Be honest, How does everybody feel about Brock as a starter
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For those thinking Myles will produce more than a franchise QB will, compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
TJ watt had 2 plays on Future Hall of Famer Josh Johnson.. One sack he was unblocked and the other Josh walked into TJ's otherwise-shut-down arms. Aside from those 2 plays, Ereck Flowers stoned Watt..
So.. TJ getting blocked by one player while Myles receiving a double-team all night is.. looking like a bust?
"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
For those thinking Myles will produce more than a franchise QB will, compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
For those thinking Myles will produce more than a franchise QB will, compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
Compare Myles to Trubisky.....the BEST player in the past 5 NFL drafts. THe Browns FO is puking in their own Bush.
Garrett looked.................... yawn...........................so very average. Nothing remarkable.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Yep....lots of them too.....Britt, Hall and Boyce all had blatant ones......and there was a complete lack of winning balls or great catches, which is the job of quality receivers....
QB's are not always afforded the ease of hitting wide open receivers....so it's the QB's job to just get the ball close enough for the WR to go get it.....and to place it where the other guy cant get it......Our WR's dont appear to know how to win their part of that equation....
What do you want Mud, pro receivers too?
What do you want Mud, pro receivers too?
yep.....
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I figure a quarterback is only super important to the team if he is a franchise quarterback in the top 7 to 10 and the league. Maybe even top five.
I'd rather have JJ watt then most of the quarterbacks in the league. By far.
WSS
EditI figure a quarterback is only super important to the team if he is a franchise quarterback in the top 7 to 10 and the league. Maybe even top five.
I'd rather have JJ watt than most of the quarterbacks in the league. By far.
WSS
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compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
TJ watt had 2 plays on Future Hall of Famer Josh Johnson.. One sack he was unblocked and the other Josh walked into TJ's otherwise-shut-down arms. Aside from those 2 plays, Ereck Flowers stoned Watt..
So.. TJ getting blocked by one player while Myles receiving a double-team all night is.. looking like a bust?
The preseason is full of scrubs everywhere, as you pointed out, myles double teamed and nobody else shined, that's gonna be alot of fun to watch. That will be the case all season long.TJ watt had 2 plays on Future Hall of Famer Josh Johnson.. One sack he was unblocked and the other Josh walked into TJ's otherwise-shut-down arms. Aside from those 2 plays, Ereck Flowers stoned Watt..
So.. TJ getting blocked by one player while Myles receiving a double-team all night is.. looking like a bust?
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http://espn.com/blog/cleveland//post/_/id/3658 maybe? but who starts preseason game 3 should be telling..Brock even in Denver seemed "to Jacked-up" & nothing has changed imo..If you ever played, when the lights come on,some do over-grip it losing touch on ball..QB coach David Lee may have found something here in Brock? Not sure it's fixable watching him in Houston either. Unless the pressure of O'Brien made it worse?
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For those thinking Myles will produce more than a franchise QB will, compare Myles game to the #30 overall pick TJ Watt. His stats in his debut make Myles look like a bust.
Compare Myles to Trubisky.....the BEST player in the past 5 NFL drafts. THe Browns FO is puking in their own Bush.
Garrett looked.................... yawn...........................so very average. Nothing remarkable.
Compare Myles to Trubisky.....the BEST player in the past 5 NFL drafts. THe Browns FO is puking in their own Bush.
Garrett looked.................... yawn...........................so very average. Nothing remarkable.
And then I keep remembering this about him.. He clearly does not want to be here....
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Compare Myles to Trubisky.....the BEST player in the past 5 NFL drafts. THe Browns FO is puking in their own Bush.
Garrett looked.................... yawn...........................so very average. Nothing remarkable.
And then I keep remembering this about him.. He clearly does not want to be here....
And then I keep remembering this about him.. He clearly does not want to be here....
If you really believe that shit why don't you just go to Berea and ask him directly whether he really wants to be a Brown. I've heard him talk very favorably in comparing the passion of Browns football fans to the same passion he experienced from Aggie football fans. I think he feels very much at home with the Browns.
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And then I keep remembering this about him.. He clearly does not want to be here....
If you really believe that shit why don't you just go to Berea and ask him directly whether he really wants to be a Brown. I've heard him talk very favorably in comparing the passion of Browns football fans to the same passion he experienced from Aggie football fans. I think he feels very much at home with the Browns.
If you really believe that shit why don't you just go to Berea and ask him directly whether he really wants to be a Brown. I've heard him talk very favorably in comparing the passion of Browns football fans to the same passion he experienced from Aggie football fans. I think he feels very much at home with the Browns.
Don't be a fucking moron. He isn't going to tell the Browns fans or anyone else what he really thinks. His agent, parents and everyone else jumped right on him after the video to retract what he said.
I suppose you would be surprised to hear FLugel say he loved his wife at their family reunion, too? LMAO.
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Compare Myles to Trubisky.....the BEST player in the past 5 NFL drafts. THe Browns FO is puking in their own Bush.
Garrett looked.................... yawn...........................so very average. Nothing remarkable.
And then I keep remembering this about him.. He clearly does not want to be here....
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Let's just say it's up to him and Greg Williams but he should be the odds-on favorite for Rookie of the Year.
WSS
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I really do think the trend of starting a rookie QB and letting him take his lumps is probably the best way to grow and evaluate a young talent, but here's the thing: Our first game is against the freaking Steelers in Cleveland. Do you REALLY want to start a rookie QB in front of the home crowd against a team that has perpetually DOMINATED us? I mean, I don't think that's the best option. The Steelers record against us combined with our opening season record means we're going to get completely butt-surfed. I'm one of the most optimistic people on this board, but even I can't come up with a scenario that doesn't have us losing by less than 20 points. I think we have a week 8 or 9 bye...how about starting Brock for those games before the bye, and then starting Kizer afterwards? Is that too late? I'm not sure, but the idea of starting Kizer against the Steelers and then the Ravens doesn't exactly excite me.
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Brock Osweiler is a playoff-caliber quarterback. If he starts and wins I'm glad to hear it. If he starts and sucks and Kizer or Kessler win I'm fine with that too.
WSS
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What's the over/under for the number of games before Ghoolie claims his Garrett rants were all just conversation promoters? That he knew Garrett was going to be be great?
What's the over/under for the number of games before Ghoolie claims his Garrett rants were all just conversation promoters? That he knew Garrett was going to be be great?
LOL! "I was just trolling for grins. I knew he was gonna get 13 sacks his rookie year."-Ghoolie Jan 2018
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You want honesty: Yours is a Stupid attitude. Why don't you wait and see how he plays before you make any foolish judgments. WTF else does this team have that is proven to be better? Not a fucking thing. He may suck...so be it. He may be great...so be it. But give it a chance.
You want honesty: Yours is a Stupid attitude. Why don't you wait and see how he plays before you make any foolish judgments. WTF else does this team have that is proven to be better? Not a fucking thing. He may suck...so be it. He may be great...so be it. But give it a chance.
i have to go with med man.....if he was so great, elway would have worked something out...i got to go with elway also..he's a hall of famer and a pretty fucking good gm. It would be nice to see him do well, but i sure would not fucking bet a dime on it...
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He might look better if Joe Thomas plays instead of our O line mistake Cam Erving.
Sabotage?
WSS
He might look better if Joe Thomas plays instead of our O line mistake Cam Erving.
Sabotage?
WSS
honestly, i am so sick of this fucked up organization that i have not been keeping up, but you say cam erving is still with this team...are you fucking kidding me...guess there is a pretty damn good fucking reason i have not been keeping up the clowns..
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I thought all the QBs were OK, there were drops.....
Yep....lots of them too.....Britt, Hall and Boyce all had blatant ones......and there was a complete lack of winning balls or great catches, which is the job of quality receivers....
QB's are not always afforded the ease of hitting wide open receivers....so it's the QB's job to just get the ball close enough for the WR to go get it.....and to place it where the other guy cant get it......Our WR's dont appear to know how to win their part of that equation....
Yep....lots of them too.....Britt, Hall and Boyce all had blatant ones......and there was a complete lack of winning balls or great catches, which is the job of quality receivers....
QB's are not always afforded the ease of hitting wide open receivers....so it's the QB's job to just get the ball close enough for the WR to go get it.....and to place it where the other guy cant get it......Our WR's dont appear to know how to win their part of that equation....
well mud, we should be used to the shitty free agents....britt is just another example of no half decent free agent wanting to come here...we get either fa's that will be hof candidates but are way over the hill and they are just hanging on for 1 more paycheck before cashing in, or they just stink period. Britts best days are way behind him. I remember when i took him in fantasy either his first or second yr...guy looked like jerry rice..scored like 4td's against the eagles...dem days are loooooooong gone...
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^ He looked good last year in LA.... I'm going to wait until he actually plays a game for THE BROWNS before I crucify him.
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