James Harrison to Skip White House Visit
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The President of the United States of America is generally regarded as the highest ranking official in the free world. It is in this capacity that one would feel honored and accept an invitation for a formal greeting. Politics aside, this is the leader of our country. Harrisons reasoning is bankrupt of all reasoning.
Harrison didn't take the invite personally. He said that Obama would have invited the Cards if they won. He doesn't feel that a game should dictate whether or not you can meet the president. He feels the president just does it cuz its just something he is supposed to do. Harrison doesn't want to waste his time doing something he isn't thrilled about soing. Plus he already missed one day of working out this offseason. He doesn't want to miss another.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Harrison didn't take the invite personally. He said that Obama would have invited the Cards if they won. He doesn't feel that a game should dictate whether or not you can meet the president. He feels the president just does it cuz its just something he is supposed to do. Harrison doesn't want to waste his time doing something he isn't thrilled about soing. Plus he already missed one day of working out this offseason. He doesn't want to miss another.This thread has a very icky dirty feel to it with all the steeler trolls commenting. It is a very simple, clear cut statement that your boy has made. His independance from respect for his country has drawn the ire of not only Browns fans but from the citizens of the greatest nation in the world. I hope that his displeasure with America will encourage him to find the second best country that will accept him. Great football player or not you diss The USA and in my opinion your public enemy #1.
It's about time people start showing respect for there leaders, elders, teachers and public servants despite their selfess, conceited views. I digress and i know Harrison is not the first to pull this routine but it is a embarrasment to the NFL.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Harrison didn't take the invite personally. He said that Obama would have invited the Cards if they won. He doesn't feel that a game should dictate whether or not you can meet the president. He feels the president just does it cuz its just something he is supposed to do. Harrison doesn't want to waste his time doing something he isn't thrilled about soing. Plus he already missed one day of working out this offseason. He doesn't want to miss another.This thread has a very icky dirty feel to it with all the steeler trolls commenting. It is a very simple, clear cut statement that your boy has made. His independance from respect for his country has drawn the ire of not only Browns fans but from the citizens of the greatest nation in the world. I hope that his displeasure with America will encourage him to find the second best country that will accept him. Great football player or not you diss The USA and in my opinion your public enemy #1.
It's about time people start showing respect for there leaders, elders, teachers and public servants despite their selfess, conceited views. I digress and i know Harrison is not the first to pull this routine but it is a embarrasment to the NFL.
This thread has a very icky dirty feel to it with all the steeler trolls commenting. It is a very simple, clear cut statement that your boy has made. His independance from respect for his country has drawn the ire of not only Browns fans but from the citizens of the greatest nation in the world. I hope that his displeasure with America will encourage him to find the second best country that will accept him. Great football player or not you diss The USA and in my opinion your public enemy #1.
It's about time people start showing respect for there leaders, elders, teachers and public servants despite their selfess, conceited views. I digress and i know Harrison is not the first to pull this routine but it is a embarrasment to the NFL.
This somehow means he hates America?.....
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
This thread has a very icky dirty feel to it with all the steeler trolls commenting. It is a very simple, clear cut statement that your boy has made. His independance from respect for his country has drawn the ire of not only Browns fans but from the citizens of the greatest nation in the world. I hope that his displeasure with America will encourage him to find the second best country that will accept him. Great football player or not you diss The USA and in my opinion your public enemy #1.
It's about time people start showing respect for there leaders, elders, teachers and public servants despite their selfess, conceited views. I digress and i know Harrison is not the first to pull this routine but it is a embarrasment to the NFL.
This somehow means he hates America?.....
Sivlerback DPOY said:
This somehow means he hates America?.....Well he certainly has no pride in it. Don't bother defending him, he has made his own decision.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
This somehow means he hates America?.....Well he certainly has no pride in it. Don't bother defending him, he has made his own decision.
Well he certainly has no pride in it. Don't bother defending him, he has made his own decision.
Its false cause and effect reason to say someone hates America becuase they aren't interested in meeting a politician...
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Well he certainly has no pride in it. Don't bother defending him, he has made his own decision.
Its false cause and effect reason to say someone hates America becuase they aren't interested in meeting a politician...
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Its false cause and effect reason to say someone hates America becuase they aren't interested in meeting a politician...You and your fans should be ashamed of yourselves.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Its false cause and effect reason to say someone hates America becuase they aren't interested in meeting a politician...You and your fans should be ashamed of yourselves.
You and your fans should be ashamed of yourselves.
I see you have given up on trying to accuse him of using roids and now you will try to say he hates America. Honestly.....
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Sivlerback DPOY said:
I see you have given up on trying to accuse him of using roids and now you will try to say he hates America. Honestly.....Shameful.
Roids, anti-patriotism, cheating, fans going along with it all........what the hell is going on over there?
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Whos gives a flyin feck if Urkel doesnt wanna goto the white house.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
I see you have given up on trying to accuse him of using roids and now you will try to say he hates America. Honestly.....Shameful.
Roids, anti-patriotism, cheating, fans going along with it all........what the hell is going on over there?
Shameful.
Roids, anti-patriotism, cheating, fans going along with it all........what the hell is going on over there?
I believe you read the long paragraph I wrote becuase you didn't deny it. You won't deny reading it becuase you don't want to prove me right from what I said in the paragrapgh. Which tells me you read through the paragraph. If you can remember back to when you were reading it, you should probably remember reading the three things you do as opposed to ever backing up your claim. You just did what I had listed as #1.
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'll get lambasted because I'm saying something positive about the Steelers. But I give credit where credit is due. (and I don't give it when it's not due, which ticks people here off)
I've never seen you make an actual football take. It's very possible you don't know a single thing about football and are just here because you are miserable. That is my take. Try explaining why instead of just chiding anything anybody says and then you may get a shroud of respect. There are guys that really know football on this board who share their time and contribute greatly, what you do is act like a little whiner who has nothing to say except act like those same guys that make those posts are a bunch of morons.
Let's hear what you got to say there guy. It's not really tough to sit back chide others when you have nothing to contribute.
I've never seen you make an actual football take. It's very possible you don't know a single thing about football and are just here because you are miserable. That is my take. Try explaining why instead of just chiding anything anybody says and then you may get a shroud of respect. There are guys that really know football on this board who share their time and contribute greatly, what you do is act like a little whiner who has nothing to say except act like those same guys that make those posts are a bunch of morons.
Let's hear what you got to say there guy. It's not really tough to sit back chide others when you have nothing to contribute.
What is this post about? Football? No, it was about a stupid comment that a player made.
What were my replies about? They were about this players abilities, and the success of his team.
Those are football takes. You say he's an idiot because of what he said. I said he is a great linebacker that made an great play in the superbowl.
Now, who is talking football and who isnt'.
Deal with the facts. I'm talk about what is real, you talk about what you want to be real.
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I've never seen you make an actual football take. It's very possible you don't know a single thing about football and are just here because you are miserable. That is my take. Try explaining why instead of just chiding anything anybody says and then you may get a shroud of respect. There are guys that really know football on this board who share their time and contribute greatly, what you do is act like a little whiner who has nothing to say except act like those same guys that make those posts are a bunch of morons.
Let's hear what you got to say there guy. It's not really tough to sit back chide others when you have nothing to contribute.
What is this post about? Football? No, it was about a stupid comment that a player made.
What were my replies about? They were about this players abilities, and the success of his team.
Those are football takes. You say he's an idiot because of what he said. I said he is a great linebacker that made an great play in the superbowl.
Now, who is talking football and who isnt'.
Deal with the facts. I'm talk about what is real, you talk about what you want to be real.
The Soldier said:
What is this post about? Football? No, it was about a stupid comment that a player made.What were my replies about? They were about this players abilities, and the success of his team.
Those are football takes. You say he's an idiot because of what he said. I said he is a great linebacker that made an great play in the superbowl.
Now, who is talking football and who isnt'.
Deal with the facts. I'm talk about what is real, you talk about what you want to be real.
The challenge is on Soldier Boy. Let's see if you can actually make a football related comment in any of the other threads. I'm curious as to whether you know one thing about football cuz I've never seen it.
Bring it on.
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Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I think
Kellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
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Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I think
Kellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
The Soldier said:
Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I thinkKellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
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The Soldier said:
Here is my take, It's may not be your's, but this is what I thinkKellen Winslow is good tight end, but not a good fit for the Browns. In this division, we need a tight end that is more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
We need to draft for a specific system and not for the player (as we have done in the past) When you draft based on your system, you hit more than you miss.
The 3-4 got popular because it was success due to only a few teams using it 5 to 6 years ago. The few teams that used it at that time drafted players that fit it because they were available because not many teams were using it. Also, teams couldn't practice against it well, because they didn't implement it. Now, many teams (like our Browns) use it, and it will lose it's effectiveness because more teams are drafting for it and able to prepare for it.
In our divison we need a strong running game and tough defense. Big name recievers will not improve the Browns. Longer drives that take time off the clock and wear down defense's win games in November and December in cold weather. Scoring on a long strike, or Josh returning a kick-off , is not as benificial as a 15 play 3 yard at a time, 6 minute drive. We don't need a stong armed QB. We need a smart QB.
The Browns need an idenity. An owner that lives in Cleveland.
Arizona had a winning season. Atlanta had a good season. That doesn't make them good football organizations. New England, Philly, Pitts, have good organizatitons. Doug Williams had a good season, but he is should not be considered a Hall of Fame QB. Until the Browns put together successful seasons on a regular basis, I won't think of them as a good football organization. My favorite, yes, but not a good one.
Those are my football takes. I dont' consider good press the same as good football, sorry.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.
Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
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Semenback what the hell are you doing back here? Don't you have a brother you should be screwing?
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!
Sivlerback DPOY said:
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!Is that why you go to Steeler games?
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
I am enjoying watching people's brains explode at the first sign of common sense!Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Ha! 200% markup prices; 15 year season ticket waiting list. Its hard getting into a Steeler game.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
What a hoot watching the Daily Show and John Stewart acting in a state of disbelief regarding Horseroid Harrison.
If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.
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Good takes but the only thing missing is your idea for resolution to all the issues you addressed. Example would be the 3/4 losing its effectiveness. Do you think they should go back to the 4/3? Otherwise, what's the point of your take?
I hope you didn't just blow your one take cuz you showed some potential as a possible board contributor and not just a negative and depressed anti-fan.
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.
Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
The Soldier said:
You might find this suprising, but my resolution is exactley what they seem to be doing. Let's build an idenity, stick to it, a punishing ground game and a intimidating defense. I remember last season or so they were talking about swiching to the 4-3. I think they should dedicate themselves to a philosophy, and stick to it.Mangini should come out now and say "Quinn is the starter" If they are too close to call right now, then what difference does it make. He should say Quinn is the man. Players have to know this.
No mixed signals to Edwards either. Maybe the damage is done, but he should be told, you are the main reciever on this team, plays will be built around you, running plays and passing, and we expect you to show your tallent.
Bring Joe J. back to provide some leadership around work ethic.
What do you think?
JJ is done, time to move on. We have other leaders in Patten and Furrey and we can't get any older.
Everything else I agree with except I don't think they ever really thought about switching to a 4/3, that was more media driven IMO.
I think what Mancock is doing is working toward an identity, and that is a team of tough, smart, savvy, team oriented guys who are versatile. They're building depth across the board and in the trenches and identifying and going after problem areas such as injury prone guys and butterfinger WR's.
I see nothing to complain about yet, but as Grossi says this is the best time of year for a head coach.
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Is that why you go to Steeler games?
Ha! 200% markup prices; 15 year season ticket waiting list. Its hard getting into a Steeler game.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/178530-...-james-harrison
See, there's a logical explaination, and no it doesn't include him hating America....
Some good points in this one too:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/179116-...or-not-steelers
I think the real reason Harrison didn't go was becuase he was afraid Obama would force him to become a Detroit Lion under his new spread the wealth throughout the NFL plan.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6
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