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  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess Joe's "love for Cleveland"  would have to be questioned now.  I suspect that a number of suitors may have been out there on him....but if he signs with those asswipes....well, he will have just given a big "Fuck You" to the Browns fans that supported him.  Anywhere but there would have been OK.

    I for one won't hold it against him if he signs with the Steelers. They may be the only contender showing interest. There aren't many that have significant need at CB.

    Lesser factor, but there is also the "intel factor"... Williams' D is going to be new to the AFCN.

    @tour2ma said:

    I for one won't hold it against him if he signs with the Steelers. They may be the only contender showing interest. There aren't many that have significant need at CB.

    Lesser factor, but there is also the "intel factor"... Williams' D is going to be new to the AFCN.

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

  • Fuck thats all we need, a vet with knowledge of the new system going straight to shittspuke. God ficking dammit it never ends with this team

  • @tour2ma said:

    I for one won't hold it against him if he signs with the Steelers. They may be the only contender showing interest. There aren't many that have significant need at CB.

    Lesser factor, but there is also the "intel factor"... Williams' D is going to be new to the AFCN.

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    They've always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

  • @darren15 said:

    Steelers are signing him as per Schefter .......that's just great 🙁

    Hasn't cleared waivers yet.

    @topdawg31 said:

    Hasn't cleared waivers yet.

    He doesn't go to waivers, he's a vested veteran. Immediately goes into the FA pool. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    They've always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

    @clevfan4life said:

    They've always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

    By the time we are going to be competing for north supremacy, Haden will be 31 and Big Ben will be out the door. Lets be honest, Joe hasnt done much with his big contract the last few years. Let our young guys compete and develope.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    They've always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

    @clevfan4life said:

    They've (the Steelers) always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

    Williams has been a DC for a long time. I would strongly suspect teams around the NFL have a mighty good idea what his playcalling tendencies are. Anything Joe might be able to convey to Tomlin & company would be of minimal benefit.  

  • @clevfan4life said:

    They've (the Steelers) always looked at the browns as two easy outs. The easier the better. They play us twice so thats, in their mind, two games they typically dont have to play as hard. They get a guy who knows the new system and they could perhaps shave reps off their starters. See how that works? 

    Williams has been a DC for a long time. I would strongly suspect teams around the NFL have a mighty good idea what his playcalling tendencies are. Anything Joe might be able to convey to Tomlin & company would be of minimal benefit.  

    @hoorta said:

    Williams has been a DC for a long time. I would strongly suspect teams around the NFL have a mighty good idea what his playcalling tendencies are. Anything Joe might be able to convey to Tomlin & company would be of minimal benefit.  

    Maybe maybe not. U know they're asking him about myles tendencies. You know does he go aft or starboard at the bottom of the hour..........who saw what i just did right there? 

  • @darren15 said:

    Steelers are signing him as per Schefter .......that's just great 🙁

    & How did Gilbert work out for them? Steelers corners worse than ours?

    @hoorta said:

    & How did Gilbert work out for them? Steelers corners worse than ours?

    Gilbert never proved for either team he could play. Im intrigued by haden, he wont be playing man. However with that said im not expecting anything. Artie burns is a damn good corner but the number two job is up for grabs, maybe thats haden until rookies come along. Antonio brown is advocating his signing and brown has torched haden in the past, maybe worse than any other receiver in the lg. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    I for one won't hold it against him if he signs with the Steelers. They may be the only contender showing interest. There aren't many that have significant need at CB.

    Lesser factor, but there is also the "intel factor"... Williams' D is going to be new to the AFCN.

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    If they sign haden it wont be for info. Hes 28, will play zone. They are kicking the tires for a reason, the above isnt it. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    If they sign haden it wont be for info. Hes 28, will play zone. They are kicking the tires for a reason, the above isnt it. 

    @vagitron said:

    If they sign haden it wont be for info. Hes 28, will play zone. They are kicking the tires for a reason, the above isnt it. 

    Agreed. If they only wanted intel then they would just sign one of the Browns' cuts that are coming. 

  • Lol, looking like it won't be the last time you see Haden.

    In fact, looking very much like you might be seeing him in Black and Gold about twice a year.

    Hey, at least he'll know what it feels like to win on a day the Steelers and Clowns play.

  • Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

  • Lol, looking like it won't be the last time you see Haden.

    In fact, looking very much like you might be seeing him in Black and Gold about twice a year.

    Hey, at least he'll know what it feels like to win on a day the Steelers and Clowns play.

    @gafreleets said:

    Lol, looking like it won't be the last time you see Haden.

    In fact, looking very much like you might be seeing him in Black and Gold about twice a year.

    Hey, at least he'll know what it feels like to win on a day the Steelers and Clowns play.

    It also looks like you'll know what its like to have your CB1 get burned time and again on a day when the Browns and Shittsburgh play.

  • Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

    @stillmotion said:

    Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

    Loyalty isn't a column in the balance sheet or the box score.

  • @stillmotion said:

    Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

    Loyalty isn't a column in the balance sheet or the box score.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Loyalty isn't a column in the balance sheet or the box score.

    Does Jimmy care about saving money, or the box score?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I guess that means we have them worried...if they would pick up a player just for the "intel factor". 

    Fair to say?

    If they sign haden it wont be for info. Hes 28, will play zone. They are kicking the tires for a reason, the above isnt it. 

    @vagitron said:

    If they sign haden it wont be for info. Hes 28, will play zone. They are kicking the tires for a reason, the above isnt it. 

    Play zone as what?  Like the 3rd or 4th corner. 

    Though, I guess, to be honest with you, this would say a lot about the state of the Steelers backfield....if they are willing to take on a guy who has not played much the last couple of years because of injury, and who appears to clearly have diminished skills....as the whole observation here has been that he has been getting burned consistently.  Even in a zone you still have to cover.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Loyalty isn't a column in the balance sheet or the box score.

    Does Jimmy care about saving money, or the box score?

    @stillmotion said:

    Does Jimmy care about saving money, or the box score?

    Both. And cutting Haden helped both of those causes. Or at least it had no effect on the latter. 

  • Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

    @stillmotion said:

    Hope he doesn't join pittsburgh.

    Apparently Jimmy and Sashi don't care about loyalty. I would've gave him another chance.

    T.J. Ward is rumored to be shopped. Maybe we can get him back?

    🙂 does Ward have diminished skills too? Maybe some of our Bronco lurkers can fill us in....   

    Regarding Haden- it dawned on me what happened. assuming Joe and his booger agent Rosenhaus met with Sashi last week, it probably went like this....  The Browns told Joe we like you, but not at your current salary, so lets' renegotiate to what we feel you're worth. Rosenhaus of course said no- & you just saw the result. Been real Joe, adios. 

  • @jafbf said:

    Grossi's saying to expect 5 - 6 new Players on this Roster that are not with the Team now . . . probably need a new thread for that.

    How about...

    /topic/47677

    @tour2ma said:

    How about...

    /topic/47677

    Missed it . . . just had too much on my plate lately, thanks.

  • Confirmed he's signed for Pittsburgh. $27m three year deal with $7m this year.