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  • jcam222J jcam222

    Rumors floating there are active discussions with Colts tonight. I'd say get ready to welcome Dorsett to Cleveland. 

    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on
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    @jcam222 said:

    Rumors floating there are active discussions with Colts tonight. I'd say get ready to welcome Dorsett to Cleveland. 

    Tony?

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  • jcam222J jcam222

    Rumors floating there are active discussions with Colts tonight. I'd say get ready to welcome Dorsett to Cleveland. 

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
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    @jcam222 said:

    Rumors floating there are active discussions with Colts tonight. I'd say get ready to welcome Dorsett to Cleveland. 

    What? No 1st rounder? 🙂

    Not sure about Phillip... Would not mind nabbing Anthony Walker.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @jcam222 said:

    Rumors floating there are active discussions with Colts tonight. I'd say get ready to welcome Dorsett to Cleveland. 

    What? No 1st rounder? 🙂

    Not sure about Phillip... Would not mind nabbing Anthony Walker.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on
    #4

    @tour2ma said:

    What? No 1st rounder? 🙂

    Not sure about Phillip... Would not mind nabbing Anthony Walker.

    I'd pay good money to have the audio of the phone call when the Browns got a 1st rounder for Trent Richardson.

    Alas, it was completely wasted on Johnny Manziel, but still...

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  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #5

    Again, if this is done.....the Browns will likely pick up another....probably veteran QB for backup.  I posted a list elsewhere.  But, it is also possible that some others could come available through cuts, no?

    hoortaH 1 Reply
  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on
    #6

    @boo-fagley said:

    BOs salary this season is $16 million and I am pretty sure that BO does not receive that money if he is not on the Browns roster day 1 of the NFL 2017 season. Salaries are not guaranteed and typically fictitious numbers. I have heard of teams converting salary into signing bonus, but I cannot say for a fact that BOs contract can be reworked making him more trade friendly. 

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    Mark OM Mr. Make-BelieveM 2 Replies
  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    @boo-fagley said:

    BOs salary this season is $16 million and I am pretty sure that BO does not receive that money if he is not on the Browns roster day 1 of the NFL 2017 season. Salaries are not guaranteed and typically fictitious numbers. I have heard of teams converting salary into signing bonus, but I cannot say for a fact that BOs contract can be reworked making him more trade friendly. 

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    We took on the contract and got the 2nd round pick to take the contract off the Texans books. 

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
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  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    @boo-fagley said:

    BOs salary this season is $16 million and I am pretty sure that BO does not receive that money if he is not on the Browns roster day 1 of the NFL 2017 season. Salaries are not guaranteed and typically fictitious numbers. I have heard of teams converting salary into signing bonus, but I cannot say for a fact that BOs contract can be reworked making him more trade friendly. 

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on
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    @ibleedbrown said:

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    Right.  Whether the Browns play him or cut him, it's $16M on the cap regardless.  Brock has no salary guarantees after this season. 

    I believe the Browns can retain up to half of his salary in a trade however.  Not that Osweiler at $8M is particularly appealing to another team... But it's a potential way out of at least half of the damage.  I could be wrong about this number of course.  But it's something similar for sure.

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  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Not sure l follow this part because why would Houston give is a 2nd to take him off their hands if there wasn't a financial benefit? Otherwise they would just cut him. All the news at the time of the trade made it sound like we were on the hook for 16 mil no matter what.

    Right.  Whether the Browns play him or cut him, it's $16M on the cap regardless.  Brock has no salary guarantees after this season. 

    I believe the Browns can retain up to half of his salary in a trade however.  Not that Osweiler at $8M is particularly appealing to another team... But it's a potential way out of at least half of the damage.  I could be wrong about this number of course.  But it's something similar for sure.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
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    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Right.  Whether the Browns play him or cut him, it's $16M on the cap regardless.  Brock has no salary guarantees after this season. 

    I believe the Browns can retain up to half of his salary in a trade however.  Not that Osweiler at $8M is particularly appealing to another team... But it's a potential way out of at least half of the damage.  I could be wrong about this number of course.  But it's something similar for sure.

    That was my understanding too. Part of his contract is that $16 million is fully guaranteed this year. Regarding a trade, if the Browns are convinced he's stinko (I am) they can eat as much of his salary as necessary to ship him off. He costs them nothing in 2018- unless he's still on the roster. 

    Not sure about a limit as to how much of his salary they can absorb. 

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Again, if this is done.....the Browns will likely pick up another....probably veteran QB for backup.  I posted a list elsewhere.  But, it is also possible that some others could come available through cuts, no?

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
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    @the-gipper said:

    Again, if this is done.....the Browns will likely pick up another....probably veteran QB for backup.  I posted a list elsewhere.  But, it is also possible that some others could come available through cuts, no?

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    Mark OM The GipperT 2 Replies
  • A Alkid3 wrote on
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    Small bag of hot Cheetos should be fair. Hahaha

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  • hoortaH hoorta wrote on
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    @boo-fagley said:

    The Browns are on the hook for BOs 16 million in 2017 which makes BO trade able.

    Read the fine print in the ESPN article Boo- here's how the Browns unload Brock. They (assuming Osweiler agrees) convert X million of the $16 million to a signing bonus, pay him up front, and the team acquiring him is on the hook for the balance. Heck, the way he's played in the preseason, I'd take a conditional 7th in 2018 as compensation. Considering some backup QBs are getting $9 million or so, there could be interest in Brock if the Browns ate $10 million of his contract, they have plenty of cap room this year to do so.  

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  • ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on
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    Sashi is GM of the year if they get something else out of him 

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-gipper said:

    Again, if this is done.....the Browns will likely pick up another....probably veteran QB for backup.  I posted a list elsewhere.  But, it is also possible that some others could come available through cuts, no?

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
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    @hoorta said:

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    I wouldn't think they bring anyone in either.   It's Kizer and then Concussler, and then Hogan and when/if all 3 go down...it's clipboard Jesus to the rescue.

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @the-gipper said:

    Again, if this is done.....the Browns will likely pick up another....probably veteran QB for backup.  I posted a list elsewhere.  But, it is also possible that some others could come available through cuts, no?

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
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    @hoorta said:

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    So, they would just go with Kessler, Kizer and Hogan?  I don't know about that there.  In fact, if B.O. gets traded...or cut,  do NOT be surprised if in fact CK were to land here (don't want to start the diatribes on that...its just, football wise, a possibility)

    Mark OM hoortaH 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    So, they would just go with Kessler, Kizer and Hogan?  I don't know about that there.  In fact, if B.O. gets traded...or cut,  do NOT be surprised if in fact CK were to land here (don't want to start the diatribes on that...its just, football wise, a possibility)

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
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    @the-gipper said:

    So, they would just go with Kessler, Kizer and Hogan?  I don't know about that there.  In fact, if B.O. gets traded...or cut,  do NOT be surprised if in fact CK were to land here (don't want to start the diatribes on that...its just, football wise, a possibility)

    I don't think CK has any chance of coming here.  If they were remotely interested, he would've been here already.

  • Mark OM Mark O wrote on
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    @hoorta said:

    Apparently CK wants starter money- and we're not paying him that to be a backup. 

    You'd think he would lower his expectations as it nears the end of August and he still doesn't have a job.   But that is assuming he actually wants to play football. 

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @hoorta said:

    Gip I'm not sure the Browns would bring in a vet QB if Brock gets traded. The list of potential replacements is unappealing, to say the least. 

    So, they would just go with Kessler, Kizer and Hogan?  I don't know about that there.  In fact, if B.O. gets traded...or cut,  do NOT be surprised if in fact CK were to land here (don't want to start the diatribes on that...its just, football wise, a possibility)

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
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    @the-gipper said:

    So, they would just go with Kessler, Kizer and Hogan?  I don't know about that there.  In fact, if B.O. gets traded...or cut,  do NOT be surprised if in fact CK were to land here (don't want to start the diatribes on that...its just, football wise, a possibility)

    Yup, I really think so... Kessler isn't a rookie, neither is Hogan. They both have 2 years in Hue's system.  Remote possibility about CK Gip. Like what can he teach them? How to avoid prepatellar bursitis from kneeling too much?  🙄

    @mark-o said:

    I don't think CK has any chance of coming here.  If they were remotely interested, he would've been here already.

    Apparently CK wants starter money- and we're not paying him that to be a backup. 

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on
    #19

    @boo-fagley said:

    Yes, but is 1 Kizer, 2 Kessler and 3 Hogan doable? Id say yes.

    Given low expectations for the Browns, I agree. If push comes to shove, pull a cheap option off the scrap heap. We may end up with a cheap diamond in the rough...we'll see.

    Mike

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  • Z Zombo wrote on
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    @boo-fagley said:

    Also, Houston is in a win now mode and the Browns traded a 2017 4th which was basically a 3rd.

    Nope, it's basically a 4th, Farley.

    Z

  • OrionO Orion wrote on
    #21

    I find it difficult to believe that anyone would want Brock.

    Here we are with basically a guy entering his junior year in college, a mediocre late third round pick, a guy named Hogan and Brock....and we've pretty much announced that Brock cannot beat out the college junior or the mediocre 3rd round pick as our starter.

    I mean, if Brock can't start for US, then who the hell else would give us a bag of barbeque chips for him?  (I wouldn't...but that's just because I cherish barbeque chips)

    -  Personally, I think there's still a chance that he starts game 1 for us.  If Kizer bombs out against the #1 defense(s) and Kessler follows suite, then the Ostrich would probably be the default starter.  

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