WEEK 1 NFL ODDS, lines and other stuff start Thursday 9/7/2017
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@boo-fagley said:
Vegas is wrong. They are right more often.
Odds are absolutely about the game. At 9.5 Vegas is giving the Browns a 28% chance to win. 0 points or even is 50% - 50%.chance to win. You said it yourself. People bet on the outcome.
People don't know what they are betting on. Vegas does. THe odds are designed to get the majority of people to bet the wrong way.
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@boo-fagley said:
Vegas lost 2.6 million on the Giants vs Pats super bowl in 2008. The outcome of this game did in fact have an effect on how much Vegas lost.
If Ben cant play opening day vs the Browns watch how fast the spread shrinks.
2.6 million? LMAO. In other words, Vegas broke even. Dude, Caesars gives more than 2.6 million in comps per day.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
I hope she is too. And thanks for the note.
You're quite welcome
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Or the Pros, where 16 Browns opponents get their cupcake with Paul Brown icing.
You got me thinking I (and the world) knew in 2016 that they were bad SU 1-15 but ATS? Well I checked....
The New England Patriots finished the regular season atop the NFL ATS standings with the best record at 13-3 ATS.
The Cleveland Browns were the worst bet all season and ended the season at 3-12-1 ATS. They pushed in their 27-24 overtime loss at Pittsburgh in Week 17 after closing as 3-point road underdogs after being bigger 'dogs all week. However, even if the Browns had covered, they still would have finished behind the San Francisco 49ers at 4-11-1 ATS; the 49ers covered their last two games to avoid the basement. The worst bet down the stretch was the Los Angeles Rams, as they failed to cover their last seven games to finish 4-10-2 ATS.
On an interesting side note, nine of the 12 playoff teams had winning ATS records. The three exceptions were the Seattle Seahawks and Detroit Lions -- who face each other in the wild-card round on Saturday night -- at 7-8-1 ATS, and the Houston Texans at 6-9-1 ATS.......
So a slam dunk betting against the cupcake BROWNS in 2016 I guess so, but what about 2017, hmmmm get even time baby!!
You got me thinking I (and the world) knew in 2016 that they were bad SU 1-15 but ATS? Well I checked....
The New England Patriots finished the regular season atop the NFL ATS standings with the best record at 13-3 ATS.
The Cleveland Browns were the worst bet all season and ended the season at 3-12-1 ATS. They pushed in their 27-24 overtime loss at Pittsburgh in Week 17 after closing as 3-point road underdogs after being bigger 'dogs all week. However, even if the Browns had covered, they still would have finished behind the San Francisco 49ers at 4-11-1 ATS; the 49ers covered their last two games to avoid the basement. The worst bet down the stretch was the Los Angeles Rams, as they failed to cover their last seven games to finish 4-10-2 ATS.
On an interesting side note, nine of the 12 playoff teams had winning ATS records. The three exceptions were the Seattle Seahawks and Detroit Lions -- who face each other in the wild-card round on Saturday night -- at 7-8-1 ATS, and the Houston Texans at 6-9-1 ATS.......
So a slam dunk betting against the cupcake BROWNS in 2016 I guess so, but what about 2017, hmmmm get even time baby!!
I call this the Goose Gosich philosophy of betting. Keep throwing the heat until someone hit it. I am inclined to keep betting against the Browns every week. i believe that if you make the same bet amount each week you will wind up tripling it in the worst case scenario. (4-12)
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Lol, Ben will play, Bell will too.
Injuries won't save the stains from a opening day @$$ whoopin
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
@boo-fagley said:
Vegas lost 2.6 million on the Giants vs Pats super bowl in 2008. The outcome of this game did in fact have an effect on how much Vegas lost.
If Ben cant play opening day vs the Browns watch how fast the spread shrinks.
2.6 million? LMAO. In other words, Vegas broke even. Dude, Caesars gives more than 2.6 million in comps per day.
2.6 million? LMAO. In other words, Vegas broke even. Dude, Caesars gives more than 2.6 million in comps per day.
Even though that was in 1979 dollars multiply that several times for 2017 dollars when you say a few $million that's just great advertising for come to Lost Wages, NV and have a good time!
And the objective of betting lines is to get as close to 50/50 as possible BUT there are a few Sucker lines like 6' and 8 to try to influence where the money goes at least initally. Ever see the hour by hour movement charts? Check out vegasinsider.com they're listed there by gambling house.
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Lol, Ben will play, Bell will too.
Injuries won't save the stains from a opening day @$$ whoopin
stains will indeed get an ass whipping, yellow piss stains that is. We will Bountygate Ben and Bell AND win. It will be the holy trinity of opening days.Lol, Ben will play, Bell will too.
Injuries won't save the stains from a opening day @$$ whoopin
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@boo-fagley said:
We were counting on Tomlins coaching.
How many more seasons do you figure the head cheerleader has left?
Yeah.....must be cause he's dropped so many games to them in the past?
Lol, Tomlin's worst record STILL has 800% more wins than the Clown's record last season.
Won a Superbowl, went to another, and has never posted a losing season.
What a crap coach.
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@boo-fagley said:
2007 lost wildcard
2008 narrowly won super bowl
2009 no playoffs
2010 lost super bowl
2011 lost wildcard
2012 no payoffs
2013 no playoffs
2014 lost wildcard
2015 lost division
2016 lost afc championship
Lets review?
3 - 1 and done post seasons
3 - no playoff seasons.
7 years since last super bowl
9 years since last super bowl win
14 post season games - 8 wins - 6 losses = 57% winning percentage.
How many Superbowl appearances do you guys have in that time?
How many playoff wins?
How many losing seasons?
Quiet now little skid mark.......
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
@boo-fagley said:
First off Tom, Vegas has been continually wrong on point spreads in the beginning of NFL seasons. Just watch, they will really screw up some spreads because the NFL is so unpredictable from the outset. As the season progresses they dial it in pretty accurate. The Browns can win this game.
Garret has played 1 pre season game. If Garret made every tackle in the Saints game, he would have done so vs players who will be working at the car wash next month. You cant have it both ways. He is a rookie. Not every rookie sets the woods on fire stepping on to the NFL field for the first time. He may struggle all season, Does not mean that Garret is not good.
AH, Vegas is wrong? Dude, they are seldom wrong. The outcome of a game in relation to the spread has nothing to do with how much money they make. Odds are not about the game, they never have been. They are about making people bet the wrong way.
AH, Vegas is wrong? Dude, they are seldom wrong. The outcome of a game in relation to the spread has nothing to do with how much money they make. Odds are not about the game, they never have been. They are about making people bet the wrong way.
Are you wrong about everything? Vegas is all about setting lines that split the betting 50-50 so they take home the vig.
Dumbass...
Some say I am an acquired taste.
.. and the rest of us know you're an asshole.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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@boo-fagley said:
6 cans of Narragansett. Man, thats some high rolling right there.
Whats that going for these days? $3.00 plus tax.
U must be from mushpit Alabama if you think Narragansett is $3. More like $16 and double that with shipping fuckface.
Belly up bitch. Don't see u laying any money down.
And I prob know more about Massachusetts than you do millennial asshole.
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For the money lines and other information see vegasinsider.com
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/money/
Hey the preseason NFL money line the BROWNS are slight favorites at home versus the NYG.
9/21 MONDAY NIGHT (see link for updates)
CLE -120 nyg
For the money lines and other information see vegasinsider.com
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/money/
Hey the preseason NFL money line the BROWNS are slight favorites at home versus the NYG.
9/21 MONDAY NIGHT (see link for updates)
CLE -120 nyg
Whoa stop the presses! The BROWNS opened as favorites but now are back in their usual comfortable spot as home dogs. (see link)
NYG -120
CLE +100
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For the money lines and other information see vegasinsider.com
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/money/
Hey the preseason NFL money line the BROWNS are slight favorites at home versus the NYG.
9/21 MONDAY NIGHT (see link for updates)
CLE -120 nyg
For the money lines and other information see vegasinsider.com
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/money/
Hey the preseason NFL money line the BROWNS are slight favorites at home versus the NYG.
9/21 MONDAY NIGHT (see link for updates)
CLE -120 nyg
Whoa stop the presses! The BROWNS opened as favorites but now are back in their usual comfortable spot as slight home dogs. (see link)
NYG -120
CLE +100
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Betting on preseason games is a crap shoot because you don't know who will actually play or how long for each team. So scores are essentially meaningless and unpredictable.
Wait for the regular season before throwing away money.
Or do what the Aggie preacher did. When discussing how they retained money from the collection for personal use one preacher said he had a 10 f. diameter circle in his back yard where he threw all the money up in the air and anything falling outside the circle was for him and inside the circle was for God's use. The 2nd preacher with the same size circle said he kept the money inside the circle and anything falling outside was for God's work. The Aggie said he didn't have a circle. "I just throw all the money in the air and God takes what he wants and I keep the rest."
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Betting on preseason games is a crap shoot because you don't know who will actually play or how long for each team. So scores are essentially meaningless and unpredictable.
Wait for the regular season before throwing away money.
Or do what the Aggie preacher did. When discussing how they retained money from the collection for personal use one preacher said he had a 10 f. diameter circle in his back yard where he threw all the money up in the air and anything falling outside the circle was for him and inside the circle was for God's use. The 2nd preacher with the same size circle said he kept the money inside the circle and anything falling outside was for God's work. The Aggie said he didn't have a circle. "I just throw all the money in the air and God takes what he wants and I keep the rest."
Betting on preseason games is a crap shoot because you don't know who will actually play or how long for each team. So scores are essentially meaningless and unpredictable.
Wait for the regular season before throwing away money.....
It used to be a little more of a "predictable" thing now they don't want injuries or concussions so many stars don't even dress.
There can be exceptions if you want to take a shot for example team A has all the positions pretty well set team B has a QB or other major starting battles going on, look for team B to maybe cover. Most preseason lines are fairly close like -3 or -4.
Or just bet on what color car comes down the street next.
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@boo-fagley said:
You pay $16 for Narragansett? HAHAHA
I grew up with Narragansett, Black Label, PBR, Schlitz, Falstaff and about a dozen more obscure beers. Since I was born and raised in Mass you dont know wtf youre babbling about.
go fuck yourself. here in NY that shit (6 pack bottles) is like sam adams. where u live in MA? springfield LOL.
u know the type and design co. i worked for on temple place in boston did the original design (me) and typography for them when they first came out? u know i lived in medford, revere, west roxbury and milton after leaving fort devens in ayer MA? had best friends in somerville, malden and lynn.
you know dick. i'm so above you. you float face down.
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@boo-fagley said:
I grew up with Narragansett, Black Label, PBR, Schlitz, Falstaff and about a dozen more obscure beers.
Seem to be confusing obscure with semi-defunct, mid-Western beers. Every one listed except Narragarnet were all over NE Ohio during my formative years... plus Stroh's, Schaefer's, Schmidt's, P.O.C., Iron City... gotta be more I'm forgetting. Some others are still thriving... Rolling Rock, Genesee, Hudepohl...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You mean "the beer that made Milfamee Waukus?' (a very old and very bad joke)
I forgot to mention Blatz... my ex-Dad-in-law's fav.
Wasn't arguing, or even mentioning, brewery locale... merely pointing out that every "obscure" brew you listed, except the R.I. one, were once commonplace in NE Ohio. Beers simply traveled less 40+ years ago... were more regional. That and we were younger and had not traveled as much as we have now...
Remember when you couldn't get your hands on a Coors? Now do you care?
I never heard of Lone Star, Shiner or Pearl until I moved to Texas...
Never had a Jax until I first visited NOLA...
Never had an Anchor Steam until my third visit to the Bay Area...
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