit NFL vet with a Pro Bowl on his resume and a "C" patch on his shoulder given to him by his teammates.

Quinn sucked shit against 3 bad teams, losing 2 easy games that Anderson would have won. Plus he's a cocksucker who's teammates punch him in the face and shave his head.

Not only that, but him and his agent are already starting their bitchfest about his incentive money, just like I predicted.

And like I said before to you and the rest of the BQ Fags, Quinn's only hope is for a RANDY LERNER INTERVENTION.

Dude, go crank up the Air Supply and then crank one out to your Derek Bear poster for God's sake. You're going to have a conniption over this shit son.

Relax and breathe, relax and breathe. Think good thoughts, like you and Derek Bear riding bareback together on your favorite pony when you were a kid. Think of the innocent flirting back in the day when times were good and Dex was a starter.

It's all good bud.

Riffer X

@jadbf said:
I still say it's because Lums WANTS Anderson to stay a Brown NOT because he want's him to win with the Browns. BUT FOR THE EXACT FACT that so many Browns fans dislike DA.
Here in Cleveland Lum can leave messages on DA's cell phone all the time. "They all hate you Derickbear. I'm the only true fan you have. I've supported you all along. I know how great you are. Please call me."

If DA moves on to be the "veteran backup" on some other team, no one will care either way about him, and Lums loses all his leverage with DA.

Is it just me or is he getting ready to break like da ich?

Lumbergh

@lumbergh said:
The only OBVIOUS thing here is that AdaM wants to give Brady Quinn a rim job.
Anderson is a legit NFL vet with a Pro Bowl on his resume and a "C" patch on his shoulder given to him by his teammates.

Quinn sucked shit against 3 bad teams, losing 2 easy games that Anderson would have won. Plus he's a cocksucker who's teammates punch him in the face and shave his head.

Not only that, but him and his agent are already starting their bitchfest about his incentive money, just like I predicted.

And like I said before to you and the rest of the BQ Fags, Quinn's only hope is for a RANDY LERNER INTERVENTION.

Why would I rim Quinn when we all know I got amber at home?

weak.

Mr. T

@jadbf said:
I still say it's because Lums WANTS Anderson to stay a Brown NOT because he want's him to win with the Browns. BUT FOR THE EXACT FACT that so many Browns fans dislike DA.
Here in Cleveland Lum can leave messages on DA's cell phone all the time. "They all hate you Derickbear. I'm the only true fan you have. I've supported you all along. I know how great you are. Please call me."

If DA moves on to be the "veteran backup" on some other team, no one will care either way about him, and Lums loses all his leverage with DA.

Sounds like Lumberg is a derek stalker, one time the Strongsville police were called out to DA's pad when they got there they discovered Lumpy had DA tied up with duct tape to a chair while he was reading him love poems.