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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    For your perusal, I don't find much to disagree with, other than (to my mind) they're being too kind to the Ostrich. Yeah- there were drops, and Turnstile Erving didn't help matters, but he had a lot of very inaccurate passes.

    http://scout.com/nfl/browns/Article/Cleveland-Browns-Win-Versus-New-Orleans-Saints-Pros-and-Cons-Lis-106009359?utm_source=Scout%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170811_125827_Cleveland%20Browns&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=CA-1F-A7-07-02-43-35-CA-71-7D-7D-AF-89-03-3E-6C170811_125827ClevelandBrowns

    Per the article, yes, there was a lot of miscommunication between Ostrich and his WRs. And BO was under a lot of pressure due to Cam Erving's incompetence.

    One "con" perhaps not stated in that article...though the QB/WR "miscommunication" may be part of it: both of our starting WRs had below par...below expected performances. Coleman and Britt. They have to step it up. Ricardo Louis looked good though. And Mullaney did some good things.

    Was there even a Rashard Higgins sighting? And what about Jordan Payton? (Or is it Payton Jordan)....did he do anything.

    We may have to look seriously at a WR in the top of next year's draft.

    @the-gipper said:

    may be part of it: both of our starting WRs had below par...below expected performances. Coleman and Britt. They have to step it up. Ricardo Louis looked good though. And Mullaney did some good things.

    Was there even a Rashard Higgins sighting? And what about Jordan Payton? (Or is it Payton Jordan)....did he do anything.

    We may have to look seriously at a WR in the top of next year's draft.

    Eagles traded Jordan Matthews today for a 3rd rounder would have been nice..Sammy Watkins shipped to Rams today. damn shame we just got nothing out of that trade? Jordan Payton is correct out of UCLA, PED 4 games sat last season..The newbie is Leslie Jordan WR out of BYU with a few NFL stops.Higgins never saw a look from QB.With Duke getting work at slot,wonder is how many WR's we keep?

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    For your perusal, I don't find much to disagree with, other than (to my mind) they're being too kind to the Ostrich. Yeah- there were drops, and Turnstile Erving didn't help matters, but he had a lot of very inaccurate passes.

    http://scout.com/nfl/browns/Article/Cleveland-Browns-Win-Versus-New-Orleans-Saints-Pros-and-Cons-Lis-106009359?utm_source=Scout%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170811_125827_Cleveland%20Browns&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=CA-1F-A7-07-02-43-35-CA-71-7D-7D-AF-89-03-3E-6C170811_125827ClevelandBrowns

    Per the article, yes, there was a lot of miscommunication between Ostrich and his WRs. And BO was under a lot of pressure due to Cam Erving's incompetence.

    One "con" perhaps not stated in that article...though the QB/WR "miscommunication" may be part of it: both of our starting WRs had below par...below expected performances. Coleman and Britt. They have to step it up. Ricardo Louis looked good though. And Mullaney did some good things.

    Was there even a Rashard Higgins sighting? And what about Jordan Payton? (Or is it Payton Jordan)....did he do anything.

    We may have to look seriously at a WR in the top of next year's draft.

    @the-gipper said:

    Per the article, yes, there was a lot of miscommunication between Ostrich and his WRs. And BO was under a lot of pressure due to Cam Erving's incompetence.

    One "con" perhaps not stated in that article...though the QB/WR "miscommunication" may be part of it: both of our starting WRs had below par...below expected performances. Coleman and Britt. They have to step it up. Ricardo Louis looked good though. And Mullaney did some good things.

    Was there even a Rashard Higgins sighting? And what about Jordan Payton? (Or is it Payton Jordan)....did he do anything.

    We may have to look seriously at a WR in the top of next year's draft.

    and what should we expect from osweiller he had what 2 days of practice with the one's ?

    also what happened to the running game hue promised us ? seemed a bit pass happy to me and also fuck those damn gimmick plays

  • From what I saw, Danny sure was disappointing...... So much hype, too little muscle mass.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @the-gipper said:

    may be part of it: both of our starting WRs had below par...below expected performances. Coleman and Britt. They have to step it up. Ricardo Louis looked good though. And Mullaney did some good things.

    Was there even a Rashard Higgins sighting? And what about Jordan Payton? (Or is it Payton Jordan)....did he do anything.

    We may have to look seriously at a WR in the top of next year's draft.

    Eagles traded Jordan Matthews today for a 3rd rounder would have been nice..Sammy Watkins shipped to Rams today. damn shame we just got nothing out of that trade? Jordan Payton is correct out of UCLA, PED 4 games sat last season..The newbie is Leslie Jordan WR out of BYU with a few NFL stops.Higgins never saw a look from QB.With Duke getting work at slot,wonder is how many WR's we keep?

    @gumby73 said:

    Eagles traded Jordan Matthews today for a 3rd rounder would have been nice..Sammy Watkins shipped to Rams today.

    Wow! really...that is a lot of movement of supposedly big time WRs.

    damn shame we just got nothing out of that trade? Jordan Payton is correct out of UCLA, PED 4 games sat last season..The newbie is Leslie Jordan WR out of BYU with a few NFL stops.

    OK, but, what about right here, right now. Saw none of him last night. Is he cut bait?

    Higgins never saw a look from QB.With Duke getting work at slot,wonder is how many WR's we keep?

    Is Higgins cut bait as well? I think Duke needs to stay at RB....but I don't mind that he slots out a bunch.

    Can Crowe and Dayes handle the RB duties?

    gumby73G 1 Reply
  • D BoneD D Bone

    From what I saw, Danny sure was disappointing...... So much hype, too little muscle mass.

    @d-bone said:

    From what I saw, Danny sure was disappointing...... So much hype, too little muscle mass.

    There be's some blubber on that boy for sure. I think he will be OK though.

  • The team looks significantly improved. All that matters.

    T 1 Reply

  • Too many damn Penalties . . . this just drives me nuts year after year \smh

    Rushing game seemed to disappear, but stats show we put up 71 yards on 22 attempts (3 were by Kizer).

    Jordan Payton had one catch . . . for 45yds & a TD

    First Team D didn't look as good as I expected - still got gashed early on the ground

    Caveats:

    Brock didn't get a lot of reps with the first Team until just this week . . . only two days worth I believe.

    Brock had a weak left side in Cam Erving @ LT, but in fairness I don't know that Cam got a lot of first Team reps either.

    Kizer got no reps with the first Team this week since he is/was 3rd string . . .

    Heard they intentionally gave Kizer a bad Headset in his Helmet to see his reaction and how he handled it

    Fair amount of drops by our WR's

    Taking the Kizer elements into consideration, not too shabby for a Rookie QB . . . we've certainly seen worse.

    Kid seemed to be learning and growing right before our eyes as he played . . .

    Long way to go, but at the Press interview he was talking about things he needed to work on/fix instead of highlights of the just completed game . . . good quality to see in a young QB, shows a bit of fire for the game.

    I actually enjoyed the game quite a bit, been a long time since I could say that.

    First Pre-Season game, lots to fix on both sides, but there appears to be a spark . . . maybe even a Gleam . . .

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gumby73 said:

    Eagles traded Jordan Matthews today for a 3rd rounder would have been nice..Sammy Watkins shipped to Rams today.

    Wow! really...that is a lot of movement of supposedly big time WRs.

    damn shame we just got nothing out of that trade? Jordan Payton is correct out of UCLA, PED 4 games sat last season..The newbie is Leslie Jordan WR out of BYU with a few NFL stops.

    OK, but, what about right here, right now. Saw none of him last night. Is he cut bait?

    Higgins never saw a look from QB.With Duke getting work at slot,wonder is how many WR's we keep?

    Is Higgins cut bait as well? I think Duke needs to stay at RB....but I don't mind that he slots out a bunch.

    Can Crowe and Dayes handle the RB duties?

    @the-gipper said:

    @gumby73 said:

    Eagles traded Jordan Matthews today for a 3rd rounder would have been nice..Sammy Watkins shipped to Rams today.

    Wow! really...that is a lot of movement of supposedly big time WRs.

    damn shame we just got nothing out of that trade? Jordan Payton is correct out of UCLA, PED 4 games sat last season..The newbie is Leslie Jordan WR out of BYU with a few NFL stops.

    OK, but, what about right here, right now. Saw none of him last night. Is he cut bait?

    Higgins never saw a look from QB.With Duke getting work at slot,wonder is how many WR's we keep?

    Is Higgins cut bait as well? I think Duke needs to stay at RB....but I don't mind that he slots out a bunch.

    Can Crowe and Dayes handle the RB duties?

    the giants should give us a better depth on defense 1's,2's,3's.No team is in the cutting business yet cause stars such as Camella Erving step in for JT's all around..Pre-season games 2 & 3 sometimes starts some real game personnel. But Coaches put nothing on tape..imo Higgins, both Jordan's,the Bama kid? & Hall are in a battle for Final 4th & 5th WR. Duke/Peppers is 6th WR to open another roster spot if needed? Crows the healthiest banger that the league knows. But if we remember, Duke got greeted by the NFL running between tackles, but paid for it most the season injured. Till we put a fully capable O-line out to block you can't say Matthew Dayes can pound in-between tackle either. Nor get the QB's alarm clock ready to get ball out of pocket..it's going to be a long 9 days till Giants gip..imo Williams defense may win us 2 at best 3 games..But how many games can Hue's offense get us is the biggest question..

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Reading this thread, through our roller coaster of emotions. Football's back!

    @mld-woody said:

    Reading this thread, through our roller coaster of emotions. Football's back!

    No roller coaster for this guy. We still suck

  • Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    D BoneD jrb12711J gumby73G bjh2130B 4 Replies
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  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Thanks..... Damn exOSU thug's suspension coverage on NFLnetwork killed all of his 4qtr work.

    JAFBFJ gumby73G 2 Replies
  • D BoneD D Bone

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Thanks..... Damn exOSU thug's suspension coverage on NFLnetwork killed all of his 4qtr work.

    @d-bone said:

    Thanks..... Damn exOSU thug's suspension coverage on NFLnetwork killed all of his 4qtr work.

    Here are game highlights - Keesler has a nice throw in here as well.

  • W wargograw

    The team looks significantly improved. All that matters.

    @wargograw said:

    The team looks significantly improved. All that matters.

    Yes they are. I especially enjoyed how well the defense kept swarming to the ball full speed and even more how few tackles were missed unlike last year when that seemed a constant problem.

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Man, I'm not one to get my hopes up but there's a lot of great throws in that video. When you consider there was one for sure drop and two for sure throw aways, that's a pretty damn good days work.

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Thanks..... Damn exOSU thug's suspension coverage on NFLnetwork killed all of his 4qtr work.

    @d-bone said:

    Thanks..... Damn exOSU thug's suspension coverage on NFLnetwork killed all of his 4qtr work.

    If it's not the Brady Network yet, his other Patriots at the TV controls will damn sure try to make it be..damn shame nobody got to see a good Kizer showing, over a story that The NFL will be damn sure they stay on the front pages with..For AWHILE..

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  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Awesome..Now it's A Happy Friday.thanks

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    TopDawg31T 1 Reply

  • Yep, kid seems to have the Pocket presence and keeps his focus down field . . . definitely has an arm, that last throw looks like he just flicked his wrist and it was gone.

    The other video has some good highlights too . . . O & D

  • JAFBFJ JAFBF

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    @jafbf said:

    Here's a video of all Kizer's passes last night:

    Think they may have missed one stay route early on that he fired in low and away that was caught that was a well placed ball.

  • For anyone who is interested, NFLN will repeat the game Monday at 1pm...hopefully there will be no breaking news to preempt the second half this time around.

    Being in Florida, I listened to the game on the Browns' site and followed the stats and highlights on nfl.com.

    From what I heard/saw, I'm very optimistic about Kizer, but one preseason game does not a career make...especially against the third stringers. Let's hope he continues to improve and that Hue will give him his chance when he is ready to take over

  • Myles is used to uncalled holds as pictured in this article on 5 takeaways from the game.

    http://www.wkyc.com/sports/nfl/browns/5-takeaways-from-the-cleveland-browns-preseason-win-vs-the-new-orelans-saints/463544593

    And nice article about Orchard/Schobert

    http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Joe-Schobert-Nate-Orchard-singled-out-by-Hue-Jackson-106026269?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170811_193636_Cleveland%20Browns%20Newsletter&utm_content=Image&liveconnect=1B-C2-1E-69-15-F3-1E-26-47-C2-FB-AF-1F-3D-14-30170811_193636ClevelandBrownsNewsletter

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