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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    Dunkirk

    Warner Brothers

    PG13. 106 min

    It occurred to me just the other day that when asked I will normally say I'm not a big fan of war movies. Then I started to think of some of the truly great war movies that popped to mind including FULL METAL JACKET, APOCALYPSE NOW, BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER KWAI, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN etcetera. So maybe I will need to soften that stance even though I have been less enthusiastic about some of the recent war films about Desert Storm and some of the more recent US skirmishes.

    World War II is just close enough to reset memory, as most of us know some actual World War II veterans, and gives us a true black and white as far as good vs Evil. The Nazis really are the universal bad guys . Also its far back enough in history that modern day politics dont have such a grip on the subject matter. This film DUNKIRK is something of a slice of Life film about a short period during the evacuation of allied soldiers from the infamous Battle of Dunkirk and the people involved in that rescue.

    The Nazis had advanced and trapped hundreds of thousands who would have surely perished if not for a consolidated effort of naval and civilian seamen who were able to rescue upwards of three hundred thousand. The bravery of everyone involved in this, and almost any war, is astounding. Director Christopher Nolan puts together a two-hour view that almost seems like a real time documentary of the events. Unfortunately despite the fact that that was the aim of the film I dont think it particularly works as a movie. Is that blasphemy? To expect a motion picture to have some entertainment value or to speak in less than glowing terms of Nolan? Sorry.

    There are a very few characters that the story has to concern itself with, a young boy who has stowed away on a pleasure craft and the owner of said yacht who is committed to rescuing the forces. There is a shell shocked castaway and a handful of others on this particular boat and frequent flashes to a pilot whose engines will be damaged and forced to touch down on the beach, but only a tiny bit of attention to the differences and the interactions between them. Its almost as if Nolan just turned on a camera during the battle and let it run. I would have much preferred a closer look at some of the human stories of the people involved. It is because of this dry and almost voyeuristic view of the rescue operation that DUNKIRK fails to achieve any empathy with the audience, which is a shame because the filmmaking is impeccable and the characters, even though we never really get to know them, truly heroic.

    Sorry but for those reasons I cant muster up a grade over

    C-

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      I basically agree. In fact, prior to seeing this movie I had found at our library a BBC dramatic interpretation of the events at Dunkirk that was actually better (and longer...so it involved more of the story....including telling the story of the soldiers, including the French who had to "hold the line" while the cross channel escape was being made).

      Here is the wikipedia description of that series:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkirk_(TV_series) (made in 2004 it seems)

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        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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        Because as even the French know love isn't always on time.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Freedom Fries!

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            Because as even the French know love isn't always on time.

            WSS

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            Because as even the French know love isn't always on time.

            WSS

            10CC?...or Toto?

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              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              I read where some feminazi movie reviewer wasn't happy because of the lack of female characters in the movie. Does this gal want us to re-write history to make her happy?

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                I read where some feminazi movie reviewer wasn't happy because of the lack of female characters in the movie. Does this gal want us to re-write history to make her happy?

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @oldbrownsfan said:

                I read where some feminazi movie reviewer wasn't happy because of the lack of female characters in the movie. Does this gal want us to re-write history to make her happy?

                I mean, I suppose they could have put in some phony love story, like they did in the movie Pearl Harbor. That movie was dreadful because of that "love story". If they had left it to the historical scenes...the "action" scenes, it would have been a much better movie.

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                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                  So you think there were no incidents of human interest of any of those people that could have been explored?

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                    So you think there were no incidents of human interest of any of those people that could have been explored?

                    WSS

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    So you think there were no incidents of human interest of any of those people that could have been explored?

                    WSS

                    You talking to me? Or someone else?

                    I will assume you were talking to me.

                    The answer is: yes. And as I said, the 2004 BBC program did some of that. But I don't think that a phony love story like the one in Pearl Harbor would have enhanced this current show, not at all.

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                      stillmotionS stillmotion wrote on last edited by
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                      Nolan always has problems with lack of character development.

                      However, I did like this one. Would've gave it 4 stars myself, and the score by Zimmer is amazing. 

                      War films are way too cliche nowadays ago.

                      I miss films like A matter of life and death, apocalypse now, and the best years of our lives,

                      a good script is always what's lacking nowadays, and this is too predictable. 

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                        mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                        I've always been a BIG WWII buff but I've just watched the first 50 minutes of DUNKIRK and it's awful so far.

                        I will finish watching it now.

                        .........edit add, my final grade, A - subject matter, very important. D maybe, it stunk.

                        GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                          mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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                          I guess I'm not the only one on the $100M dud, from IMBd vewiers reviews......

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                          GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                            As I have noted elsewhere I think in the barbershop the Tom Hardy character was based basically on my cousin Alan Deere

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                              JPPT1974J JPPT1974 wrote on last edited by
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                              Well love movies that show those of in the USA the Greatest Generation and their allies fighting the enemy the sake of humanity and mankind. Need to see this movie. Love WWII things.

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