Terrell Davis: The Big Pussy
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I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
First football, then guitar. That SB crap is why all them thar Steelers are in the HOF. I freaking guarantee you if Clay Matthews had played in Shitsburgh- he'd have been in- long ago.
And regarding guitar you forgot my left handed Idol Tom. Jimi H. Sloppy? Sure. Incredible reach, lightning fast, master of electronic shit. No one even attempted to cover his stuff in public until Stevie Ray Vaughn came along.
First football, then guitar. That SB crap is why all them thar Steelers are in the HOF. I freaking guarantee you if Clay Matthews had played in Shitsburgh- he'd have been in- long ago.
And regarding guitar you forgot my left handed Idol Tom. Jimi H. Sloppy? Sure. Incredible reach, lightning fast, master of electronic shit. No one even attempted to cover his stuff in public until Stevie Ray Vaughn came along.
Then you never heard of Frank Marino.. who covered Hendrix long before Stevie Ray did.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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Zombo said:
Clapton plays a very good guitar and named Prince as the Greatest guitar player he has ever seen.
Here is the list of guys that ran for 2000 yards in the NFL and helped their team win a Super Bowl:
Terrell Davis.
Z
Prince is the most overhyped guitarist ever,, comparing him to greats like Allen Holdsworth or Al DiMeola is comical in everysense of the word.
Prince is the most overhyped guitarist ever
I agree completely. The vast majority of his songs are complete shit that don't stand up.. you don't listen to him while driving. People have to be remembering some positive thing that happened in their past while they listened to it and the memory just gets further idolized with age.. Or cocaine, one of the two.
As a performer? Sure, Prince is great on stage.. but as a songwriter, he's right there with the awfulness known as Lou Reed.
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Actually until his first knee injury he averaged 1900 yds per year and is the Broncos all-time leading rusher. Pro bowl 3 of those 4 seasons. Injuries kept him from being one of the best ever in what amounted to a 4 year career. Not bad for a 6th rounder.
Meanwhile back at the HoF... the football HoF...
Actually until his first knee injury he averaged 1900 yds per year and is the Broncos all-time leading rusher. Pro bowl 3 of those 4 seasons. Injuries kept him from being one of the best ever in what amounted to a 4 year career. Not bad for a 6th rounder.
Total yards... Rushing alone he averaged ~1600 yd/yr his first four years missing 3 games in that time... so he averaged over 100 ypg. That's rarefied air there...
If you penalize Davis for a short career due to injury, then there are other players whose busts need to be removed from the Hall... starting with Gale Sayers.
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hee hee hee.
this year is gonna be great!!
we'll soon know who can hang or who will hang themselves!!
as the great Carnac would say.... "what is you're all fired!!".
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Meanwhile back at the HoF... the football HoF...
Actually until his first knee injury he averaged 1900 yds per year and is the Broncos all-time leading rusher. Pro bowl 3 of those 4 seasons. Injuries kept him from being one of the best ever in what amounted to a 4 year career. Not bad for a 6th rounder.
Total yards... Rushing alone he averaged ~1600 yd/yr his first four years missing 3 games in that time... so he averaged over 100 ypg. That's rarefied air there...
If you penalize Davis for a short career due to injury, then there are other players whose busts need to be removed from the Hall... starting with Gale Sayers.
Meanwhile back at the HoF... the football HoF...
Total yards... Rushing alone he averaged ~1600 yd/yr his first four years missing 3 games in that time... so he averaged over 100 ypg. That's rarefied air there...
If you penalize Davis for a short career due to injury, then there are other players whose busts need to be removed from the Hall... starting with Gale Sayers.
And that extra 300 yds receiving per year just adds extra skill many RB's don't have.
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So is Chris Johnson a HOFer?Zombo said:
Clapton plays a very good guitar and named Prince as the Greatest guitar player he has ever seen.
Here is the list of guys that ran for 2000 yards in the NFL and helped their team win a Super Bowl:
Terrell Davis.
Z
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Zombo said:
Clapton plays a very good guitar and named Prince as the Greatest guitar player he has ever seen.
Here is the list of guys that ran for 2000 yards in the NFL and helped their team win a Super Bowl:
Terrell Davis.
Z
Prince is the most overhyped guitarist ever,, comparing him to greats like Allen Holdsworth or Al DiMeola is comical in everysense of the word.
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So is Chris Johnson a HOFer?Zombo said:
Clapton plays a very good guitar and named Prince as the Greatest guitar player he has ever seen.
Here is the list of guys that ran for 2000 yards in the NFL and helped their team win a Super Bowl:
Terrell Davis.
Z
So is Chris Johnson a HOFer?
Good question... certainly was building a resume his first 6 years. And he surprised when he stepped into his more recent AZ opportunity. If he gets another shot and cashes it...
What does it take in this modern, passing era for a RB to make the Hall? Who are the no-brainers of today not named AP?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The guy was a very good back. Great? You can debate that one until your balls fall off. I am looking forward to football. I really couldn't care less aboud this HOF shit. Some players belong, some are iffy, some don't belong. C'mon guys, you know this shit is largely political and a lot of times a matter of "who you know" or a matter of does the story behind the guy enhance the NFL patting themselves on the back.
I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
The guy was a very good back. Great? You can debate that one until your balls fall off. I am looking forward to football. I really couldn't care less aboud this HOF shit. Some players belong, some are iffy, some don't belong. C'mon guys, you know this shit is largely political and a lot of times a matter of "who you know" or a matter of does the story behind the guy enhance the NFL patting themselves on the back.
I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
Talking guitar players, I saw Brian Setzer last night. Freakin dude brings it... Had no idea how good he is!?!?!?!?!?
Like your list... I'd add Hendrix.
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A guitar gem I took a flyer on years ago...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chester-amp-lester-mw0000608766
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
So is Chris Johnson a HOFer?
Good question... certainly was building a resume his first 6 years. And he surprised when he stepped into his more recent AZ opportunity. If he gets another shot and cashes it...
What does it take in this modern, passing era for a RB to make the Hall? Who are the no-brainers of today not named AP?
Good question... certainly was building a resume his first 6 years. And he surprised when he stepped into his more recent AZ opportunity. If he gets another shot and cashes it...
What does it take in this modern, passing era for a RB to make the Hall? Who are the no-brainers of today not named AP?
None
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The guy was a very good back. Great? You can debate that one until your balls fall off. I am looking forward to football. I really couldn't care less aboud this HOF shit. Some players belong, some are iffy, some don't belong. C'mon guys, you know this shit is largely political and a lot of times a matter of "who you know" or a matter of does the story behind the guy enhance the NFL patting themselves on the back.
I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
What do you think about the Late Alvin Lee of "Ten Years After"??
What do you think about the Late Alvin Lee of "Ten Years After"??
He was a nice player. Very nice player.Under-heralded. He played some tasteful things.
Regarding Clapton. I never said he sucked, he just isn't that good. Overall, very talented. He couldn't make a living as a studio guitar player. That's the point. He would shit his pants as a studio player.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
The guy was a very good back. Great? You can debate that one until your balls fall off. I am looking forward to football. I really couldn't care less aboud this HOF shit. Some players belong, some are iffy, some don't belong. C'mon guys, you know this shit is largely political and a lot of times a matter of "who you know" or a matter of does the story behind the guy enhance the NFL patting themselves on the back.
I will say this, and as much as it irritates the purist fan, A SB ring, SB MVP, SB accolades will, without fail propel a player far above better players who never got those accolades and trophies.
Music is the same way. Clapton, a great songwriter, performer and singer, is at best, a modest and very average guitar player. Yet, I guarantee you a bunch of people (mostly with no musical training) are going to jump in and say what a great guitarist he is. But he isn't. His shit is simple. Doesn't matter, he had a boost from the very beginning because of who he played with and when he played. Again, HOF performer, songwriter? No debate.
Guitar wizard? Fuck, man, he can't play. Steve Lukather? Now THAT is a bad, bad motherfucker. Can play better than Clapton using his nutsack.........but it doesn't matter. Some jackoffs believe the hype.
Terrell Davis? If he played the guitar he would be Clapton or BB King.
Django, Atkins, Tedesco, Knoppfler, Jerry Reed, Hellecasters, Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Joe Pass, Pizzarelli, Travis....NOW you are talking guitar.
Talking guitar players, I saw Brian Setzer last night. Freakin dude brings it... Had no idea how good he is!?!?!?!?!?
Like your list... I'd add Hendrix.
Talking guitar players, I saw Brian Setzer last night. Freakin dude brings it... Had no idea how good he is!?!?!?!?!?
Like your list... I'd add Hendrix.
Setzer is indeed good. Very versitile. Always liked the guy.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
A guitar gem I took a flyer on years ago...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chester-amp-lester-mw0000608766
A guitar gem I took a flyer on years ago...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/chester-amp-lester-mw0000608766
I grew up coping the Chester and Lester stuff. Two great players. Les was a bit too abstractly jazz oriented for my taste.
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Terrelle Davis is a HOF running back because he is being inducted today into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
So, I guess that answers that question.
Its like being pregnant. You either are or you aren't. Davis is.....by definition.
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So is Chris Johnson a HOFer?
Good question... certainly was building a resume his first 6 years. And he surprised when he stepped into his more recent AZ opportunity. If he gets another shot and cashes it...
What does it take in this modern, passing era for a RB to make the Hall? Who are the no-brainers of today not named AP?
Good question... certainly was building a resume his first 6 years. And he surprised when he stepped into his more recent AZ opportunity. If he gets another shot and cashes it...
What does it take in this modern, passing era for a RB to make the Hall? Who are the no-brainers of today not named AP?
Id say there are not any "no brainers"...outside of AP.....and I think the passing era has a LOT to do with that. Simply not the opportunities there used to be for a back to carry a team and rack up huge #'s.....
Some potential HOFers playing now?.....Lynch, Elliot, Bell & Gore,
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First football, then guitar. That SB crap is why all them thar Steelers are in the HOF. I freaking guarantee you if Clay Matthews had played in Shitsburgh- he'd have been in- long ago.
And regarding guitar you forgot my left handed Idol Tom. Jimi H. Sloppy? Sure. Incredible reach, lightning fast, master of electronic shit. No one even attempted to cover his stuff in public until Stevie Ray Vaughn came along.
Then you never heard of Frank Marino.. who covered Hendrix long before Stevie Ray did.
Mahogany Rush - Strange Universe one of my all time favorites.Then you never heard of Frank Marino.. who covered Hendrix long before Stevie Ray did.
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