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Dealing Irving May be Imminent:

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  • @baconhound said:

    Not a shock Irving wants out. I think this ask is all on Lebron James but not because Lebron is a jerk or a difficult teammate but because he was smart and will be a free agent after next season.

    i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

    No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

    The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

    @the-gipper said:

    i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

    No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

    The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

    Kyrie couldn't win before LBJ returned, can't hold a lead now when LBJ rests. I, for one, will welcome getting PLAYERS and ridding our Cavs of the "mad dribbling, low assist" Kyrie. He's very talented, but not a Team player. No great loss & MAY end up being a building block.

    Mike

  • They signed ? for a reason.

  • Meaning he could be dealt with at anytime to come.

  • What would you want in a trade for him?

    He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick.

    I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young.

  • Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us.

  • Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us.

    @stillmotion said:

    Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us.

    Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support.

  • @stillmotion said:

    Timberwolves wont trade for him. It's looking like our best bet is to trade shumpert frye and kyrie to the suns and knicks. Knicks trade us Carmelo, Suns give us Bledsoe, We give Shumpert and Frye to the Suns and Kyrie the Knicks might also give us a top pick. James Jones is lebrons boy and works for the suns and bledsoe has the same agent as us.

    Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support.

    @the-gipper said:

    Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support.

    Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't.

    They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve?

    I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs).

  • LOL Wiggins is the worst defender in the NBA

  • Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

  • Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    "One said:

    Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    Is the end of the Cavs and maybe Cleveland's short but exciting championship run very near?

  • Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    "One said:

    Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    Is the end of the Cavs and maybe Cleveland's short but exciting championship run very near?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why won't Minnesota trade for him. It seems that you make a blanket statement like that without any evidence or support.

    Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't.

    They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve?

    I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs).

    @stillmotion said:

    Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't.

    They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve?

    I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs).

    Wiggins plus perhaps another player....obviously not Towns or Butler. And/or draft picks.

  • Hey Carmel from the knicks and a draft pick

  • After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show.

  • After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show.

    @medicineman said:

    After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show.

    I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron.

  • @medicineman said:

    After next year LBJ is leaving the Land, Kyrie knows is it and I am willing to bet they had it all worked out so they both end up in LA next season. I believe LBJ and Kyrie are close friends and this is all for show.

    I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron.

    @mjp28 said:

    I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron.

    His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron.

    His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever.

    @the-gipper said:

    His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever.

    But so much easier and better to watch them grow up here.............not 2,500 miles away.

    He stays.

  • Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    @one-post said:

    Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

    No he isn't D-Rose is a 15 minute off the bench player. Absolutely no threat to Irving

  • @baconhound said:

    Not a shock Irving wants out. I think this ask is all on Lebron James but not because Lebron is a jerk or a difficult teammate but because he was smart and will be a free agent after next season.

    i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

    No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

    The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

    @the-gipper said:

    i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

    No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

    The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

    Lebron on the Nets doesn't make them a Champion contender and Kyrie would be the "Alpha Dog" on Detroit and they would be an immediate playoff contender.

  • What would you want in a trade for him?

    He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick.

    I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young.

    @the-gipper said:

    What would you want in a trade for him?

    He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick.

    I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young.

    Don't think the Wolves would offer Wiggins and keep Teague on the roster. I'd bet they'd be offering Teague and a pick.