11 Browns protest
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It's a brilliant straw man because A I actually am brilliant, thanks for noticing, and and B it's true.
If, for instance, some players decided to make the sieg heil Nazi salute and explained it was to draw attention to the problems of the inner city I doubt you would be supporting there right to peacefully protest.
Aside from that employers have the right to tell their employees they can't do certain things that would offend the customers.
WSS
Steve ur a moron. I mean you really are one he k of a stupid guy and what you just wrote is definitive proof. Ironclad now. You equated kneeling...however pointless and ill conceived.....with doing the nazi salute which we're all quite aware of its meaning.
you can make a perfectly reasonable argument against kaepernicks kneeling, in that it really diesnt mean shit and means even less if he doesnt follow it up with any off field activism on his own time. But you're not intelligent enough it seems.
Steve ur a moron. I mean you really are one he k of a stupid guy and what you just wrote is definitive proof. Ironclad now. You equated kneeling...however pointless and ill conceived.....with doing the nazi salute which we're all quite aware of its meaning.
you can make a perfectly reasonable argument against kaepernicks kneeling, in that it really diesnt mean shit and means even less if he doesnt follow it up with any off field activism on his own time. But you're not intelligent enough it seems.
Sounds like you've been huffing those industrial solvents you were hawking before you got canned.
WSS
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Right, I stand by what I said. A public company can remove employees they think are harmful to the business (based on their beliefs/actions... Not race, sex, etc). Whether you like it or not, being anti gay marriage is the minority position and shrinking in support.
Also, if a player holds a controversial political view that is deemed disruptive, the owners have a right to not sign them.
This is much easier when you're consistent in your beliefs, instead of consistent in towing the party line.
Again Woody this person was forced to resign not over anything he said but because a donor list was obtained (illegally I believe) that showed he donated to proposition 8. He never stated his personal views on this to any employee and was not stirring any controversy but he made a donation to proposition 8 on traditional marriage that had the support of the people and passed. How far do you want to go with this? How would you feel if the situation had been he had donated money to support gay marriage and those who believed in traditional marriage ran him out?
Again Woody this person was forced to resign not over anything he said but because a donor list was obtained (illegally I believe) that showed he donated to proposition 8. He never stated his personal views on this to any employee and was not stirring any controversy but he made a donation to proposition 8 on traditional marriage that had the support of the people and passed. How far do you want to go with this? How would you feel if the situation had been he had donated money to support gay marriage and those who believed in traditional marriage ran him out?
I would say people would be within their right to protest. Like they have attempted to before (Oreo's?). But being that's not the majority view right now, it might not work.
Again, your personal religious and personal beliefs are preventing you from having a consistent view on the subject.
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These players are doing this ostensibly to protest the 'divisions' in our country when in reality all this act does is to further widen existing divisions or to create new divisions. There are SO many things a professional player can or could do with their notoriety and income stream to HELP heal the divisions in our country but very very few do. They talk about bringing 'awareness.' Why is no one focusing their 'awareness' for example to what brought Tamir Rice to the park waving around a realistic toy gun and aiming it at passing cars. The reality is that kid never had a chance. Because he was failed by his parents and anyone resembling a role model. Yet somehow his pathetic excuse for a 'mother' cashed in. I'm not giving the cops a pass either. The cop that shot him should never have been re-employed by any agency after his abject failure during his first go around. He was ill prepared for what he rightly perceived as a hostile situation. You try being a cop and rolling up on someone waving a gun around. Talk about a thankless task. I wouldn't want that job. Meanwhile you have all these hate groups fomenting dissension. The KKK, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. I can't keep up but make no mistake....they are ALL hate groups trying to demonize some 'other' group of people without EVER trying to offer anything resembling a solution. So I'm to believe these players were praying for peace? We've all seen what's in Isaiah Crowells heart and mind already. His solution is to slit the throat of cops. How nice. Go check Jabrill Peppers rap sheet. I'm sure he's a pacifist. Insert eyeroll here. Some of these players 'may' have meant well by this gesture but I guarantee for the majority of them it was just a middle finger to their mythical "The Man." What these players and EVERYONE should be doing is getting THEIR house right. Raise your kids with respect and love for themselves and their fellow man. If you ignore them and let them raise themselves you get what is happening all too often throughout our failing society. Drug overdoses and violent crime with no concern for the consequences. Good luck to these players making the paycheck they do now when the country they seem to detest so much has splintered apart. Go ahead. Whatever stupid 'side' you've chosen, be it Trump, Hillary, Democrats, Republicans, Black Lives Matter, Nazis, KKK. YOU are at fault. Society just like a football team is built from the ground up. Get your family right. Get YOU right and do something proactive rather than trying to piss off someone else.
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These players are doing this ostensibly to protest the 'divisions' in our country when in reality all this act does is to further widen existing divisions or to create new divisions. There are SO many things a professional player can or could do with their notoriety and income stream to HELP heal the divisions in our country but very very few do. They talk about bringing 'awareness.' Why is no one focusing their 'awareness' for example to what brought Tamir Rice to the park waving around a realistic toy gun and aiming it at passing cars. The reality is that kid never had a chance. Because he was failed by his parents and anyone resembling a role model. Yet somehow his pathetic excuse for a 'mother' cashed in. I'm not giving the cops a pass either. The cop that shot him should never have been re-employed by any agency after his abject failure during his first go around. He was ill prepared for what he rightly perceived as a hostile situation. You try being a cop and rolling up on someone waving a gun around. Talk about a thankless task. I wouldn't want that job. Meanwhile you have all these hate groups fomenting dissension. The KKK, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. I can't keep up but make no mistake....they are ALL hate groups trying to demonize some 'other' group of people without EVER trying to offer anything resembling a solution. So I'm to believe these players were praying for peace? We've all seen what's in Isaiah Crowells heart and mind already. His solution is to slit the throat of cops. How nice. Go check Jabrill Peppers rap sheet. I'm sure he's a pacifist. Insert eyeroll here. Some of these players 'may' have meant well by this gesture but I guarantee for the majority of them it was just a middle finger to their mythical "The Man." What these players and EVERYONE should be doing is getting THEIR house right. Raise your kids with respect and love for themselves and their fellow man. If you ignore them and let them raise themselves you get what is happening all too often throughout our failing society. Drug overdoses and violent crime with no concern for the consequences. Good luck to these players making the paycheck they do now when the country they seem to detest so much has splintered apart. Go ahead. Whatever stupid 'side' you've chosen, be it Trump, Hillary, Democrats, Republicans, Black Lives Matter, Nazis, KKK. YOU are at fault. Society just like a football team is built from the ground up. Get your family right. Get YOU right and do something proactive rather than trying to piss off someone else.
These players are doing this ostensibly to protest the 'divisions' in our country when in reality all this act does is to further widen existing divisions or to create new divisions. There are SO many things a professional player can or could do with their notoriety and income stream to HELP heal the divisions in our country but very very few do. They talk about bringing 'awareness.' Why is no one focusing their 'awareness' for example to what brought Tamir Rice to the park waving around a realistic toy gun and aiming it at passing cars. The reality is that kid never had a chance. Because he was failed by his parents and anyone resembling a role model. Yet somehow his pathetic excuse for a 'mother' cashed in. I'm not giving the cops a pass either. The cop that shot him should never have been re-employed by any agency after his abject failure during his first go around. He was ill prepared for what he rightly perceived as a hostile situation. You try being a cop and rolling up on someone waving a gun around. Talk about a thankless task. I wouldn't want that job. Meanwhile you have all these hate groups fomenting dissension. The KKK, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. I can't keep up but make no mistake....they are ALL hate groups trying to demonize some 'other' group of people without EVER trying to offer anything resembling a solution. So I'm to believe these players were praying for peace? We've all seen what's in Isaiah Crowells heart and mind already. His solution is to slit the throat of cops. How nice. Go check Jabrill Peppers rap sheet. I'm sure he's a pacifist. Insert eyeroll here. Some of these players 'may' have meant well by this gesture but I guarantee for the majority of them it was just a middle finger to their mythical "The Man." What these players and EVERYONE should be doing is getting THEIR house right. Raise your kids with respect and love for themselves and their fellow man. If you ignore them and let them raise themselves you get what is happening all too often throughout our failing society. Drug overdoses and violent crime with no concern for the consequences. Good luck to these players making the paycheck they do now when the country they seem to detest so much has splintered apart. Go ahead. Whatever stupid 'side' you've chosen, be it Trump, Hillary, Democrats, Republicans, Black Lives Matter, Nazis, KKK. YOU are at fault. Society just like a football team is built from the ground up. Get your family right. Get YOU right and do something proactive rather than trying to piss off someone else.
Well said Coop.
Glad to see you around, it's been awhile..
WSS
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Ofc its nothing more than a fuck you to "the man", because none of them do shit on their own time. But that being said, i still dont give a shit what some athlete does during the national anthem. He can sit, stand....do fucking yoga....his business. So long as someone doesnt impede someone else's ability to observe the anthem how he/she feels fit.....than fuck it why does anyone care.
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Ofc its nothing more than a fuck you to "the man", because none of them do shit on their own time. But that being said, i still dont give a shit what some athlete does during the national anthem. He can sit, stand....do fucking yoga....his business. So long as someone doesnt impede someone else's ability to observe the anthem how he/she feels fit.....than fuck it why does anyone care.
Ofc its nothing more than a fuck you to "the man", because none of them do shit on their own time. But that being said, i still dont give a shit what some athlete does during the national anthem. He can sit, stand....do fucking yoga....his business. So long as someone doesnt impede someone else's ability to observe the anthem how he/she feels fit.....than fuck it why does anyone care.
Simple reason is that I, you, we and most of the fans are the man.
Similar to any other member of the entertainment industry, if you start off by flipping the bird to your fans they will naturally be less likely to root for you.
WSS
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Please steve....are u that profoundly clueless they think the avg white dude who hasnt made in his lifetime what they spent at the titty bars last weekend, "the man"? Be serious here for once
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that guy cant or wont pay ticket prices .... talk about clueless?
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Please steve....are u that profoundly clueless they think the avg white dude who hasnt made in his lifetime what they spent at the titty bars last weekend, "the man"? Be serious here for once
Please steve....are u that profoundly clueless they think the avg white dude who hasnt made in his lifetime what they spent at the titty bars last weekend, "the man"? Be serious here for once
Serious? Now you just wasting my time. I'm sure you can tell the difference between being a sports team fan and a strip club Patron. As a matter of fact that's one of the reasons I don't like strip clubs and don't go to them. Same as a hooker. Wouldn't you find it a little bit humiliating to be throwing your money away to someone who's only being nice to you because she's getting paid? With sports I'd wager that all of us are Browns fans for no other reason than territorial loyalty. Pride in our city etc etc and we want our athletes to be happy to be here and proud to represent us. So if these guys are openly hostile it's just not as much fun. Maybe it is for you I doubt it and I don't expect the truth from you though. Let's say you are standing in a line as some musical artist was giving out autographs you tell him you have always loved some particular song of his especially because it was your parents favorite song when they were dating. He looks at you and says that song is a piece of shit and your parents are idiots. Do you still want the autograph?
WSS
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Wait, why are they openly hostile?
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Steve just doesnt get it....these athletes are not saying fuck u to us. I dont kniw what other english words are necessary here or if i need to google translate sone klingon, but this goofball just isnt getting it
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Players stood arm in arm this time.
So are we good now?
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yep.
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People are stilling crying about this?
Fucking snowflake, panzies... -
People are stilling crying about this?
Fucking snowflake, panzies...People are stilling crying about this?
Fucking snowflake, panzies...At least you are.
WSS
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