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  • Mr. Make-Believe Mr. Make-BelieveM Very Popular Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by
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    I wish Haden was good again rather than being potentially dealt.  Love the guy and the ideal scenario would be to have the Haden of a few years ago still on the team.

    I don't think you COULD trade him now if you wanted.

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      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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      Debate seems to be whether Joe is the 3rd or 4th best CB on our roster. But this is the last year that he is uber-expensive to part with... so I doubt he goes anywhere now.

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        I think we might be trying to trade him for a receiver.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore.

          But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

          Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

          Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

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            Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore.

            But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

            Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

            Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

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            runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore.

            But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

            Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

            Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

            I agree we don't have a lot of depth there, I would rather hold on to Haden this year and then take the cap hit next year if we decide to release him.

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              Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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              Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason.

              Zombo

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                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                At this point, Joe is only out there because of his name. I'm sure one of the young, cheaper dudes will do just as well. 

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                • The GipperT The Gipper

                  Uhmm....that is all fine well and good...if you think Joe isn't much up to snuff anymore.

                  But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

                  Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

                  Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

                  Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

                  Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

                  Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC.

                  And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp.

                  "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                    I can appreciate that Haden bleeds orange and brown and has been an admirable cheerleader for the team.. But clearly.. His best days are behind him.. Good luck, Joe!

                    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                    • Mark O Mark OM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                      Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                      http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20495844/cleveland-browns-open-trade-offers-veteran-cb-joe-haden

                      This report out there today as well.  

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                        Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason.

                        Zombo

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason.

                        Zombo

                        So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup?   Waiver wire disjecta membra?

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          But...here is the problem:  who the fuck do the Browns have to replace him that is better?   McCourty? Boddy-Calhoun?  Channing Stribling?

                          Browns did NOT invest any draft picks in CB.  They picked up a couple of FAs and a  UDFA in    Stribling.

                          Again, tell me who is going to be the starter if he goes, and who will play nickel, etc. 

                          Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC.

                          And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @tour2ma said:

                          Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC.

                          And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp.

                          Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently.  (maybe some time in the far future?).

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            So.....LB Cam Johnson and S Ed Reynolds also shown the door apparently:  From ESPN:

                            Also Tuesday, the Browns terminated the contract of defensive lineman Cam Johnson and waived defensive back Ed Reynolds II with an injury designation. Both players suffered knee injuries in camp.

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                              @tour2ma said:

                              Pretty much a consensus that Taylor and McCourty have outplayed Haden, and opinions are split on who is better between Joe and BBC.

                              And we drafted Wilson out of UH who cracked his knee cap in camp.

                              Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently.  (maybe some time in the far future?).

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently.  (maybe some time in the far future?).

                              Simply reflects that he's hurt... same as Bito and Danny currently being at the ass end of the LG and NT lines.

                              I was very happy to see Wilson's name on one of our cards on Draft-day. I thought he has a shot to be a good one... still do. Hope to see him later this year.

                              "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Wilson is listed a like 5th string...and not a factor currently.  (maybe some time in the far future?).

                                Simply reflects that he's hurt... same as Bito and Danny currently being at the ass end of the LG and NT lines.

                                I was very happy to see Wilson's name on one of our cards on Draft-day. I thought he has a shot to be a good one... still do. Hope to see him later this year.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @tour2ma said:

                                Simply reflects that he's hurt... same as Bito and Danny currently being at the ass end of the LG and NT lines.

                                I was very happy to see Wilson's name on one of our cards on Draft-day. I thought he has a shot to be a good one... still do. Hope to see him later this year.

                                Difference is that Bito and Shelton have somewhat proven themselves in the NFL.  No such thing with Wilson.   That said, what is his prognosis? Injury list the entire season?  Or does he have a chance to get in there perhaps?

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                                  Zombo said:

                                  Boddy-Calhoun is better from what I have seen this preseason.

                                  Zombo

                                  So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup?   Waiver wire disjecta membra?

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                                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup?   Waiver wire disjecta membra?

                                  We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup?   Waiver wire disjecta membra?

                                    We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

                                    Z

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    Zombo said:

                                    We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

                                    Z

                                    Not down with Stribling?   I would think that Woody would be in here drooling over the fact that this rumor may give another FMU boy a spot on this roster.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      So, you put him in as starter.....then what about nickel and backup?   Waiver wire disjecta membra?

                                      We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

                                      Z

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                                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                      Zombo said:

                                      We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

                                      Z

                                      = pick up a reject Z. Our secondary is bad enough as it is. If the Browns truly think Joe is shot- no GM in his right mind is going to be interested. Been pointed out- to move him, we're going to have to eat a large part of his contract. 

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                                        Zombo said:

                                        We've got McCourty too. Pick up a 4th corner in the trade or a separate trade.

                                        Z

                                        = pick up a reject Z. Our secondary is bad enough as it is. If the Browns truly think Joe is shot- no GM in his right mind is going to be interested. Been pointed out- to move him, we're going to have to eat a large part of his contract. 

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                                        Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        = pick up a reject Z. Our secondary is bad enough as it is. If the Browns truly think Joe is shot- no GM in his right mind is going to be interested. Been pointed out- to move him, we're going to have to eat a large part of his contract. 

                                        We have the cap room or the ability to eat part of his contract (been reported Browns are willing to do the same thing with Asswhiler in order to move him) and if the return package is good enough, Id think the Browns would be definitely willing to pay a part of the contract.

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                                          Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                                          They should have traded him last year but yes this is true. They are shopping Haden, Osweiler and Erving as reported by CBS Sports and the NFL NETWORK 

                                          CBS SPORTS QUOTE; "The Browns are comfortable moving forward with Jamar Taylor, Jason McCourty and Briean Boddy-Calhoun"

                                          DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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