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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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      This is a joke , right?

      Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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        I'm 35 and not quite as spongey as I was at 25 but I can still manage a few rabbits out of my hat from time to time.

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        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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        @poeticg said:

        I'm 35 and not quite as spongey as I was at 25 but I can still manage a few rabbits out of my hat from time to time.

        Question is will someone pay you to manage a few from time to time or put another way are you good enough to hang on like a LHP or a serviceable backup QB?

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          Marijuanavich at 48? Hey, we're waiting til the 12th of Never for Josh Gordon. And after all the silly conversations about DGB lately, I'm suddenly finding myself way more willing to go Linus in the Pumpkin Patch for Gordon.

          I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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            Marijuanavich at 48? Hey, we're waiting til the 12th of Never for Josh Gordon. And after all the silly conversations about DGB lately, I'm suddenly finding myself way more willing to go Linus in the Pumpkin Patch for Gordon.

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            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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            @flugel said:

            Marijuanavich at 48? Hey, we're waiting til the 12th of Never for Josh Gordon. And after all the silly conversations about DGB lately, I'm suddenly finding myself way more willing to go Linus in the Pumpkin Patch for Gordon.

            Maybe the Robo-QB discovered some new Gatorade concoction that will keep him a viable NFL QB into his 50s. 😆

            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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              TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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              What a waste of forum space.

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                @flugel said:

                Marijuanavich at 48? Hey, we're waiting til the 12th of Never for Josh Gordon. And after all the silly conversations about DGB lately, I'm suddenly finding myself way more willing to go Linus in the Pumpkin Patch for Gordon.

                Maybe the Robo-QB discovered some new Gatorade concoction that will keep him a viable NFL QB into his 50s. 😆

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @mjp28 said:

                Maybe the Robo-QB discovered some new Gatorade concoction that will keep him a viable NFL QB into his 50s. 😆

                He wasn't playing in the NFL....It was for like the California Coyotes or something.....some semi-pro league. Maybe even like a 35 and over league.

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                  What a waste of forum space.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @topdawg31 said:

                  What a waste of forum space.

                  OK....lets waste some more: George Blanda played until he was like 49 years old.

                  What other really old geezers played in the NFL (non-kickers).

                  and Satchel Paige still pitched in the big leagues until he was like 59.

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                    @topdawg31 said:

                    What a waste of forum space.

                    OK....lets waste some more: George Blanda played until he was like 49 years old.

                    What other really old geezers played in the NFL (non-kickers).

                    and Satchel Paige still pitched in the big leagues until he was like 59.

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    OK....lets waste some more: George Blanda played until he was like 49 years old.

                    What other really old geezers played in the NFL (non-kickers).

                    and Satchel Paige still pitched in the big leagues until he was like 59.

                    Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                    Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

                    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                      OK....lets waste some more: George Blanda played until he was like 49 years old.

                      What other really old geezers played in the NFL (non-kickers).

                      and Satchel Paige still pitched in the big leagues until he was like 59.

                      Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                      Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

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                      @mjp28 said:

                      Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                      Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

                      Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                      Zombo

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                        What the hell. I'd like to see the guy have a little bit of success, why not?

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                          @mjp28 said:

                          Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                          Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

                          Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                          Zombo

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                          Zombo

                          Yes, that bullshit about players of old getting destroyed today is a pile of ignorance. FYI, the only positions where guys are bigger now are the OL and DL...due to weight training, conditioning...and just them being fatter.

                          The average height/weight of RBs is no more now than today. (compare Jim Brown at 6'2 232. OJ was 6'1" 212. RBs are no bigger than that. Weight training may have them weigh a bit more. WRs today are probably smaller overall. The game back then required big WRs due to bump and run. Smurfs like we have now would get destroyed. DBs and LBs are really no bigger now.

                          Night Train Lane was 6'1 200. Mel Blount 6'3" 201. On LBs. Dick Butkus was 6'3 245. Nitschke was 6'2 240. Our MLB today, Christian Kirksey is 6'2 236.

                          QBs may, overall be an inch or so taller overall. But you still have a lot of 6'2 QBs playing now. Blanda was 6'2 220. Aaron Rodgers is 6'2" 225.

                          So, given that Blanda and Rodgers are essentially the same dimensions, height/weight...does that mean that Rodgers would get destroyed today as well?

                          With the less strict rules about hitting the QBs than we have now it is Rodgers et al who may have been destroyed....by a Joe Greene, Merlin Olsen slobberknocker hit....that would not have been penalized.

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                            @mjp28 said:

                            Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                            Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

                            Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                            Zombo

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                            mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                            Zombo said:

                            Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                            Zombo

                            1964 BROWNS only two 270# DEs on the team all the rest way less.

                            NOTE: NOT THE ROSTER I WANTED BUT CLOSE:

                            http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20141227/NEWS/141229705

                            1974 SB CHAMP STEELERS Joe Green 6' 4" 275# all the rest weigh less some much less. NO 300# dudes back then.

                            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/1974_roster.htm

                            Some of those dudes would have trouble making a 2017 roster. Different game now, even NCAA rosters are fast strong and B-I-G.

                            GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                              Just part of the 2017 BUCKEYES roster, B-I-G dudes! (8 from OHIO 5 others)

                              http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/osu-m-footbl-mtt.html

                              50 Brock, Nathan OL 6-4 285 SO Powell, Ohio (Olentangy Liberty)

                              52 Davis, Wyatt OL 6-4 310 FR Bellflower, Calif. (St. John Bosco)

                              53 Hamilton, Davon DT 6-4 300 RS SO Pickerington, Ohio (Central)

                              54 Price, Billy OL 6-4 312 SR Austintown, Ohio (Fitch)

                              55 Barrow, Malik DT 6-2 290 RS FR Tampa, Fla. (Catholic & IMG Academy)

                              58 Alabi, Joshua DT 6-5 300 RS SO Detroit, Mich. (Cass Tech)

                              59 Lewis, Tyquan DL 6-4 265 SR Tarboro, N.C. (Tarboro)

                              59 Prince, Isaiah OL 6-7 310 JR Greenbelt, Md. (Eleanor Roosevelt)

                              60 Pfenning, Blake OL 6-5 290 JR Wapakoneta, Ohio (Wapakoneta)

                              61 Cupp, Gavin OL 6-5 305 RS FR Leipsic, Ohio (Leipsic H.S.)

                              62 Pahl, Brandon OL 6-2 295 JR Cutler, Ohio (Warren)

                              63 Woidke, Kevin OL 6-6 295 JR Cleveland, Ohio (St. Ignatius)

                              64 Wohlabaugh, Jack OL 6-4 293 RS FR Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio (Walsh Jesuit)

                              GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                @mjp28 said:

                                Blanda played as a kicker and QB when the NFL had little guys, he'd get destroyed today.

                                Paige was a rare rubber armed freak!

                                Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                                Zombo

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                                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                                Zombo said:

                                Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                                Zombo

                                Just to complete the circle Olson and two other guys weighed 270# on the 1975 Rams. Blanda and other skilled players were getting hit by smaller dudes back then. It's strange when you go back in time and find out how your memory can play tricks on you....the steel curtain and fearsome foursome weren't really that big afterall.

                                http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/1975_roster.htm

                                GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                                  TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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                                  Maybe if this was about Brett favre, or even bernie but Marinovich oh my

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                                    This is a joke , right?

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                                    B Buck The Frowns wrote on last edited by
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                                    @nickers said:

                                    This is a joke , right?

                                    Not yet but it will be. He was arrested again last August. Apparently practicing his Naked Bootleg in the neighbor's back yard. He must have gone through every substance known. He is trying to numb some pain. There are some real monstrosities out there serving as sports parents, pro tennis parents can be pretty bad, but Marinovich's father takes the cake. I would describe what he did as a cross between the Pat Morita character in The Karate Kid and a Nazi breeding experiment.

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                                      Zombo said:

                                      Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                                      Zombo

                                      Just to complete the circle Olson and two other guys weighed 270# on the 1975 Rams. Blanda and other skilled players were getting hit by smaller dudes back then. It's strange when you go back in time and find out how your memory can play tricks on you....the steel curtain and fearsome foursome weren't really that big afterall.

                                      http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/1975_roster.htm

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mjp28 said:

                                      Just to complete the circle Olson and two other guys weighed 270# on the 1975 Rams. Blanda and other skilled players were getting hit by smaller dudes back then. It's strange when you go back in time and find out how your memory can play tricks on you....the steel curtain and fearsome foursome weren't really that big afterall.

                                      http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/1975_roster.htm

                                      I think you are right....YOUR memory IS playing tricks on you. As I said....the size of nearly everyone back then is no smaller now than they are today except for OL....and actually just DTs/NTs.

                                      DEs are about the same: Deacon Jones was 6'5" 275. Myles Garrett is 6'5" 271

                                      Yes, DT Joe Greene was 275. DTs today do top 300. On defense ONLY DTs are bigger now than they were in the 60/70s.

                                      As I said, most of the weight gain are with DTs and OL.

                                      So, the answer is: bullshit....Blanda et al were NOT being hit by smaller guys. Except on rare occasions.

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        1964 BROWNS only two 270# DEs on the team all the rest way less.

                                        2017 Browns DEs: Garrett 271. Emmanuel Ogbah 269 lbs.

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                                          Zombo said:

                                          Those guys in the 70's weren't exactly "little guys" ... I think your Mean Joe Greenes, Merlin Olsens etc. could play today ... and Blanda engineered 5 comeback wins in a row at age 43

                                          Zombo

                                          1964 BROWNS only two 270# DEs on the team all the rest way less.

                                          NOTE: NOT THE ROSTER I WANTED BUT CLOSE:

                                          http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20141227/NEWS/141229705

                                          1974 SB CHAMP STEELERS Joe Green 6' 4" 275# all the rest weigh less some much less. NO 300# dudes back then.

                                          http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/1974_roster.htm

                                          Some of those dudes would have trouble making a 2017 roster. Different game now, even NCAA rosters are fast strong and B-I-G.

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                                          @mjp28 said:

                                          1964 BROWNS only two 270# DEs on the team all the rest way less.

                                          NOTE: NOT THE ROSTER I WANTED BUT CLOSE:

                                          http://www.news-herald.com/article/HR/20141227/NEWS/141229705

                                          1974 SB CHAMP STEELERS Joe Green 6' 4" 275# all the rest weigh less some much less. NO 300# dudes back then.

                                          http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/1974_roster.htm

                                          Some of those dudes would have trouble making a 2017 roster. Different game now, even NCAA rosters are fast strong and B-I-G.

                                          The lineman are bigger on both sides of the ball. Particularly on offense. Which would presume a qb like Blanda would actually be better protected today, not "killed" because the guys are bigger.

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