An FA I Would be interested in... Zach Orr, Former Raven OLB
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Whats one more pain in my neck watching a Browns game?
1 spot out of our 90 man roster, Orr fits in top 25 of are 90. Bye-Bye 1 Kicker.hell we never had a kicker on roster this time last season..Risky.. but what do we got to lose besides more games.. Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
I just saw the article on ESPN and thought he'd be a great addition.
Correct me if I'm wrong, don't the Ravens still own his rights?
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Whats one more pain in my neck watching a Browns game?
1 spot out of our 90 man roster, Orr fits in top 25 of are 90. Bye-Bye 1 Kicker.hell we never had a kicker on roster this time last season..Risky.. but what do we got to lose besides more games.. Whats one more pain in my neck watching a Browns game?
1 spot out of our 90 man roster, Orr fits in top 25 of are 90. Bye-Bye 1 Kicker.hell we never had a kicker on roster this time last season..Risky.. but what do we got to lose besides more games..Edit--Spottrac now has Orr as a FA,Tia The issue is would he fit on to the 53 man roster, not the 90 man.
I have no problem if he were to be brought in and competed for a roster...or even starting spot. This team cannot overlook good talent....no matter the source IMO.
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Was he 3-4 olb'er in blt? If so maybe he's notbthe best fit in our 4-3?
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He's a young, talented player and I would love nothing more than for him to come here and become a dominant LB for 10 years.
But your body doesn't magically heal itself of something like that. If he's able to pass a physical, I'd say absolutely. But I'd always be worried he's one hit away from becoming Jason Street.
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Ravens DC for many years is Dean Pees.His base defense is a 3-4. but allows Suggs to roam while McClellan,Mosley & Orr played 3 LB base. Ravens drafted Bowser & Tim Williams to replace Orr..As T stated, Orr even at West Texas has a hell of a nose for the ball carrier, he's only 25,roster-ed at ILB with Ravens but his coverage numbers are outstanding inside or out as a LB. Luke Kuegley coverege good imo
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He's a young, talented player and I would love nothing more than for him to come here and become a dominant LB for 10 years.
But your body doesn't magically heal itself of something like that. If he's able to pass a physical, I'd say absolutely. But I'd always be worried he's one hit away from becoming Jason Street.
He's a young, talented player and I would love nothing more than for him to come here and become a dominant LB for 10 years.
But your body doesn't magically heal itself of something like that. If he's able to pass a physical, I'd say absolutely. But I'd always be worried he's one hit away from becoming Jason Street.
From what I read he never was injured, a congenital spinal curvature was detected that one Dr. thought put him at risk for paralysis.
Since then he's gotten other opinions that he is in no such immediate danger, even if he herniated a disc. The danger would rise if he continues playing from that point.
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He's young, he's good... really good... and he's rescinding his recent medical retirement for a congenital neck/spine condition. Second opinions have informed him that so long as he stays clear of herniated discs, his congenital defect is of no threat to him.
He'd let Kirk return to the middle... hell... with 130+tackles and being among the league leading LBs in pass Defense, he'd kick Kirk back inside.
He's young, he's good... really good... and he's rescinding his recent medical retirement for a congenital neck/spine condition. Second opinions have informed him that so long as he stays clear of herniated discs, his congenital defect is of no threat to him.
He'd let Kirk return to the middle... hell... with 130+tackles and being among the league leading LBs in pass Defense, he'd kick Kirk back inside.
Is there a difference between inside and the middle?
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coming back to play after wolverine titanium steroid spinal implants.
let's sign spiderman 2, 3, 4 or the new redux!
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He's a young, talented player and I would love nothing more than for him to come here and become a dominant LB for 10 years.
But your body doesn't magically heal itself of something like that. If he's able to pass a physical, I'd say absolutely. But I'd always be worried he's one hit away from becoming Jason Street.
From what I read he never was injured, a congenital spinal curvature was detected that one Dr. thought put him at risk for paralysis.
Since then he's gotten other opinions that he is in no such immediate danger, even if he herniated a disc. The danger would rise if he continues playing from that point.
From what I read he never was injured, a congenital spinal curvature was detected that one Dr. thought put him at risk for paralysis.
Since then he's gotten other opinions that he is in no such immediate danger, even if he herniated a disc. The danger would rise if he continues playing from that point.
It's more than a curvature, it's a spinal curvature caused by a malformed vertebrae. His C1 vertebrae never fully formed.
In his retirement speech, he claimed he had seen multiple doctors and spinal specialists who were shocked he was able to play. Even if he's over exaggerating, I'm sure he saw at least two doctors who advised him not to play.
I fully believe a person should be able to choose their own fate, so I'm not saying he SHOULDNT be allowed to play. But I just don't see how he went from retiring to coming back at the drop of a hat.
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From what I read he never was injured, a congenital spinal curvature was detected that one Dr. thought put him at risk for paralysis.
Since then he's gotten other opinions that he is in no such immediate danger, even if he herniated a disc. The danger would rise if he continues playing from that point.
It's more than a curvature, it's a spinal curvature caused by a malformed vertebrae. His C1 vertebrae never fully formed.
In his retirement speech, he claimed he had seen multiple doctors and spinal specialists who were shocked he was able to play. Even if he's over exaggerating, I'm sure he saw at least two doctors who advised him not to play.
I fully believe a person should be able to choose their own fate, so I'm not saying he SHOULDNT be allowed to play. But I just don't see how he went from retiring to coming back at the drop of a hat.
It's more than a curvature, it's a spinal curvature caused by a malformed vertebrae. His C1 vertebrae never fully formed.
In his retirement speech, he claimed he had seen multiple doctors and spinal specialists who were shocked he was able to play. Even if he's over exaggerating, I'm sure he saw at least two doctors who advised him not to play.
I fully believe a person should be able to choose their own fate, so I'm not saying he SHOULDNT be allowed to play. But I just don't see how he went from retiring to coming back at the drop of a hat.
What worries me more is his MOTIVATION to return. I keep reading/hearing of the high number of players going bankrupt soon after retirement from the NFL. If this kid is returning & risking his health over finances, that, to me, is a concern & a heavy weight to bear for the Team signing him. I would want to know a LOT more about those "2nd opinions" & check him with a fine toothed comb before signing him. The Browns seem to be regaining respect around the NFL. That respect could vanish quickly with a bad decision here.
Mike
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It's more than a curvature, it's a spinal curvature caused by a malformed vertebrae. His C1 vertebrae never fully formed.
In his retirement speech, he claimed he had seen multiple doctors and spinal specialists who were shocked he was able to play. Even if he's over exaggerating, I'm sure he saw at least two doctors who advised him not to play.
I fully believe a person should be able to choose their own fate, so I'm not saying he SHOULDNT be allowed to play. But I just don't see how he went from retiring to coming back at the drop of a hat.
What worries me more is his MOTIVATION to return. I keep reading/hearing of the high number of players going bankrupt soon after retirement from the NFL. If this kid is returning & risking his health over finances, that, to me, is a concern & a heavy weight to bear for the Team signing him. I would want to know a LOT more about those "2nd opinions" & check him with a fine toothed comb before signing him. The Browns seem to be regaining respect around the NFL. That respect could vanish quickly with a bad decision here.
Mike
I would want to know a LOT more about those "2nd opinions" check him with a fine toothed comb before signing him. The Browns seem to be regaining respect around the NFL. That respect could vanish quickly with a bad decision here.
Mike
Lions kept him 2 days just for that fine tooth comb reason.Teams own medical check. Off to Colts & Jets next..thought I would leave this here http://nydn.us/2rxjT7o After Gipson hit he never returned to the game. Finley was asked about Orr's return today..Finley said "don't do it for the money, Say No for your Family"
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