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  • @westside-steve said:

    Well if it turns out this guy is unable to play the game football what the fuck's the difference who we would have taken instead?

    WSS

    Well, who you take can mean a big difference. If we had drafted Derek Carr instead of JP Manziel...do you not think that could have made a difference?

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, who you take can mean a big difference. If we had drafted Derek Carr instead of JP Manziel...do you not think that could have made a difference?

    I'm talking about making a huge investment and the number one Prospect in the draft and then finding out that you didn't know enough about his medical condition and he won't be able to play. That means it doesn't matter which able-bodied Prospect you selected there.

    WSS

  • Until I hear otherwise I'm calling it a fracture or lisfranc. Surgery coming soon, possible amputation.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Until I hear otherwise I'm calling it a fracture or lisfranc. Surgery coming soon, possible amputation.

    You of course realize your willful ignorance has no bearing on miles injury?

    Call it whatever you want, no one really cares.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    Until I hear otherwise I'm calling it a fracture or lisfranc. Surgery coming soon, possible amputation.

    You of course realize your willful ignorance has no bearing on miles injury?

    Call it whatever you want, no one really cares.

    @choco said:

    You of course realize your willful ignorance has no bearing on miles injury?

    Call it whatever you want, no one really cares.

    Oh you'll care when he doesn't answer the bell for training camp.

  • Cool story

  • @ghoolie said:

    Again, FluteGirl argued with me incessantly that Winslow's microfracture was going to return him to like new.

    And yet we're still in search of our very first cut and paste of what I actually said from you. Should I be flattered at how hard you're trying and the lengths you've resorted to? The reality here between you and me is one of us has a pretty good background in football while the other has only worn a jock strap as the eye patch of his pirate costume on Halloween.

    So where are we Girlie? Oh yeah, Winslow's post op prognosis. While I'll admit I thought Winslow would be a great pick for us - I never thought multiple surgeries and staph infections would make him like new. That's just more of you desperately posting what you wished I said. He only made 1 Pro Bowl after all the surgeries and staph infections so he was only a solid receiving TE while Steve Heiden had to step up and be our dual purpose TE.

    I'm not the guy in this discussion that needs an online persona nor am I the guy with all the guarantees. Having said that, somebody told this entire message board about a fight we were going to have in Nashville the week the Browns were in town. Take a guess at which one of us showed up for this challenge and which one did not. Thunder makes all the noise like you did but lightning does all the damage at warped speed like I did. Hoorta and Gipper remember your no show.

    I feel so bad for you Girlie that I actually gave your desperate effort the only green thatta boy I see on your behalf before your male cheerleaders from Pittsburgh show up to add to it.

  • Anybody remember the last first-round superstar that was injured all through training camp? Po G?

    WSS

  • I don't know but it's most likely Trent Richardson... but if I recall his rookie season was a pretty good one. Had we not traded him and instead improved our O-Line and got a real FB at the position, he might still be running. It's all relative and anything in the NFL can change without a moments notice. I think that it comes down to about one to two seconds and the ball being between one to two inches in a diffrent place. How many passes last year could have been knocked down? How many balls could have been punched out? How many fumbles could have been recovered or interceptions made? It comes down to the four fifteen minute quarters that take place once a week that determines what is remembered and what counts. Injuries will happen, people get hurt from one reason or another, if you are relying on one guy, unless him name has been Tom Brady, one guy will not make or break a team. It's a team effort and it's a game of inches. Why not us?

  • Anybody remember the last first-round superstar that was injured all through training camp? Po G?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Anybody remember the last first-round superstar that was injured all through training camp? Po G?

    WSS

    The report scrolling on the NFL channel is it is only a sprain and he will be ready for training camp. Perhaps a more appropriate question Steve is - how many superstars were made in June and July?

  • @ghoolie said:

    Again, FluteGirl argued with me incessantly that Winslow's microfracture was going to return him to like new.

    And yet we're still in search of our very first cut and paste of what I actually said from you. Should I be flattered at how hard you're trying and the lengths you've resorted to? The reality here between you and me is one of us has a pretty good background in football while the other has only worn a jock strap as the eye patch of his pirate costume on Halloween.

    So where are we Girlie? Oh yeah, Winslow's post op prognosis. While I'll admit I thought Winslow would be a great pick for us - I never thought multiple surgeries and staph infections would make him like new. That's just more of you desperately posting what you wished I said. He only made 1 Pro Bowl after all the surgeries and staph infections so he was only a solid receiving TE while Steve Heiden had to step up and be our dual purpose TE.

    I'm not the guy in this discussion that needs an online persona nor am I the guy with all the guarantees. Having said that, somebody told this entire message board about a fight we were going to have in Nashville the week the Browns were in town. Take a guess at which one of us showed up for this challenge and which one did not. Thunder makes all the noise like you did but lightning does all the damage at warped speed like I did. Hoorta and Gipper remember your no show.

    I feel so bad for you Girlie that I actually gave your desperate effort the only green thatta boy I see on your behalf before your male cheerleaders from Pittsburgh show up to add to it.

    @flugel said:

    The reality here between you and me is one of us has a pretty good background in football while the other has only worn a jock strap as the eye patch of his pirate costume on Halloween.

    Quite possibly one of the funniest things ever......

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/06/myles_garrett_foot.html

    Browns' Myles Garrett has lateral foot sprain, expected to be ready for training camp

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns caught a break Saturday regarding No. 1 overall pick Myles Garrett's injured left foot.
    Two doctors diagnosed him with a lateral foot sprain and he's expected to be ready for training camp in late July, the Browns announced Saturday.
    Garrett was first diagnosed by Browns head team physician Dr. James Voos of University Hospitals, and then as part of the team's process, by specialist Dr. Robert Anderson of OrthoCarolina, who did not examine him in person but reviewed the exams.
    It's good news for the Browns, who hoped that Garrett didn't sustain any major structural damage such as a fracture or Lisfranc injury after he went down in minicamp on Wednesday afternoon. A Lisfranc injury would've required surgery and up to a year-long recovery.
    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.
    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.
    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.
    The injury is a new sprain and not related to any previous injury. Garrett had been limited in organized team activities with what a source told cleveland.com was a sore foot that was also briefly immobilized in a boot.
    He also suffered a left high ankle sprain last season at Texas A&M that hampered him all season and limited him to 8 1/2 sacks.
    The No. 1 overall pick in the draft, Garrett injured it on the second day of minicamp and was photographed in the boot at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on Friday morning as he was leaving town for the summer break.
    It happened on a would-be sack of Brock Osweiler in a two-minute drill late in the non-contact practice when he stormed in off the edge. He immediately fell to his knees in pain, and clutched his left foot.
    He hobbled off the field and was examined on the sidelines, and later limped into the fieldhouse after the lightning sirens went off.
    Garrett was absent from the practice field on the last day of minicamp Thursday while he underwent further evaluation on the foot, and was also excused Friday morning from attending a youth clinic at FirstEnergy Stadium with his fellow rookies.
    The injury caused immediate concern because of Garrett's injury history with his left lower leg. Garrett had admitted that he was frustrated sitting out some of OTAs because he "wanted to be out there grinding'' with his teammates.
    Garrett suffered the injury after a minicamp sack of Brock Osweiler, but received treatment on the sidelines and didn't leave the field.
    Garrett's good friend and fellow rookie Larry Ogunjobi said Friday morning at the youth clinic that he was helping Garrett keep his spirits up.
    "It sucks, especially when he's one of your good friends,'' Ogunjobi said of seeing Garrett falls to his knees and grab his foot. "I've known Myles for just a short period of time, but we've connected and you know how good of a person he is because he's humble and he's hungry and really wants to be great. So you know it sucks, but it's part of the game. It's part of the process and you know he's going to bounce back.''
    He said Garrett is handling it well.
    "You know, same mentality, one day at a time,'' Ogunjobi said. "That's the nature of the game. That's just what it is. You kind of have to keep him in high spirits, you keep him going and you know he's good. He's still smiling, he's still feeling good. It's just part of life. You can't really be up and down. You've got to be even keel and just take it one day at a time.''
    First-round tight end David Njoku agreed that Garrett has had a a great attitude.
    "Myles is always a happy camper,'' he said. "So he's just fine."
    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with Garrett in the limited reps he's had since rookie minicamp last month.
    "He's done a great job,'' said Williams. "It's still way early, but you guys are going to see a pretty good football player when he gets a chance to get out there and go. I've got a big smile on my face, I'm just waiting to let him show everybody before I talk about him.''
    Defensive line coach Clyde Simmons is also eager for his return.
    "He's everything we (expected,)'' Simmons said. "Coach Jackson will handle all of the injury stuff. Myles is everything we expected."
    Garrett signed his fully guaranteed four-year deal worth $30.4 million on May 19th. It included a $20.258 million signing bonus and a club option for a fifth year.
    The Browns drafted Garrett No. 1 overall after his stellar career at Texas A&M, where he had 32 1/2 sacks in three seasons, which were tops in the country from 2014-16. He was also a two-time Lombardi Award finalist for the nation's best linebacker.
    Garrett had flashed some of that first-round explosiveness in spring practices.
    "(You see) a guy who's just ready to play,'' Ogunjobi said. "We work together when we do our position drills and stuff like that. You just see a guy who knows what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He's a guy you can learn a lot from.''
    Now, the Browns are hoping he'll pick up right where he left off, when he elicited a "Holy Smokes!'' from Jackson for his explosiveness off the edge.
  • @flugel said:

    Did he get staph from the surgery for the injury? If so, why wouldn't the injury be considered the beginning of the end? The body can't be a host without the knife... The knife isn't needed without the injury so I see the injury as pertinent here.

    Absolutely.......agree....cause & consequences....cant have one without the other.....

    True story that I will share......In 2013, I had a heart attack caused by a toothpick.....

    Myself and Mrs Mud are watching TV and I decide I need a snack....jump out of my chair and a toothpick stabs through my sock and into my foot....YOUCH!....went kinda deep too...call it a 1/2" mega splinter.....so I dig that log outta my foot, bitch a little bit and go get my snack....

    Next morning I wake up and step out of bed and.....whammo....ringing pain. I look down and my foot is swollen like a football and dark red.....red as fuck.....BUT the real scary part was the red lines racing up my leg.....and the green shit erupting from the now huge toothpick hole in the bottom of my foot.....Mrs Mudd has some medical background and said we are going to the hospital right now....this is bad......

    By 1 oclock I was being prepped for surgery....diagnosed with Necrotizing Fascitis....IE: flesh eating staph......and it was now upto my knee.......red lines racing upward.....

    Wake up much later......my foot bandaged and in a bag(no shit)....and several IV's attached.....Doc comes in and tells me I am in grave danger, with a life threatening infection....my foot is bagged and Im in isolation, due to the severity of my infection......and the IV's are some of the strongest cocktails available......he's says they removed the entire sole of my foot and much meat from the front pads, but for now, they decided to leave the foot and toes intact.....fingers crossed, this moves fast so we should know by tonight....(for real???)....he explains that this infection is liquefying me and they have to keep cutting the goo away....it was also into my blood stream and creating new issues, including fluid which was now building up around my heart.....and all Im thinking is WTF???.....all this cause I wanted snack?

    For the next 7 days, moved to ICU...multiple IV's and different cocktails, as the infection is not going away....fever....sickness.....a second surgery to remove more goo.....and true concern that this was gonna kill me.....and the Dr's didnt flinch about saying that was a real possibility....

    THEN.....things improved!....they found the right mix and it knocked the infection down....I was finally out of the woods and could go home and start recovering from the nasty wounds on my foot and ankle.....but it wasnt to be.....

    Just 3 days after arriving home, I was on line surfing....just a chill recovery day at home, in my jammies.....when, out of nowhere a freight train slams me in the chest and ricochets up my neck and down my (right) arm....yep, right......I saw stars and my ears were ringing.......and I knew some real bad shit was happening...... right now....

    Back to the hospital......heart attack 101......wont go on about the details, other than to say my heart was healthy....no disease....no clogged arteries....nothing......the prevailing "reasoning" was the infection, along with the intense drug treatments cause it.....

    So....in the end.....my foot is basically carved out.....still works, but aint the same...and have a complete clean bill of health on my heart, with no fear of repeat issues......

    The moral of this whole long long story?????....... 1 toothpick almost killed me twice

    Just like that knee injury almost killed Bentley and certainly ended his career.....

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    @mudfly said:

    Absolutely.......agree....cause & consequences....cant have one without the other.....

    True story that I will share......In 2013, I had a heart attack caused by a toothpick.....

    Myself and Mrs Mud are watching TV and I decide I need a snack....jump out of my chair and a toothpick stabs through my sock and into my foot....YOUCH!....went kinda deep too...call it a 1/2" mega splinter.....so I dig that log outta my foot, bitch a little bit and go get my snack....

    Next morning I wake up and step out of bed and.....whammo....ringing pain. I look down and my foot is swollen like a football and dark red.....red as fuck.....BUT the real scary part was the red lines racing up my leg.....and the green shit erupting from the now huge toothpick hole in the bottom of my foot.....Mrs Mudd has some medical background and said we are going to the hospital right now....this is bad......

    By 1 oclock I was being prepped for surgery....diagnosed with Necrotizing Fascitis....IE: flesh eating staph......and it was now upto my knee.......red lines racing upward.....

    Wake up much later......my foot bandaged and in a bag(no shit)....and several IV's attached.....Doc comes in and tells me I am in grave danger, with a life threatening infection....

    Wow! Thanks for sharing that. That's a terrifying series of events to go through Mud. Thank God that didn't end your life my man.

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/06/myles_garrett_foot.html

    Browns' Myles Garrett has lateral foot sprain, expected to be ready for training camp

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns caught a break Saturday regarding No. 1 overall pick Myles Garrett's injured left foot.
    Two doctors diagnosed him with a lateral foot sprain and he's expected to be ready for training camp in late July, the Browns announced Saturday.
    Garrett was first diagnosed by Browns head team physician Dr. James Voos of University Hospitals, and then as part of the team's process, by specialist Dr. Robert Anderson of OrthoCarolina, who did not examine him in person but reviewed the exams.
    It's good news for the Browns, who hoped that Garrett didn't sustain any major structural damage such as a fracture or Lisfranc injury after he went down in minicamp on Wednesday afternoon. A Lisfranc injury would've required surgery and up to a year-long recovery.
    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.
    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.
    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.
    The injury is a new sprain and not related to any previous injury. Garrett had been limited in organized team activities with what a source told cleveland.com was a sore foot that was also briefly immobilized in a boot.
    He also suffered a left high ankle sprain last season at Texas A&M that hampered him all season and limited him to 8 1/2 sacks.
    The No. 1 overall pick in the draft, Garrett injured it on the second day of minicamp and was photographed in the boot at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on Friday morning as he was leaving town for the summer break.
    It happened on a would-be sack of Brock Osweiler in a two-minute drill late in the non-contact practice when he stormed in off the edge. He immediately fell to his knees in pain, and clutched his left foot.
    He hobbled off the field and was examined on the sidelines, and later limped into the fieldhouse after the lightning sirens went off.
    Garrett was absent from the practice field on the last day of minicamp Thursday while he underwent further evaluation on the foot, and was also excused Friday morning from attending a youth clinic at FirstEnergy Stadium with his fellow rookies.
    The injury caused immediate concern because of Garrett's injury history with his left lower leg. Garrett had admitted that he was frustrated sitting out some of OTAs because he "wanted to be out there grinding'' with his teammates.
    Garrett suffered the injury after a minicamp sack of Brock Osweiler, but received treatment on the sidelines and didn't leave the field.
    Garrett's good friend and fellow rookie Larry Ogunjobi said Friday morning at the youth clinic that he was helping Garrett keep his spirits up.
    "It sucks, especially when he's one of your good friends,'' Ogunjobi said of seeing Garrett falls to his knees and grab his foot. "I've known Myles for just a short period of time, but we've connected and you know how good of a person he is because he's humble and he's hungry and really wants to be great. So you know it sucks, but it's part of the game. It's part of the process and you know he's going to bounce back.''
    He said Garrett is handling it well.
    "You know, same mentality, one day at a time,'' Ogunjobi said. "That's the nature of the game. That's just what it is. You kind of have to keep him in high spirits, you keep him going and you know he's good. He's still smiling, he's still feeling good. It's just part of life. You can't really be up and down. You've got to be even keel and just take it one day at a time.''
    First-round tight end David Njoku agreed that Garrett has had a a great attitude.
    "Myles is always a happy camper,'' he said. "So he's just fine."
    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with Garrett in the limited reps he's had since rookie minicamp last month.
    "He's done a great job,'' said Williams. "It's still way early, but you guys are going to see a pretty good football player when he gets a chance to get out there and go. I've got a big smile on my face, I'm just waiting to let him show everybody before I talk about him.''
    Defensive line coach Clyde Simmons is also eager for his return.
    "He's everything we (expected,)'' Simmons said. "Coach Jackson will handle all of the injury stuff. Myles is everything we expected."
    Garrett signed his fully guaranteed four-year deal worth $30.4 million on May 19th. It included a $20.258 million signing bonus and a club option for a fifth year.
    The Browns drafted Garrett No. 1 overall after his stellar career at Texas A&M, where he had 32 1/2 sacks in three seasons, which were tops in the country from 2014-16. He was also a two-time Lombardi Award finalist for the nation's best linebacker.
    Garrett had flashed some of that first-round explosiveness in spring practices.
    "(You see) a guy who's just ready to play,'' Ogunjobi said. "We work together when we do our position drills and stuff like that. You just see a guy who knows what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He's a guy you can learn a lot from.''
    Now, the Browns are hoping he'll pick up right where he left off, when he elicited a "Holy Smokes!'' from Jackson for his explosiveness off the edge.

    @d-bone said:

    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.

    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.
    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.
    "Holy Smokes!''

    Thanks D, Whew,Rare the Browns catch a brake at anytime, Yes i mean brake 😛. Pre-season..8-10 saints..8-21 NYG(mnf)[email protected] [email protected] is 9-10.(maybe NYG or TB?,doubt he plays at bears)

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Staph ended Bentleys career. Wasn't the injury.

    Did he get staph from the surgery for the injury? If so, why wouldn't the injury be considered the beginning of the end? The body can't be a host without the knife... The knife isn't needed without the injury so I see the injury as pertinent here.

    @flugel said:

    Did he get staph from the surgery for the injury? If so, why wouldn't the injury be considered the beginning of the end? The body can't be a host without the knife... The knife isn't needed without the injury so I see the injury as pertinent here.

    The environment after the surgery. Which, I might add, was rather routine.

    So...yeah. staph.

  • @flugel said:

    Did he get staph from the surgery for the injury? If so, why wouldn't the injury be considered the beginning of the end? The body can't be a host without the knife... The knife isn't needed without the injury so I see the injury as pertinent here.

    The environment after the surgery. Which, I might add, was rather routine.

    So...yeah. staph.

    @tiamat63 said:

    The environment after the surgery. Which, I might add, was rather routine.

    So...yeah. staph.

    While you made a very good point T - does he get the staph infection if he never has the surgery for the knee injury? No.

    According to an article I read by Rick Stroud & Greg Auman titled "Ex-Browns tell of staph infection anguish", Bentley contracted MRSA at the Browns training facility while recovering from surgery. The wound/incision became the opportunity for the infection to enter the host (Bentley) and it was game over, career over with a threat life could be over.

  • All I want to know Mud is did you tell the surgeon going in.............................?

  • All I want to know Mud is did you tell the surgeon going in.............................?

    @texasag1969 said:

    All I want to know Mud is did you tell the surgeon going in.............................?

    HA!...one of my alllllllllllllllll time favorites.....right there......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/06/myles_garrett_foot.html

    Browns' Myles Garrett has lateral foot sprain, expected to be ready for training camp

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns caught a break Saturday regarding No. 1 overall pick Myles Garrett's injured left foot.
    Two doctors diagnosed him with a lateral foot sprain and he's expected to be ready for training camp in late July, the Browns announced Saturday.
    Garrett was first diagnosed by Browns head team physician Dr. James Voos of University Hospitals, and then as part of the team's process, by specialist Dr. Robert Anderson of OrthoCarolina, who did not examine him in person but reviewed the exams.
    It's good news for the Browns, who hoped that Garrett didn't sustain any major structural damage such as a fracture or Lisfranc injury after he went down in minicamp on Wednesday afternoon. A Lisfranc injury would've required surgery and up to a year-long recovery.
    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.
    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.
    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.
    The injury is a new sprain and not related to any previous injury. Garrett had been limited in organized team activities with what a source told cleveland.com was a sore foot that was also briefly immobilized in a boot.
    He also suffered a left high ankle sprain last season at Texas A&M that hampered him all season and limited him to 8 1/2 sacks.
    The No. 1 overall pick in the draft, Garrett injured it on the second day of minicamp and was photographed in the boot at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on Friday morning as he was leaving town for the summer break.
    It happened on a would-be sack of Brock Osweiler in a two-minute drill late in the non-contact practice when he stormed in off the edge. He immediately fell to his knees in pain, and clutched his left foot.
    He hobbled off the field and was examined on the sidelines, and later limped into the fieldhouse after the lightning sirens went off.
    Garrett was absent from the practice field on the last day of minicamp Thursday while he underwent further evaluation on the foot, and was also excused Friday morning from attending a youth clinic at FirstEnergy Stadium with his fellow rookies.
    The injury caused immediate concern because of Garrett's injury history with his left lower leg. Garrett had admitted that he was frustrated sitting out some of OTAs because he "wanted to be out there grinding'' with his teammates.
    Garrett suffered the injury after a minicamp sack of Brock Osweiler, but received treatment on the sidelines and didn't leave the field.
    Garrett's good friend and fellow rookie Larry Ogunjobi said Friday morning at the youth clinic that he was helping Garrett keep his spirits up.
    "It sucks, especially when he's one of your good friends,'' Ogunjobi said of seeing Garrett falls to his knees and grab his foot. "I've known Myles for just a short period of time, but we've connected and you know how good of a person he is because he's humble and he's hungry and really wants to be great. So you know it sucks, but it's part of the game. It's part of the process and you know he's going to bounce back.''
    He said Garrett is handling it well.
    "You know, same mentality, one day at a time,'' Ogunjobi said. "That's the nature of the game. That's just what it is. You kind of have to keep him in high spirits, you keep him going and you know he's good. He's still smiling, he's still feeling good. It's just part of life. You can't really be up and down. You've got to be even keel and just take it one day at a time.''
    First-round tight end David Njoku agreed that Garrett has had a a great attitude.
    "Myles is always a happy camper,'' he said. "So he's just fine."
    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with Garrett in the limited reps he's had since rookie minicamp last month.
    "He's done a great job,'' said Williams. "It's still way early, but you guys are going to see a pretty good football player when he gets a chance to get out there and go. I've got a big smile on my face, I'm just waiting to let him show everybody before I talk about him.''
    Defensive line coach Clyde Simmons is also eager for his return.
    "He's everything we (expected,)'' Simmons said. "Coach Jackson will handle all of the injury stuff. Myles is everything we expected."
    Garrett signed his fully guaranteed four-year deal worth $30.4 million on May 19th. It included a $20.258 million signing bonus and a club option for a fifth year.
    The Browns drafted Garrett No. 1 overall after his stellar career at Texas A&M, where he had 32 1/2 sacks in three seasons, which were tops in the country from 2014-16. He was also a two-time Lombardi Award finalist for the nation's best linebacker.
    Garrett had flashed some of that first-round explosiveness in spring practices.
    "(You see) a guy who's just ready to play,'' Ogunjobi said. "We work together when we do our position drills and stuff like that. You just see a guy who knows what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He's a guy you can learn a lot from.''
    Now, the Browns are hoping he'll pick up right where he left off, when he elicited a "Holy Smokes!'' from Jackson for his explosiveness off the edge.

    @d-bone said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/06/myles_garrett_foot.html

    Browns' Myles Garrett has lateral foot sprain, expected to be ready for training camp

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns caught a break Saturday regarding No. 1 overall pick Myles Garrett's injured left foot.

    Two doctors diagnosed him with a lateral foot sprain and he's expected to be ready for training camp in late July, the Browns announced Saturday.

    Garrett was first diagnosed by Browns head team physician Dr. James Voos of University Hospitals, and then as part of the team's process, by specialist Dr. Robert Anderson of OrthoCarolina, who did not examine him in person but reviewed the exams.

    It's good news for the Browns, who hoped that Garrett didn't sustain any major structural damage such as a fracture or Lisfranc injury after he went down in minicamp on Wednesday afternoon. A Lisfranc injury would've required surgery and up to a year-long recovery.

    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.

    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.

    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.

    The injury is a new sprain and not related to any previous injury. Garrett had been limited in organized team activities with what a source told cleveland.com was a sore foot that was also briefly immobilized in a boot.

    He also suffered a left high ankle sprain last season at Texas A&M that hampered him all season and limited him to 8 1/2 sacks.

    The No. 1 overall pick in the draft, Garrett injured it on the second day of minicamp and was photographed in the boot at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on Friday morning as he was leaving town for the summer break.

    It happened on a would-be sack of Brock Osweiler in a two-minute drill late in the non-contact practice when he stormed in off the edge. He immediately fell to his knees in pain, and clutched his left foot.

    He hobbled off the field and was examined on the sidelines, and later limped into the fieldhouse after the lightning sirens went off.

    Garrett was absent from the practice field on the last day of minicamp Thursday while he underwent further evaluation on the foot, and was also excused Friday morning from attending a youth clinic at FirstEnergy Stadium with his fellow rookies.

    The injury caused immediate concern because of Garrett's injury history with his left lower leg. Garrett had admitted that he was frustrated sitting out some of OTAs because he "wanted to be out there grinding'' with his teammates.

    Garrett suffered the injury after a minicamp sack of Brock Osweiler, but received treatment on the sidelines and didn't leave the field.

    Garrett's good friend and fellow rookie Larry Ogunjobi said Friday morning at the youth clinic that he was helping Garrett keep his spirits up.

    "It sucks, especially when he's one of your good friends,'' Ogunjobi said of seeing Garrett falls to his knees and grab his foot. "I've known Myles for just a short period of time, but we've connected and you know how good of a person he is because he's humble and he's hungry and really wants to be great. So you know it sucks, but it's part of the game. It's part of the process and you know he's going to bounce back.''

    He said Garrett is handling it well.

    "You know, same mentality, one day at a time,'' Ogunjobi said. "That's the nature of the game. That's just what it is. You kind of have to keep him in high spirits, you keep him going and you know he's good. He's still smiling, he's still feeling good. It's just part of life. You can't really be up and down. You've got to be even keel and just take it one day at a time.''

    First-round tight end David Njoku agreed that Garrett has had a a great attitude.

    "Myles is always a happy camper,'' he said. "So he's just fine."

    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with Garrett in the limited reps he's had since rookie minicamp last month.

    "He's done a great job,'' said Williams. "It's still way early, but you guys are going to see a pretty good football player when he gets a chance to get out there and go. I've got a big smile on my face, I'm just waiting to let him show everybody before I talk about him.''

    Defensive line coach Clyde Simmons is also eager for his return.

    "He's everything we (expected,)'' Simmons said. "Coach Jackson will handle all of the injury stuff. Myles is everything we expected."

    Garrett signed his fully guaranteed four-year deal worth $30.4 million on May 19th. It included a $20.258 million signing bonus and a club option for a fifth year.

    The Browns drafted Garrett No. 1 overall after his stellar career at Texas A&M, where he had 32 1/2 sacks in three seasons, which were tops in the country from 2014-16. He was also a two-time Lombardi Award finalist for the nation's best linebacker.

    Garrett had flashed some of that first-round explosiveness in spring practices.

    "(You see) a guy who's just ready to play,'' Ogunjobi said. "We work together when we do our position drills and stuff like that. You just see a guy who knows what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He's a guy you can learn a lot from.''

    Now, the Browns are hoping he'll pick up right where he left off, when he elicited a "Holy Smokes!'' from Jackson for his explosiveness off the edge.

    I won't be convinced he's ok til I see him get through camp without a limp.
  • @d-bone said:

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/06/myles_garrett_foot.html

    Browns' Myles Garrett has lateral foot sprain, expected to be ready for training camp

    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns caught a break Saturday regarding No. 1 overall pick Myles Garrett's injured left foot.

    Two doctors diagnosed him with a lateral foot sprain and he's expected to be ready for training camp in late July, the Browns announced Saturday.

    Garrett was first diagnosed by Browns head team physician Dr. James Voos of University Hospitals, and then as part of the team's process, by specialist Dr. Robert Anderson of OrthoCarolina, who did not examine him in person but reviewed the exams.

    It's good news for the Browns, who hoped that Garrett didn't sustain any major structural damage such as a fracture or Lisfranc injury after he went down in minicamp on Wednesday afternoon. A Lisfranc injury would've required surgery and up to a year-long recovery.

    As it is, a patient with Garrett's diagnosis can expect to be about 80% in about four to six weeks, and fully recovered within three months, depending on the severity of the partial or complete tear of the soft tissue in the foot, according an independent foot and ankle surgeon who has not examined Garrett.

    Garrett is currently in a walking boot and will receive treatment on the ankle over the next six weeks. He'll have to rest it for awhile, but will gradually work his way back into shape for camp, which is set to begin on July 27th.

    Garrett will likely be eased back into action in camp, and not full-go right away.

    The injury is a new sprain and not related to any previous injury. Garrett had been limited in organized team activities with what a source told cleveland.com was a sore foot that was also briefly immobilized in a boot.

    He also suffered a left high ankle sprain last season at Texas A&M that hampered him all season and limited him to 8 1/2 sacks.

    The No. 1 overall pick in the draft, Garrett injured it on the second day of minicamp and was photographed in the boot at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on Friday morning as he was leaving town for the summer break.

    It happened on a would-be sack of Brock Osweiler in a two-minute drill late in the non-contact practice when he stormed in off the edge. He immediately fell to his knees in pain, and clutched his left foot.

    He hobbled off the field and was examined on the sidelines, and later limped into the fieldhouse after the lightning sirens went off.

    Garrett was absent from the practice field on the last day of minicamp Thursday while he underwent further evaluation on the foot, and was also excused Friday morning from attending a youth clinic at FirstEnergy Stadium with his fellow rookies.

    The injury caused immediate concern because of Garrett's injury history with his left lower leg. Garrett had admitted that he was frustrated sitting out some of OTAs because he "wanted to be out there grinding'' with his teammates.

    Garrett suffered the injury after a minicamp sack of Brock Osweiler, but received treatment on the sidelines and didn't leave the field.

    Garrett's good friend and fellow rookie Larry Ogunjobi said Friday morning at the youth clinic that he was helping Garrett keep his spirits up.

    "It sucks, especially when he's one of your good friends,'' Ogunjobi said of seeing Garrett falls to his knees and grab his foot. "I've known Myles for just a short period of time, but we've connected and you know how good of a person he is because he's humble and he's hungry and really wants to be great. So you know it sucks, but it's part of the game. It's part of the process and you know he's going to bounce back.''

    He said Garrett is handling it well.

    "You know, same mentality, one day at a time,'' Ogunjobi said. "That's the nature of the game. That's just what it is. You kind of have to keep him in high spirits, you keep him going and you know he's good. He's still smiling, he's still feeling good. It's just part of life. You can't really be up and down. You've got to be even keel and just take it one day at a time.''

    First-round tight end David Njoku agreed that Garrett has had a a great attitude.

    "Myles is always a happy camper,'' he said. "So he's just fine."

    Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been impressed with Garrett in the limited reps he's had since rookie minicamp last month.

    "He's done a great job,'' said Williams. "It's still way early, but you guys are going to see a pretty good football player when he gets a chance to get out there and go. I've got a big smile on my face, I'm just waiting to let him show everybody before I talk about him.''

    Defensive line coach Clyde Simmons is also eager for his return.

    "He's everything we (expected,)'' Simmons said. "Coach Jackson will handle all of the injury stuff. Myles is everything we expected."

    Garrett signed his fully guaranteed four-year deal worth $30.4 million on May 19th. It included a $20.258 million signing bonus and a club option for a fifth year.

    The Browns drafted Garrett No. 1 overall after his stellar career at Texas A&M, where he had 32 1/2 sacks in three seasons, which were tops in the country from 2014-16. He was also a two-time Lombardi Award finalist for the nation's best linebacker.

    Garrett had flashed some of that first-round explosiveness in spring practices.

    "(You see) a guy who's just ready to play,'' Ogunjobi said. "We work together when we do our position drills and stuff like that. You just see a guy who knows what he wants to do and how he wants to do it. He's a guy you can learn a lot from.''

    Now, the Browns are hoping he'll pick up right where he left off, when he elicited a "Holy Smokes!'' from Jackson for his explosiveness off the edge.

    I won't be convinced he's ok til I see him get through camp without a limp.

    @topdawg31 said:

    I won't be convinced he's ok til I see him get through camp without a limp.

    Id be curious what you would say if Trubs went down with a sprained ankle?.....just one of those things?.....or bad pick?

    Myles ankle injury cannot be an "I told you so moment", unless of course you predicted it......and, if memory serves me, you are the one who was just saying he had a broken foot or needed surgery....correct?....

    Its a sprain guys......and NOT a high sprain, which is what he suffered in college.....AND STILL played well enough to be the consensus #1 pick......which, to me, just shows he's tough and driven....cause he played through it(at a high level)......while most would be sitting.....

  • Anybody remember the last first-round superstar that was injured all through training camp? Po G?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Anybody remember the last first-round superstar that was injured all through training camp? Po G?

    WSS

    Clowney I believe.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    I won't be convinced he's ok til I see him get through camp without a limp.

    Id be curious what you would say if Trubs went down with a sprained ankle?.....just one of those things?.....or bad pick?

    Myles ankle injury cannot be an "I told you so moment", unless of course you predicted it......and, if memory serves me, you are the one who was just saying he had a broken foot or needed surgery....correct?....

    Its a sprain guys......and NOT a high sprain, which is what he suffered in college.....AND STILL played well enough to be the consensus #1 pick......which, to me, just shows he's tough and driven....cause he played through it(at a high level)......while most would be sitting.....

    @mudfly said:

    Id be curious what you would say if Trubs went down with a sprained ankle?.....just one of those things?.....or bad pick?

    Myles ankle injury cannot be an "I told you so moment", unless of course you predicted it......and, if memory serves me, you are the one who was just saying he had a broken foot or needed surgery....correct?....

    Its a sprain guys......and NOT a high sprain, which is what he suffered in college.....AND STILL played well enough to be the consensus #1 pick......which, to me, just shows he's tough and driven....cause he played through it(at a high level)......while most would be sitting.....

    Kinda like your tooth pick story Mud, I had a fractured navicular bone that took 4 yrs to correctly diagnose. I would wake up in the morning feeling fine, but by the end of the day I could not walk without a severe limp. The reason it took 4yrs was because of it being misdiagnosed. I finally went to the doctor that fixed Z's foot at the Cle Clinic and in one day had the correct diagnosis. Surgery, 2 months in a hard cast then a walking boot. Hence the reason why i won't believe it til I see it.