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  • I'm happy that every neo-nazi who is getting identified as going down to Charlottesville is losing their job. Gotta love the snowflakes who can't handle a private company exercising their free right to disagree with hate speech. The first amendment concerns the GOVERNMENT -- not private companies. There will very well be consequences for that speech -- just not from the .gov.

    I think it's fun that the Nazis quoted "USA" even though.. the confederacy was precisely not America.

    The chant of the group was "Blood and Soil" - the old Nazi chant.

    James Alex Fields

    The guy who ran people down was not a member of a leftist organization -- nice try, but his high school teachers and friends confirm he was fascinated with Nazi Germany. "The quiet boy was deeply into Adolf Hitler and white supremacy."

    Also -- he's on record beating his mother.. on multiple occasions. She's disabled and uses a wheelchair. Just stop - now - because each person posting attempting to defend this guy is simply showing themselves to be a monster. He, as a person, is indefensible. And furthermore his mother was watching his cat this weekend.

    And he killed a woman. What a brave boy!

    Vanguard America [not "american vanguard"] is neither socialist nor leftist -- of course it's a white nationalist hate group. Thanks, but the southern poverty law center has much more credibility than your alt-right poster.

    @unsympathetic said:

    I'm happy that every neo-nazi who is getting identified as going down to Charlottesville is losing their job. Gotta love the snowflakes who can't handle a private company exercising their free right to disagree with hate speech. The first amendment concerns the GOVERNMENT -- not private companies. There will very well be consequences for that speech -- just not from the .gov.

    I think it's fun that the Nazis quoted "USA" even though.. the confederacy was precisely not America.

    The chant of the group was "Blood and Soil" - the old Nazi chant.

    James Alex Fields

    The guy who ran people down was not a member of a leftist organization -- nice try, but his high school teachers and friends confirm he was fascinated with Nazi Germany. "The quiet boy was deeply into Adolf Hitler and white supremacy."

    Also -- he's on record beating his mother.. on multiple occasions. She's disabled and uses a wheelchair. Just stop - now - because each person posting attempting to defend this guy is simply showing themselves to be a monster. He, as a person, is indefensible. And furthermore his mother was watching his cat this weekend.

    And he killed a woman. What a brave boy!

    Vanguard America [not "american vanguard"] is neither socialist nor leftist -- of course it's a white nationalist hate group. Thanks, but the southern poverty law center has much more credibility than your alt-right poster.

    And the chant of black lives matter was pigs (police) in a blanket fry em like bacon. Unlike the mainstream left most mainstream conservatives roundly condemn hate groups like the KKK or neo nazis and the mainstream left needs to start denouncing the haters on the left.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Do you know anything about the civil war? This is a real question. Do you know ANYTHING about the civil war?

    Coming from the guy that took "hey, maybe we shouldn't honor the people we went to war with" and got "he wants to Nuke all the southern states!"

    No, go ahead. Share your wisdom.

    @mld-woody said:

    Coming from the guy that took "hey, maybe we shouldn't honor the people we went to war with" and got "he wants to Nuke all the southern states!"

    No, go ahead. Share your wisdom.

    I thought Michigan grads weren't supposed to be stupid as fuck

  • @mld-woody said:

    Coming from the guy that took "hey, maybe we shouldn't honor the people we went to war with" and got "he wants to Nuke all the southern states!"

    No, go ahead. Share your wisdom.

    I thought Michigan grads weren't supposed to be stupid as fuck

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I thought Michigan grads weren't supposed to be stupid as fuck

    No that's cool. We can pretend your response made sense.

  • @axe said:

    They're all lying, including Fox

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    He's been on the roster of the Cleveland based chapter for 7 yrs

    Uh, idk what you've been reading, but Vanguard America is a white supremacist org; probably the last place a SJW would be welcome:

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/alleged-charlottesville-driver-who-killed-one-rallied-alt-right-vanguard-america-group

    fields-vanguardamerica.png

    The driver is second from the left in the photo. Not exactly the outfit of a SJW.

    @jbluhm86 said:

    Uh, idk what you've been reading, but Vanguard America is a white supremacist org; probably the last place a SJW would be welcome:

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/alleged-charlottesville-driver-who-killed-one-rallied-alt-right-vanguard-america-group

    fields-vanguardamerica.png

    The driver is second from the left in the photo. Not exactly the outfit of a SJW.

    If Axe sees it in a meme, it has to be true

  • They will never change. They just pop up, spew out some propaganda that they made up then change the topic of another issue.

    @medicineman said:

    They will never change. They just pop up, spew out some propaganda that they made up then change the topic of another issue.

    Yes, that is a good way to describe the far left or fat right

  • @baconhound said:

    Not equal but measured. I do believe there are more media outlets that lean liberal but that's not to say the Fox News, Blaze, etc. didn't take a pound of flesh from Obama.

    But back to the original point, if 3 things are wrong why should we excuse any of them?

    I put Fox News as the opposite of MSNBC, but they aren't close to as rabid as MSNBC. I don't even really count The Blaze they are alike Salon Mother Jones Etc.

    And even though I don't read The Blaze Fox News was never as 24/7 Obama hate as MSNBC is. But again back to the original point maybe I'm lost but what are the three wrong things that somebody is or isn't excusing?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I put Fox News as the opposite of MSNBC, but they aren't close to as rabid as MSNBC. I don't even really count The Blaze they are alike Salon Mother Jones Etc.

    And even though I don't read The Blaze Fox News was never as 24/7 Obama hate as MSNBC is. But again back to the original point maybe I'm lost but what are the three wrong things that somebody is or isn't excusing?

    WSS

    Obama not mentioning Islamic Terrorism and more stringently denouncing violence against law enforcement as retaliation. Trump not condemning the "white nationalist" movement as racist and not referring to the attack as domestic terrorism.

    All wrong in my book.

  • Before the liberals find a reason to deface, destroy or degrade this one, I thought some of you might like to see it one more time...

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  • here's what I don't get. All this outrage over Trump not saying the white nationalists are bad....

    but making a general statement.

    would they want him to talk about the black guy with a homemade hand flamethrower?

    I saw that clearly on Fox News.

    sure..."antifa not hateful"... "black lives only matter" not racist. All more

    fake posturing for political power leverage to stop the president that isn't

    the one they wanted.

    bunch of asswholes - both the white nationalist AND blm are very bad. and antifa is worse.

    I agree with what Trump said the first time.

  • @jbluhm86 said:

    Uh, idk what you've been reading, but Vanguard America is a white supremacist org; probably the last place a SJW would be welcome:

    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/alleged-charlottesville-driver-who-killed-one-rallied-alt-right-vanguard-america-group

    fields-vanguardamerica.png

    The driver is second from the left in the photo. Not exactly the outfit of a SJW.

    If Axe sees it in a meme, it has to be true

    @mld-woody said:

    If Axe sees it in a meme, it has to be true

    The guy actually has crossed rolling pins on his shield.

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    I put Fox News as the opposite of MSNBC, but they aren't close to as rabid as MSNBC. I don't even really count The Blaze they are alike Salon Mother Jones Etc.

    And even though I don't read The Blaze Fox News was never as 24/7 Obama hate as MSNBC is. But again back to the original point maybe I'm lost but what are the three wrong things that somebody is or isn't excusing?

    WSS

    Obama not mentioning Islamic Terrorism and more stringently denouncing violence against law enforcement as retaliation. Trump not condemning the "white nationalist" movement as racist and not referring to the attack as domestic terrorism.

    All wrong in my book.

    @baconhound said:

    Obama not mentioning Islamic Terrorism and more stringently denouncing violence against law enforcement as retaliation. Trump not condemning the "white nationalist" movement as racist and not referring to the attack as domestic terrorism.

    All wrong in my book.

    And yet not only did he not condemn BLM after police officers were murdered by them but he invited the motherfuckers to the White House and Hillary dragged them up on stage with her.

    WSS

  • here's what I don't get. All this outrage over Trump not saying the white nationalists are bad....

    but making a general statement.

    would they want him to talk about the black guy with a homemade hand flamethrower?

    I saw that clearly on Fox News.

    sure..."antifa not hateful"... "black lives only matter" not racist. All more

    fake posturing for political power leverage to stop the president that isn't

    the one they wanted.

    bunch of asswholes - both the white nationalist AND blm are very bad. and antifa is worse.

    I agree with what Trump said the first time.

    @calfoxwc said:

    here's what I don't get. All this outrage over Trump not saying the white nationalists are bad....

    but making a general statement.

    would they want him to talk about the black guy with a homemade hand flamethrower?

    I saw that clearly on Fox News.

    sure..."antifa not hateful"... "black lives only matter" not racist. All more

    fake posturing for political power leverage to stop the president that isn't

    the one they wanted.

    bunch of asswholes - both the white nationalist AND blm are very bad. and antifa is worse.

    I agree with what Trump said the first time.

    same - I had no problem with it - the POTUS didnt either and said so again today...

    and the media is doubling down on its contrived outrage. ( I watched NBC tonight)

  • and to hell with all the resignations in the name of PC

    dont let the door hit you on the way out

  • If you listen to what the white supremacists are saying it's only a few steps further right than what some posters on here say now....

    It should be simple. Your values should day when any group does some action, my response is X to that action. But for many on here, it seems like everything is first and foremost viewed through the lens of their Political affiliation

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    I thought Michigan grads weren't supposed to be stupid as fuck

    No that's cool. We can pretend your response made sense.

    @mld-woody said:

    No that's cool. We can pretend your response made sense.

    It made perfect sense. You're rambling on about traitors when no Confederates were ever tried as traitors and were, in fact, welcomed back into the union immediately following hostilities and ignoring that the states themselves seceded from the nation. Why don't we take away their state identities since we're so worried about nearly 200 year old treachery? Why not strip Virginia of statehood and force it to be east west Virginia? Or South Maryland? Why are we celebrating perfidy by allowing them to fly their state flag?

  • I'm offended by the word 'south'.

  • Ok, so Baltimore took down all their confederate statues last night.

  • @sober-poet said:

    Ok, so Baltimore took down all their confederate statues last night.

    Maryland was a union state so it's somewhat baffling why they ever had Confederate statues outside of somewhere like Sharpsburg

  • They're not, by the way, taking them down because it's "the right thing to do" because it's not. They're taking then down so mobs of idiots and assholes don't show up and wreck the town, again.

  • @sober-poet said:

    Ok, so Baltimore took down all their confederate statues last night.

    I would imagine the crime rate will plummet within the next few days.

    WSS

  • Well I'm not getting rid of my Confederate money (because Trump just upped the value). 😉