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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    Well stated Flugs!

  • V VikingDawg wrote on last edited by

    Yeah I don't really get the Flugel hate, the guy knows football and even if there is disagreement at least the guy will engage in a vigorous debate with you about his position. I may disagree but at least his posts make me really think on what I am disagreeing with.

  • Yeah I don't really get the Flugel hate, the guy knows football and even if there is disagreement at least the guy will engage in a vigorous debate with you about his position. I may disagree but at least his posts make me really think on what I am disagreeing with.

    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by

    @vikingdawg said:

    Yeah I don't really get the Flugel hate, the guy knows football and even if there is disagreement at least the guy will engage in a vigorous debate with you about his position. I may disagree but at least his posts make me really think on what I am disagreeing with.

    That's the whole point of debate... If you can learn something from your opponent.. You might do better in your retort.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by

    Having Bruce Smith as a mentor is nothing but GOOD!

    Mike

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969

    From the article published yesterday: “You come in at 6 (a.m), you leave at 6 or 7 (p.m). You have got to be fully in-tune with what you’re doing. You’ve got to make sure you know what you are doing every time you come out here. It’s a job application. You’re putting your resume on the line and showing what you want to put out there on film every single day, so you have to make sure you put out something good.” — Garrett on the transition to the NFL

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Rookie-Reflection-Myles-Garrett-impresses-Browns-with-work-ethic-humility/e9936949-bd94-42c8-8003-

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    Also from the article: Williams said last month. “I have a big smile on my face and I will just wait and let him show everybody before I talk about it.”

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    Sure sounds like Bruce Smith mentoring is already paying attitude dividends here.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    Sounds good, but lets see if that foot is ready for 16+ games......

  • Sounds good, but lets see if that foot is ready for 16+ games......

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @d-bone said:

    Sounds good, but lets see if that foot is ready for 16+ games......

    Guys like Orchard, Nassib and D.Bryant should be able to provide a fresh legs rotation for Garrett and Ogbah.

  • @d-bone said:

    Sounds good, but lets see if that foot is ready for 16+ games......

    Guys like Orchard, Nassib and D.Bryant should be able to provide a fresh legs rotation for Garrett and Ogbah.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Guys like Orchard, Nassib and D.Bryant should be able to provide a fresh legs rotation for Garrett and Ogbah.

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    Clearly we need to add a marathon to the Combine...

  • @flugel said:

    Guys like Orchard, Nassib and D.Bryant should be able to provide a fresh legs rotation for Garrett and Ogbah.

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @westside-steve said:

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    Sorry Flugs, but sensible does not fit panic mode for Browns fans. 😛

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

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    This right here

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    This one seems easy......though none of us know what the injury actually is......(which is my only worry.....if it was a tiny issue, wouldnt they just say what it is????.....and since they are "mum".....I do worry.....)

    In the end, I say....if he's healed, play him.....and if he's not, then dont.......it's really not too complex.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    @mudfly said:

    This one seems easy......though none of us know what the injury actually is......(which is my only worry.....if it was a tiny issue, wouldnt they just say what it is????.....and since they are "mum".....I do worry.....)

    In the end, I say....if he's healed, play him.....and if he's not, then dont.......it's really not too complex.

    Garrett was the "slam dunk" #1 pick. If he sits through an injury, he is STILL worth the #1 pick.

    While I want him to play ASAP, I definitely don't want further injury.....PATIENCE is the key word.

    Mike

  • This one seems easy......though none of us know what the injury actually is......(which is my only worry.....if it was a tiny issue, wouldnt they just say what it is????.....and since they are "mum".....I do worry.....)

    In the end, I say....if he's healed, play him.....and if he's not, then dont.......it's really not too complex.

    GhoolieG Ghoolie wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    This one seems easy......though none of us know what the injury actually is......(which is my only worry.....if it was a tiny issue, wouldnt they just say what it is????.....and since they are "mum".....I do worry.....)

    In the end, I say....if he's healed, play him.....and if he's not, then dont.......it's really not too complex.

    Makes perfect sense. However what burns my ass is that there are so many variables and reasons for reporting on players this time of you, how is a fan to know what the truth is? Homers think he is just fine, naysayers predict the foot is a huge issue. Management plays games to trick opponents, agents hide shit to make more money, execs hide the truth to avoid looking as if they blew a pick.

    It amounts to us speculating about something we really have no way to know what is really going on.

    Training camp can likewise be used as camouflage, although it tells a bit more, likewise, preseason tells us a bit more. By the regular season, teams still feed bullshit to the fans, but this kind of thing is harder to hide. If he is indeed plagued with a chronic problem the team will minimize it in the event of trying to unload the guy, obviously trading a rookie is not on the table, but I mean in general, the information on this kind of shit, is generally polluted with hidden agendas that we never really know about.

    I am fucking sick of curses, mistakes, Red Right 88 and pictures of old women naked. I vote on the side of....the guy is ready to kick ass and bounce rapist quarterbacks.

    Did you ever see the movie Tremors? Training camps to me is like one of those huge boulders the actors jumped on for safety. The open ground where the worms could eat you is the media shit we have to dance around in.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes I'm sure they could. Still that's not the reason we spent the 1st pic over all is it?

    WSS

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    Of this 2 options yes number 2 is the only sensible one. That doesn't mean it's a good option, just the only 1. Death by n'gowa If you remember the joke. Sure rest up miles. Sit around until l training camp, maybe even all through training camp And when you finally do get into a game situation you won't be in shape, at least not as conditioned as if you'd gone through training camp. And then we know what happens.

    Anyway I'm not trying to be 2 dam negative but this does bum me out. Like spending your life savings on a Brand-new Porsche that breaks down before you get home.

    WSS

  • @flugel said:

    Well, we can take 2 routes with this kind of important investment:

    1) Completely ignore the foot injury and play him every single down.

    2) Treat it how the Chargers treated their 3rd overall pick (Joey Bosa) last year when he had a hammy injury so they used a time table and a rotation until he was ready for the overwhelming majority of snaps. Looked like it worked too!

    #2 looks like a very sensible approach to me.

    Of this 2 options yes number 2 is the only sensible one. That doesn't mean it's a good option, just the only 1. Death by n'gowa If you remember the joke. Sure rest up miles. Sit around until l training camp, maybe even all through training camp And when you finally do get into a game situation you won't be in shape, at least not as conditioned as if you'd gone through training camp. And then we know what happens.

    Anyway I'm not trying to be 2 dam negative but this does bum me out. Like spending your life savings on a Brand-new Porsche that breaks down before you get home.

    WSS

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel

    @westside-steve said:

    Of this 2 options yes number 2 is the only sensible one. That doesn't mean it's a good option, just the only 1. Death by n'gowa If you remember the joke. Sure rest up miles. Sit around until l training camp, maybe even all through training camp And when you finally do get into a game situation you won't be in shape, at least not as conditioned as if you'd gone through training camp. And then we know what happens.

    Anyway I'm not trying to be 2 dam negative but this does bum me out. Like spending your life savings on a Brand-new Porsche that breaks down before you get home.

    WSS

    Steve, I totally get the frustration and worry people have about it.

    Having said that, rookies never have an offseason or any recuperation period to heal up. As soon as their Bowl Games are finished, it's pedal to the metal to prepare for the best possible results at the Indy Combines. Some guys that aren't elite or projecting for upper round one spots have to go play in a college all star game after a week full of practices against other all stars before they get to prepare for the Indy Combines.

    Once the Indy Combines are completed, guys get ready for their Pro Days. If anyone listened to Garrett's presser when all 3 of our first round guys were getting interviewed by the media - Garrett spoke of his reluctance to do the pro day mentioning he was sore. Jeff Fisher encouraged him to do the Pro Day in spite of it and he had some great results again. That said, do you know what wasn't getting a chance to heal throughout all the jumping and change of direction prep work? The ankle/foot.

    This kid showcased he was in top shape and remained in it all the way up until the draft and mini-camps shortly thereafter; so I'm not worrying about a couple months to rest/recup the injury. Nobody makes the Pro Bowl in May, June and July (Dennis Northcutt season). These guys will be participating in the strength and conditioning program all year in addition to practicing so the muscle memory and endurance will be back in no time. I'd be more worried about hurrying this guy back before we need to and worsening his situation longer term. Yeah, it sucks but the sports med staff will work in tandem with the strength and conditioning coaches and the rest of our coaching staff. They'll have a plan for this gigantic investment.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Of this 2 options yes number 2 is the only sensible one. That doesn't mean it's a good option, just the only 1. Death by n'gowa If you remember the joke. Sure rest up miles. Sit around until l training camp, maybe even all through training camp And when you finally do get into a game situation you won't be in shape, at least not as conditioned as if you'd gone through training camp. And then we know what happens.

    Anyway I'm not trying to be 2 dam negative but this does bum me out. Like spending your life savings on a Brand-new Porsche that breaks down before you get home.

    WSS

    Steve, I totally get the frustration and worry people have about it.

    Having said that, rookies never have an offseason or any recuperation period to heal up. As soon as their Bowl Games are finished, it's pedal to the metal to prepare for the best possible results at the Indy Combines. Some guys that aren't elite or projecting for upper round one spots have to go play in a college all star game after a week full of practices against other all stars before they get to prepare for the Indy Combines.

    Once the Indy Combines are completed, guys get ready for their Pro Days. If anyone listened to Garrett's presser when all 3 of our first round guys were getting interviewed by the media - Garrett spoke of his reluctance to do the pro day mentioning he was sore. Jeff Fisher encouraged him to do the Pro Day in spite of it and he had some great results again. That said, do you know what wasn't getting a chance to heal throughout all the jumping and change of direction prep work? The ankle/foot.

    This kid showcased he was in top shape and remained in it all the way up until the draft and mini-camps shortly thereafter; so I'm not worrying about a couple months to rest/recup the injury. Nobody makes the Pro Bowl in May, June and July (Dennis Northcutt season). These guys will be participating in the strength and conditioning program all year in addition to practicing so the muscle memory and endurance will be back in no time. I'd be more worried about hurrying this guy back before we need to and worsening his situation longer term. Yeah, it sucks but the sports med staff will work in tandem with the strength and conditioning coaches and the rest of our coaching staff. They'll have a plan for this gigantic investment.

    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    @flugel said:

    Steve, I totally get the frustration and worry people have about it.

    Having said that, rookies never have an offseason or any recuperation period to heal up. As soon as their Bowl Games are finished, it's pedal to the metal to prepare for the best possible results at the Indy Combines. Some guys that aren't elite or projecting for upper round one spots have to go play in a college all star game after a week full of practices against other all stars before they get to prepare for the Indy Combines.

    Once the Indy Combines are completed, guys get ready for their Pro Days. If anyone listened to Garrett's presser when all 3 of our first round guys were getting interviewed by the media - Garrett spoke of his reluctance to do the pro day mentioning he was sore. Jeff Fisher encouraged him to do the Pro Day in spite of it and he had some great results again. That said, do you know what wasn't getting a chance to heal throughout all the jumping and change of direction prep work? The ankle/foot.

    This kid showcased he was in top shape and remained in it all the way up until the draft and mini-camps shortly thereafter; so I'm not worrying about a couple months to rest/recup the injury. Nobody makes the Pro Bowl in May, June and July (Dennis Northcutt season). These guys will be participating in the strength and conditioning program all year in addition to practicing so the muscle memory and endurance will be back in no time. I'd be more worried about hurrying this guy back before we need to and worsening his situation longer term. Yeah, it sucks but the sports med staff will work in tandem with the strength and conditioning coaches and the rest of our coaching staff. They'll have a plan for this gigantic investment.

    What is it the Scots say about plans? They gang aft agley...

    🙂

    WSS

  • W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by

    My niggling worry is that he knew there was something wrong and kept it under cover through the draft.

    The precious little information we've gotten about this injury is a little bit concerning.

    WSS