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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mjp28 said:

    I kind of believe Bruce Drennen on this one, LBJ plays and stays in Cleveland and his kids go to SVSM in Akron.

    His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever.

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    @the-gipper said:

    His kids will go to St.V St. M regardless of where he plays or lives....even if it means his wife has to stay here in Akron while he is off to whereever.

    But so much easier and better to watch them grow up here.............not 2,500 miles away.

    He stays.

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      Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

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      Oh goddamn you guys aren't this stupid are ya? Irving is pissy be cause of the D Rose talk then the signing. Come on man D Rose wont last and was to be a role player,

      No he isn't D-Rose is a 15 minute off the bench player. Absolutely no threat to Irving

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      • The GipperT The Gipper

        @baconhound said:

        Not a shock Irving wants out. I think this ask is all on Lebron James but not because Lebron is a jerk or a difficult teammate but because he was smart and will be a free agent after next season.

        i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

        No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

        The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

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        @the-gipper said:

        i think it is all on Kyrie who is showing himself to be selfish and stupid. Any team with Kyrie as the "Alpha Dog"...as good as he is, would still be lucky to make .500....or even make the playoffs. (We had him here for 3 years without LeBron..and where were we?). Any team with LeBron is a championship contender.

        No one can win by themselves....but LeBron comes as close as anyone who has played to doing that. Kyrie can't.

        The old "he would rather be the big fish in the little pond" scenario for Kyrie I guess.

        Lebron on the Nets doesn't make them a Champion contender and Kyrie would be the "Alpha Dog" on Detroit and they would be an immediate playoff contender.

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          What would you want in a trade for him?

          He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick.

          I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young.

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          @the-gipper said:

          What would you want in a trade for him?

          He says he would go to Minnesota....then how about getting Wiggins back for him? Plus maybe a draft pick.

          I am of the opinion that is they do trade him they should trade him to a team in the Western Conf. Why give him to teams that are in closer competition. Ergo, the Minnesota thing, to me, could be the best move. The T-wolves will not give you Carl Anthony Townes...but Wiggins could fit the bill. A good wing player, a good scorer, a good defender...and young.

          Don't think the Wolves would offer Wiggins and keep Teague on the roster. I'd bet they'd be offering Teague and a pick.

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            I doubt minnesota would get rid of teague right after getting him. i think they have a solid squad.

            I believe Kyrie is mad lebron might stay. If lebron stays, kyrie can't be the face of the team. Kyrie wants to be a westbrook type player.

            Little does he know, it takes a whole squad to achieve greatness. James Harden and Russell didn't get into the finals for a reason last year.

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              I doubt minnesota would get rid of teague right after getting him. i think they have a solid squad.

              I believe Kyrie is mad lebron might stay. If lebron stays, kyrie can't be the face of the team. Kyrie wants to be a westbrook type player.

              Little does he know, it takes a whole squad to achieve greatness. James Harden and Russell didn't get into the finals for a reason last year.

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              @stillmotion said:

              I doubt minnesota would get rid of teague right after getting him. i think they have a solid squad.

              I believe Kyrie is mad lebron might stay. If lebron stays, kyrie can't be the face of the team. Kyrie wants to be a westbrook type player.

              Little does he know, it takes a whole squad to achieve greatness. James Harden and Russell didn't get into the finals for a reason last year.

              In the NBA you have to get the money to lineup swapping Teague makes sense in terms of salary and team composition. Irving is better than Teague but the team who has the guy who wants out rarely gets equal value.

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                @stillmotion said:

                Minnesota would have to give up Karl Anthony Towns which they won't.

                They just got Jeff Teague and Butler and they have big contracts. Teague for Irving isn't enough, and they won't flip him right after aquiring him. I doubt the cavs would accept wiggins for kyrie outright. And with wiggins for kyrie would we even improve?

                I just don't see it happening. I see Kyrie going potentially to the knicks. I doubt we trade them to our second biggest threat (the spurs).

                Wiggins plus perhaps another player....obviously not Towns or Butler. And/or draft picks.

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                @the-gipper said:

                Wiggins plus perhaps another player....obviously not Towns or Butler. And/or draft picks.

                In trade talks with the Wolves, the Cavs have requested a package of Andrew Wiggins and "something of substance" in exchange for Kyrie Irving, according to Darren Wolfson of ESPN.

                Unsurprisingly, the Wolves are reportedly not interested in giving up Wiggins plus additional pieces to land Irving. Cleveland's demands have been very high since word leaked that Irving had requested a trade. We shall see if the price drops as the Cavs get closer to training camp. As for Wiggins, it appears he is on the verge of signing a five-year, $148 million contract extension with Minnesota.
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                  Carmelo Anthony "only wishes to waive his no-trade clause to go to the Rockets" and is unwilling to accept a trade to Cleveland, according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.



                  Once Kyrie Irving requested a trade out of Cleveland, rumors involving Melo and the Cavs began to pick up steam. However, it appears that Anthony still has his heart set on Houston. The issue is the Knicks are not interested in taking back Ryan Anderson as the centerpiece of the package the Rockets are offering. This stalemate may last well into next month, as the Knicks don't have a reason to rush into making an unfavorable trade.

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Wiggins plus perhaps another player....obviously not Towns or Butler. And/or draft picks.

                    In trade talks with the Wolves, the Cavs have requested a package of Andrew Wiggins and "something of substance" in exchange for Kyrie Irving, according to Darren Wolfson of ESPN.

                    Unsurprisingly, the Wolves are reportedly not interested in giving up Wiggins plus additional pieces to land Irving. Cleveland's demands have been very high since word leaked that Irving had requested a trade. We shall see if the price drops as the Cavs get closer to training camp. As for Wiggins, it appears he is on the verge of signing a five-year, $148 million contract extension with Minnesota.
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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @stillmotion said:

                    In trade talks with the Wolves, the Cavs have requested a package of Andrew Wiggins and "something of substance" in exchange for Kyrie Irving, according to Darren Wolfson of ESPN.

                    Unsurprisingly, the Wolves are reportedly not interested in giving up Wiggins plus additional pieces to land Irving. Cleveland's demands have been very high since word leaked that Irving had requested a trade. We shall see if the price drops as the Cavs get closer to training camp. As for Wiggins, it appears he is on the verge of signing a five-year, $148 million contract extension with Minnesota.

                    I wouldn't drop that price at all. I would demand more if I were the Cavs. If they don't like the Cavs asking for Wiggins, then how would they like them asking for Towns.

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                      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                      My respect for Kyrie the man (not kyrie the basketball player) is dropping

                      Kyrie Irving reportedly is not interested in signing an extension with any team at this point.

                      Irving wants out of Cleveland, but with two years left on his contract, he's not willing to sign a long-term deal with whoever trades for him. The Suns still look like the team that will be able to offer the Cavs the most enticing trade package for Irving, but their unwillingness to include Josh Jackson in any deal for Uncle Drew has been a stumbling block in trade talks thus far.
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                        My respect for Kyrie the man (not kyrie the basketball player) is dropping

                        Kyrie Irving reportedly is not interested in signing an extension with any team at this point.

                        Irving wants out of Cleveland, but with two years left on his contract, he's not willing to sign a long-term deal with whoever trades for him. The Suns still look like the team that will be able to offer the Cavs the most enticing trade package for Irving, but their unwillingness to include Josh Jackson in any deal for Uncle Drew has been a stumbling block in trade talks thus far.
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                        @stillmotion said:

                        My respect for Kyrie the man (not kyrie the basketball player) is dropping

                        Kyrie Irving reportedly is not interested in signing an extension with any team at this point.

                        Irving wants out of Cleveland, but with two years left on his contract, he's not willing to sign a long-term deal with whoever trades for him. The Suns still look like the team that will be able to offer the Cavs the most enticing trade package for Irving, but their unwillingness to include Josh Jackson in any deal for Uncle Drew has been a stumbling block in trade talks thus far.

                        This is a bad look for Kyrie

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                        • The GipperT The Gipper

                          @stillmotion said:

                          In trade talks with the Wolves, the Cavs have requested a package of Andrew Wiggins and "something of substance" in exchange for Kyrie Irving, according to Darren Wolfson of ESPN.

                          Unsurprisingly, the Wolves are reportedly not interested in giving up Wiggins plus additional pieces to land Irving. Cleveland's demands have been very high since word leaked that Irving had requested a trade. We shall see if the price drops as the Cavs get closer to training camp. As for Wiggins, it appears he is on the verge of signing a five-year, $148 million contract extension with Minnesota.

                          I wouldn't drop that price at all. I would demand more if I were the Cavs. If they don't like the Cavs asking for Wiggins, then how would they like them asking for Towns.

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          I wouldn't drop that price at all. I would demand more if I were the Cavs. If they don't like the Cavs asking for Wiggins, then how would they like them asking for Towns.

                          The Wolves would be insane to trade either Wiggins or Towns for Irving. I'm a big fan of Irving's game but he is far from perfect. He is a scorer, which isn't a bad thing, but that's really all he is.

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            I wouldn't drop that price at all. I would demand more if I were the Cavs. If they don't like the Cavs asking for Wiggins, then how would they like them asking for Towns.

                            The Wolves would be insane to trade either Wiggins or Towns for Irving. I'm a big fan of Irving's game but he is far from perfect. He is a scorer, which isn't a bad thing, but that's really all he is.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @baconhound said:

                            The Wolves would be insane to trade either Wiggins or Towns for Irving. I'm a big fan of Irving's game but he is far from perfect. He is a scorer, which isn't a bad thing, but that's really all he is.

                            Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                            But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

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                              @baconhound said:

                              The Wolves would be insane to trade either Wiggins or Towns for Irving. I'm a big fan of Irving's game but he is far from perfect. He is a scorer, which isn't a bad thing, but that's really all he is.

                              Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                              But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                              But, here is my view: King the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento s. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

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                              • The GipperT The Gipper

                                @baconhound said:

                                The Wolves would be insane to trade either Wiggins or Towns for Irving. I'm a big fan of Irving's game but he is far from perfect. He is a scorer, which isn't a bad thing, but that's really all he is.

                                Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                                But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                                But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

                                If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                                  But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

                                  If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @baconhound said:

                                  If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

                                  The Kings have some pretty good young talent. I would have to check their roster to see names...but they are there. So a couple of those guys could be worthy of a deal such as this. Plus draft picks. I have no interest in sending him to Boston. Like I said, send him to Siberia.

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Perhaps true. Nevertheless....if the Cavs were to make a trade with them....one of them would have to be included.

                                    But, here is my view: the Cavs should send Kyrie to the Siberia of the NBA: the Sacramento Kings. They always suck....but they do have some nice young players.

                                    If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

                                    Didn't really want to see the Nets pick included but Uncle Drew welcome to Boston!

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      If you are going to send him to a non-contender they better find someone who at least has talent. Unfortunately most bad teams only have one talented guy and it makes no sense to swap one talented guy for another in the NBA. I'd love to see Boston trade Crowder & Thomas for Irving but it just ain't gonna happen.

                                      Didn't really want to see the Nets pick included but Uncle Drew welcome to Boston!

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      Didn't really want to see the Nets pick included but Uncle Drew welcome to Boston!

                                      Why? Are you a Boston fan?

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                                        Once again we will not go anywhere again, We have all young players so I look for them to shop Klove, I like Kevin but he should be on a team that has a chance to do something, I am sure he is happy he no longer has to deal with Lebron but who knows for sureĀ 

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                                          Once again we will not go anywhere again, We have all young players so I look for them to shop Klove, I like Kevin but he should be on a team that has a chance to do something, I am sure he is happy he no longer has to deal with Lebron but who knows for sureĀ 

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                                          @medicineman said:

                                          Once again we will not go anywhere again, We have all young players so I look for them to shop Klove, I like Kevin but he should be on a team that has a chance to do something, I am sure he is happy he no longer has to deal with Lebron but who knows for sureĀ 

                                          Maybe he will go to the Lakers

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