Gerbil Peppers Signs
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I'm going to take all of the credit if he succeeds. I guess I have to take the blame if he doesn't
We already have said we hold you personally responsible...

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I, for one, will be delighted to give Woody 'credit' WHEN Peppers succeeds...
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Yeah, read this too. And here everyone thought it was offset language. This seems more legitimate to me. With his positional flexibility it may affect that number too.
Yeah, read this too. And here everyone thought it was offset language. This seems more legitimate to me. With his positional flexibility it may affect that number too.
Ah, it will get done. The dollar amount they're haggling over is peanuts compared to Garrett's contract.
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"One said:
He's a season ticket holder doubt if he's trolling the Browns forum. He's being truthful sorry if it bumped your vagina too hard.
Oh, so he's just an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up.
No that be on your end.Oh, so he's just an idiot. Thanks for clearing that up.
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I thought if a player doesn't sign then the team that drafted him gets the pick the next year.WTF do you mean we get the pick back? Like hell.
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Unless of course he can pull a Garrabett out of his hat.
:lol:The other rookie that hasn't played a snap yet?
The other rookie that hasn't played a snap yet?
Yep-the one that's gonna save me from the JFF debacle. LOL!

And actually I think Peppers was one of Williams' hand picked for his defense to succeed, so I'm really looking forward to how these rookies operate together with those who were already on the team.
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I am ambivalent on this crap. On one hand, a guy is only a rookie once in his life, and his prognosis for a long career in the NFL is not good. So, who isn't going to try and get as much as they can, knowing that the career could be gone in the blink of an eye?
On the flip side, this hold out shit always seems to affect teams negatively in one way or another. Jealosy, anger for not maning up, whatever, it isn't good for team continuity and unity.
The NFL, with a little wisdom could end this shit forever, and also get these leech mother fucker agents out of the game.
Regardless of where a rookie is drafted, he should get a fixed rookie salary, common to all positions. Have an increasing wage scale as a guy plays more years. Insert a bonus for the guys who bet injured or don't make the team. All this contract bullshit is a sour taste component of the NFL.
We wait all fucking off season, we are excited about the draft, training came approaches, and we have this bullshit.
Standardize the pay scale already.
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The other rookie that hasn't played a snap yet?
Yep-the one that's gonna save me from the JFF debacle. LOL!

And actually I think Peppers was one of Williams' hand picked for his defense to succeed, so I'm really looking forward to how these rookies operate together with those who were already on the team.
Yep-the one that's gonna save me from the JFF debacle. LOL!

And actually I think Peppers was one of Williams' hand picked for his defense to succeed, so I'm really looking forward to how these rookies operate together with those who were already on the team.
Haha, good point. If anyone can make up for the blindly obvious horror that was Johnny, it's Garrett. I've like him in every interview I've seen of his so far.
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I thought if a player doesn't sign then the team that drafted him gets the pick the next year.WTF do you mean we get the pick back? Like hell.
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No way does that happen. If the guy does not sign, he can go back into the draft...and the team that drafted him is SOL.
Yup it behooves both sides to get a deal done. The team doesn't want to effectively loose the pick, & the player doesn't want to loose a year of $$$. Don't think it's ever happened.
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I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
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Bosa didn't sign for a while. Happens with agents pulling the strings of signing
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I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
Your logic makes sense, but let's hope you're wrong. Trading down has been our bread and butter lately ?I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
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I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
Yes, we could have paid more for a safety that's less versatile and that has bad shoulders. See how that works?
I assume we'll never hear the end of the "we could have had Hooker!" stuff from the OSU fans here
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No way does that happen. If the guy does not sign, he can go back into the draft...and the team that drafted him is SOL.
Yup it behooves both sides to get a deal done. The team doesn't want to effectively loose the pick, & the player doesn't want to loose a year of $$$. Don't think it's ever happened.
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I'm already on record that Peppers is going to be a blown pick. I'll enjoy nothing more than eating my hat if I'm wrong. But seriously, you have a wonderful opportunity to pick an Ohio State safety that is projected to be a once in a decade stud, and you elect to trade down for a first rounder next year (likely a late one) and select a Michigan tweener that many projected to fall into the secondary round. That's not how you build a good football team.
Yes, we could have paid more for a safety that's less versatile and that has bad shoulders. See how that works?
I assume we'll never hear the end of the "we could have had Hooker!" stuff from the OSU fans here
Yes, we could have paid more for a safety that's less versatile and that has bad shoulders. See how that works?
I assume we'll never hear the end of the "we could have had Hooker!" stuff from the OSU fans here
It will depend on how the two of them perform...will it not?
Though...in some quarters I have heard an alternate, but similar version of your exclamatory statement that went like this:
We could have Hookers"!
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It happened to John Elway right?
No. Elway threatened it by saying he would play baseball and not signing with the Colts. (He and his dad and his agent wanted absolutely no part of Frank Kush or Robert Irsay).....instead he was traded...for Chris Hinton and other considerations.
One of the best ESPN 30 for 30 stories was about the 1983 draft, focusing on the agent for both Marino and Elway. (it is a very self serving story for this guy....but the story is good):
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It happened to John Elway right?
No. Elway threatened it by saying he would play baseball and not signing with the Colts. (He and his dad and his agent wanted absolutely no part of Frank Kush or Robert Irsay).....instead he was traded...for Chris Hinton and other considerations.
One of the best ESPN 30 for 30 stories was about the 1983 draft, focusing on the agent for both Marino and Elway. (it is a very self serving story for this guy....but the story is good):
No. Elway threatened it by saying he would play baseball and not signing with the Colts. (He and his dad and his agent wanted absolutely no part of Frank Kush or Robert Irsay).....instead he was traded...for Chris Hinton and other considerations.
One of the best ESPN 30 for 30 stories was about the 1983 draft, focusing on the agent for both Marino and Elway. (it is a very self serving story for this guy....but the story is good):
Seeing as how Bert Jones was mishandled.. I'd want no part either...
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No. Elway threatened it by saying he would play baseball and not signing with the Colts. (He and his dad and his agent wanted absolutely no part of Frank Kush or Robert Irsay).....instead he was traded...for Chris Hinton and other considerations.
One of the best ESPN 30 for 30 stories was about the 1983 draft, focusing on the agent for both Marino and Elway. (it is a very self serving story for this guy....but the story is good):
Seeing as how Bert Jones was mishandled.. I'd want no part either...
Seeing as how Bert Jones was mishandled.. I'd want no part either...
At heart I couldn't really blame Elway at all.....but...he did come off terribly arrogant over the matter. (and his agent comes off completely arrogant in that movie) And, of course Elway's obvious lies about it wanting to play in warm weather didn't help. Denver is warm but Baltimore wasn't? Bottom line: Elway made the right move.
Also...of note if you watch that....the Browns did not have a first round pick that year when 6 QBs were taken.
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