Browns trade for WR Sammie Coates
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Worst case scenario a look in their O playbook to compete with Haden giving them our D plays lol.
Honestly early on I posted that Coates was a likely Steelers cut and a good get for the Browns. He can be really good and really bad. Saunders just needs to get him focused.
OVERVIEW
Finished his career with a yards-per-reception average of 20.9. In 2014, named second-team All-SEC and was a Senior Bowl invitee. Dominated in loss to Alabama with 5 receptions for 206 yards and 2 touchdowns. In 2013, started 12-of-14 games he played in and averaged 54.1 yards per touchdown reception. Played in 11 games in 2012. Redshirted in 2011 after suffering foot injury that required surgery before season started. Led Leroy High School (Ala.) to Class 2A State Championship, earning MVP honors with 5 catches for 60 yards and 2 touchdowns.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Looks the part. Long legs with well-proportioned frame. Outstanding combination of size and speed. Good acceleration off the snap for a receiver with his length. Can take top off defense and open up the underneath. Will beat bold cornerbacks over the top if they wait to turn and run. Forces cornerbacks onto their heels and gets easy, open looks on dig routes. Makes easy in-cut with maximum separation. Ability to win big plays vertically. Saved best performances for big games. Put 206 yards and two touchdowns on Alabama in 2014.WEAKNESSES
Won't be on quarterback's Christmas card list. Wasn't always on same page with Auburn QB Nick Marshall. Unreliable target. Inexplicable focus drops in all areas of the field. Doesn't play with extended catch radius. Had a drop rate of 19.1 percent. Vertical receiver without vertical feel. Inconsistent play speed. Will gear down too easily on deep routes, turning catchable touchdowns into "overthrows." Suspect ball tracking. Must improve at using body to ward off defenders. Inconsistent with contested catches. Stiff hips and limited route runner. Slow to gather and turn it upfield on catch-and-runs.DRAFT PROJECTION
Round 3NFL COMPARISON
Martavis BryantBOTTOM LINE
Big, fast and raw. Vertical wide receiver with the ability to hit big plays and have dominant games. Coates must be coached to trust his quarterback and run through his deep routes in order to reach his potential. He has early round traits and late-round receiving skills right now, but the upside will be hard to pass on and could pay off in a big way. He will be tethered to the JUGS machine in rookie camp. -
Can only hope the Browns find something there that the Stools couldnt....
At the same time, you'd think they could find a comparable talent on the waiver wire in just a few hours....for free....
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Can only hope the Browns find something there that the Stools couldnt....
At the same time, you'd think they could find a comparable talent on the waiver wire in just a few hours....for free....
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Worst case scenario a look in their O playbook to compete with Haden giving them our D plays lol.
Honestly early on I posted that Coates was a likely Steelers cut and a good get for the Browns. He can be really good and really bad. Saunders just needs to get him focused.
OVERVIEW
Finished his career with a yards-per-reception average of 20.9. In 2014, named second-team All-SEC and was a Senior Bowl invitee. Dominated in loss to Alabama with 5 receptions for 206 yards and 2 touchdowns. In 2013, started 12-of-14 games he played in and averaged 54.1 yards per touchdown reception. Played in 11 games in 2012. Redshirted in 2011 after suffering foot injury that required surgery before season started. Led Leroy High School (Ala.) to Class 2A State Championship, earning MVP honors with 5 catches for 60 yards and 2 touchdowns.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Looks the part. Long legs with well-proportioned frame. Outstanding combination of size and speed. Good acceleration off the snap for a receiver with his length. Can take top off defense and open up the underneath. Will beat bold cornerbacks over the top if they wait to turn and run. Forces cornerbacks onto their heels and gets easy, open looks on dig routes. Makes easy in-cut with maximum separation. Ability to win big plays vertically. Saved best performances for big games. Put 206 yards and two touchdowns on Alabama in 2014.WEAKNESSES
Won't be on quarterback's Christmas card list. Wasn't always on same page with Auburn QB Nick Marshall. Unreliable target. Inexplicable focus drops in all areas of the field. Doesn't play with extended catch radius. Had a drop rate of 19.1 percent. Vertical receiver without vertical feel. Inconsistent play speed. Will gear down too easily on deep routes, turning catchable touchdowns into "overthrows." Suspect ball tracking. Must improve at using body to ward off defenders. Inconsistent with contested catches. Stiff hips and limited route runner. Slow to gather and turn it upfield on catch-and-runs.DRAFT PROJECTION
Round 3NFL COMPARISON
Martavis BryantBOTTOM LINE
Big, fast and raw. Vertical wide receiver with the ability to hit big plays and have dominant games. Coates must be coached to trust his quarterback and run through his deep routes in order to reach his potential. He has early round traits and late-round receiving skills right now, but the upside will be hard to pass on and could pay off in a big way. He will be tethered to the JUGS machine in rookie camp.Worst case scenario a look in their O playbook to compete with Haden giving them our D plays lol.
Ya, a little tit for tat.
We needed WR depth.
And it's the same pick we got for Justin Gilbert. I'll take that trade.
Zombo
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Zombo said:
Ya, a little tit for tat.
We needed WR depth.
And it's the same pick we got for Justin Gilbert. I'll take that trade.
Zombo
A used condom would be highly offended if it was traded for Gilbert, so getting a player out of him is like striking gold.
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So quick question on this, because I am seeing two different things. Some people are saying that we gave them our 2019 7th rounder and others are saying we got theirs. Wondering who is right. Regardless I don't see the harm, it basically comes down to a straight up player for player trade at the end of the day. He can't be any worse than what we have after Coleman.
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So quick question on this, because I am seeing two different things. Some people are saying that we gave them our 2019 7th rounder and others are saying we got theirs. Wondering who is right. Regardless I don't see the harm, it basically comes down to a straight up player for player trade at the end of the day. He can't be any worse than what we have after Coleman.
So quick question on this, because I am seeing two different things. Some people are saying that we gave them our 2019 7th rounder and others are saying we got theirs. Wondering who is right. Regardless I don't see the harm, it basically comes down to a straight up player for player trade at the end of the day. He can't be any worse than what we have after Coleman.
We get Coates AND a 2017 7th.
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You mean 2018 and 2019
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we get Coats & Pitts 2019 7th rounder...Pitt gets 2018 6th rounder...Just like Ragland deal..If a rook is in rook contract you get nothing till rook' orginial contract ends(is what it looks like)..More hidden agent crap imo.....Welcome Aboard Sammie Coats!! Auburn battle with Louis for #3WR #WarEagle
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Now that we have completed this quest to acquire the NFL-caliber 2015 Auburn offensive starters [Shon Coleman, Ricardo Louis], do we get a draft pick?
This move unlocks some sort of Madden dynasty bonus, right?
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I really like coates but with justin hunter playing well he was the odd man out. Hes strong as hell for a receiver with good speed. His hands arent the best and hes broken some fingers pretty badly. His one hand all things considered is pretty mangled for a wr. The browns made a smart move imo and im assuming this saved us from cutting him. I honestly expected him yo make the team but with juju getting drafted that should have been my first sign.
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@boo-fagley said:
Small sample size, but 43% catch rate aint gonna cut it.
Tell that to Corey Coleman.....
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@boo-fagley said:
Small sample size, but 43% catch rate aint gonna cut it. He needs to get up past 60% at least. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr2016
IMO, this is a F with Pittsburgh move.
He literally played with broken fingers. His hands arent great but hes better than 43%
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Kid was a a straight beast in college.
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Zombo said:
Ya, a little tit for tat. We needed WR depth. And it's the same pick we got for Justin Gilbert. I'll take that trade.
Basically Gilbert for Coates and a 7th... if you want to look backwards.
And it you don't want to look backwards, then we swapped a 2019 6th for a 2018 7th, which in the NFL is an equal swap, and they gave us Coates.
I'm good either way...
Steelers get Haden, we get Coates.
This is not a third way to look at it.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Im kind of upset hes a brown honestly. I wish him well either way.
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