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This is not a thread: I just want to know why The Browns let Terrelle Pryor Go?

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  • TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on
    #13

    @boo-fagley said:

    Every team has a franchise Super Bowl QB at some time in their history is what I say and the Browns are due.

    And then there are teams that somehow replace franchise QB's with another franchise QB. Makes me ill just to think about it.

  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @jiggins7919 said:

    It really doesn't make sense, especially in the NFL where career ending injuries can happen at any time. Pryor essentially turned down the deal Britt gladly received ($8 mill a year or so). His agent thought he could get much more, and he's an idiot. Pryor is in his mid to late 20's, and he's not going to get another big payday like this one, so he's basically betting on himself. Honestly, it doesn't make sense. I can't remember the last time I saw something like this.

    You can't say he definitely won't get another big payday. If he has a monster season next off-season her may be the most highly coveted free agent. Will he? I'd put it at 75/25 he won't but it isn't a certainty. He has always been extremely confident in himself and this deal shows he is no different than his attitude he had since high school.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #14

    @bjh2130 said:

    You can't say he definitely won't get another big payday. If he has a monster season next off-season her may be the most highly coveted free agent. Will he? I'd put it at 75/25 he won't but it isn't a certainty. He has always been extremely confident in himself and this deal shows he is no different than his attitude he had since high school.

    This ^...

    Pryor was a 28-yo, 5-year vet who just so happened to have had one great year at a new position. He wanted to get paid just like any "star" with his timeline and if that result was not in the cards due to how thin his resume was, then he was will to bet on himself... which is exactly what he did.

    For our part we quickly moved on to Britt, who we essentially saw as the same player for the same role and was willing to accept essentially the same offer. Moving on made sense since as the market was moving fast and had Britt gone elsewhere then the market would have gotten quite thin in a hurry.

    FWIW I put Pryor's odds of succeeding in Washington much higher... close to 80% based on what their WR room looks like.

    Anyone want to swap with them? http://www.redskins.com/team/roster.html

    ...

    ...

    ...

    Didn't think so...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #15

    3 observations....or opinions.....

    1) looks like a thread to me.....

    2) Pryor is and has always been a doofus....

    3) Redskins have a couple of Quick WR's....

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • W wargograw

    @calfoxwc said:

    and, he once txted Andrew Hawkins at 1 AM in the morning - asking him "do you think they will

    run this play?" and Hawkins said "I'm off the clock, don't talk to me, I've got kids".

    Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad.

    Huh?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #16

    @wargograw said:

    Huh?

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    W MLD WoodyM 2 Replies
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @wargograw said:

    Huh?

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    W wargograw wrote on
    #17

    @hoorta said:

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    I am an OSU fan and knew all that. I should have deleted that part too. I was asking about the Hawkins story.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #18

    Hi Opal, sorry about your dad nothing easy about those kind of family situations.

    On Pryor who really knows what some players' true motivations really are, and we just wait to see how his season progresses.

    You don't always know either what the owner, GM, coaches' motivations really are unless some good stuff gets leaked out.

    Yes at times he was an exciting BROWNS player to watch and root for.

    Two things for sure:

    1. No professional athletes now are really underpaid.

    2. I think TP was/is still a personal d*ckweed.

    Good to see you back! mjp

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @wargograw said:

    Huh?

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #19

    @hoorta said:

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    Tressel got himself fired lying to the NCAA

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    mjp28M 1 Reply
  • nickersN nickers wrote on
    #20

    Sorry for your troubles ,Opal.. Hope things get better real soon...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @hoorta said:

    "Like in college- he knew he was breaking rules, but it was all about HIM. Too bad." Cal

    You're allowed that because you're not a big OSU fan. Pyror got Jim Tressell fired covering up for his antics...

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=5950873

    Tressel got himself fired lying to the NCAA

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #21

    @mld-woody said:

    Tressel got himself fired lying to the NCAA

    I hear that's now the new UM motto. 😆

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #22

    @boo-fagley said:

    Shame too because he is a really good HC.

    I cant believe that he is not back coaching someplace.

    He's got a better gig for now, president of YSU and got old Youngstown friend Bo Pelini to run the football team and get them to the National Championship Game in year TWO.

    ....largely due to the fact that Nebraska owed Bo $7+M upon leaving in payments of $150K+/month. 😉

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
    👍
  • MudflyM Mudfly

    3 observations....or opinions.....

    1) looks like a thread to me.....

    2) Pryor is and has always been a doofus....

    3) Redskins have a couple of Quick WR's....

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #23

    @mudfly said:

    3) Redskins have a couple of Quick WR's....

    I see what you did there...

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #24

    As far as I am concerned...Pryor is out of sight and out of mind....unless we are now talking about Calvin Pryor.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    As far as I am concerned...Pryor is out of sight and out of mind....unless we are now talking about Calvin Pryor.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on
    #25

    @the-gipper said:

    As far as I am concerned...Pryor is out of sight and out of mind....unless we are now talking about Calvin Pryor.

    ....or Richard Pryor, now he was cool.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
    👍
  • mjp28M mjp28

    @the-gipper said:

    As far as I am concerned...Pryor is out of sight and out of mind....unless we are now talking about Calvin Pryor.

    ....or Richard Pryor, now he was cool.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #26

    @mjp28 said:

    ....or Richard Pryor, now he was cool.

    Dead Honky.

    👍
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #27

    sad jim brown had to knock down his door and wrestle the crack pipe out of his hand.....

    and then there's michigan. lovely state. hated nemesis. (not hated but......)

  • mjp28M mjp28

    @mld-woody said:

    Tressel got himself fired lying to the NCAA

    I hear that's now the new UM motto. 😆

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #28

    @mjp28 said:

    I hear that's now the new UM motto. 😆

    Ok. No I'm just telling you he wasn't fired because of what Pryor did. He was fired for lying to the NCAA about. Even OSU couldn't spin that. And with everything we know Tressel did, and with what he was allegedly doing, I'd say OSU got off very easy.

    @boo-fagley said:

    Shame too because he is a really good HC.

    I cant believe that he is not back coaching someplace.

    He is a very good HC. Did some shady stuff, but good at winning games. Kind of like Saban. Though, I'd wonder if the game would have eventually passed him by if he stayed at OSU. Suffering one year of Fickel to get Meyer was definitely a better result.

    Also, Tressel had a 5 year show-cause penalty levied against him by the NCAA, so no school was going to touch him during that time.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    The GipperT mjp28M 2 Replies
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #29

    The Tressel-Meyer move was the college version of Favre-Rodgers.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    It really doesn't make sense, especially in the NFL where career ending injuries can happen at any time. Pryor essentially turned down the deal Britt gladly received ($8 mill a year or so). His agent thought he could get much more, and he's an idiot. Pryor is in his mid to late 20's, and he's not going to get another big payday like this one, so he's basically betting on himself. Honestly, it doesn't make sense. I can't remember the last time I saw something like this.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on
    #30

    @jiggins7919 said:

    It really doesn't make sense, especially in the NFL where career ending injuries can happen at any time. Pryor essentially turned down the deal Britt gladly received ($8 mill a year or so). His agent thought he could get much more, and he's an idiot. Pryor is in his mid to late 20's, and he's not going to get another big payday like this one, so he's basically betting on himself. Honestly, it doesn't make sense. I can't remember the last time I saw something like this.

    Again, the only Head Coach in the NFL that was willing to START Pryor at WR in a regular season game was Hue in 2016. After trying out here in 2015, Pryor was unemployed for all of that regular season except the final 3 games (he got very little game experience in).

    He and his agent overrated his market value - while it looked like Sashi did not.

    Pryor is betting on himself again; but he's going to a place that has a lot of openings at WR with a veteran QB that threw 25 TD passes (with over 4900 yards passing). What's interesting here is Pierre Garcon had very similar numbers to Pryor in 2016 with 79 rec 1041 yds and 3 TDs. It looks like he can replace and upgrade that. Even if he's turning 29 years old, Pryor doesn't have nearly as much mileage/wear and tear as other WRs his age.

    Because Sashi remained more aware of market values than Pryor's agent, he was prepared to take the Kenny Britt who just had the highest reception volume of his NFL career, exceeded 1000 yards receiving and had 1 more TD reception than Pryor. Timing is everything. Britt was a first round talent; but he liked to party like Josh Gordon very early on in the career here in Nashville. Gordon was a Pro Bowl talent that would have been a 1st round pick if he didn't get kicked off Baylor's team twice for the same thing. Gordon is almost the same age as Britt. I would think the guy who has already turned the corner could be a good built-in support/peer influence for Gordon (if the unthinkable ever unfolds via getting his talent back out on the field). Maybe Sashi also had this in mind?

    Right now - there's not a lot of warm fuzzies about the WR Corps. If Gordon does comes back this year - we could be looking at this as our WR Corps:

    Britt

    Gordon

    Coleman

    Higgins

    Hall

    Payton/Louis

    +

    TE

    Njoku

    DeValve

    TBD

    We're long overdue for some good luck for a refreshing change.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #31

    You know, reflecting on this one thing I've thought about is how great franchises like the steelers, patriots, etc operate. One thing they are known for amongst others is NOT overpaying for a free agent on the team. To keep TP on the Browns meant paying him a shit ton of money he wasn't worth, plain and simple. I don't care how much cap space we had, it would have been a bad financial decision to keep the guy at what he wanted. History has shown this is a strong strategy to have as a front office as it sets a precedent for other guys.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #32

    Believe me, you don't have to tell me that Meyer wasn't Mr Clean at Florida. That team had more trouble with the law than any other in the nation. He got out of dodge right as he was losing control

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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