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  • @londonbrown said:

    Someone claiming to have spoke with the man himself 

    http://scout.com/nfl/browns/Topic/Spoke-with-Josh-Gordon-today-reinstatement--106775818

    Interesting... as were some of the OP's follow up posts.

    Chud wanted EJ Emanual... explains a good chink of his departure.

    @wargograw said:

    Huh?

    There was some stress inducing crisis... IIRC a paternity claim.

    I've gone to the corner store for cigs under much less stressful circumstances...

  • He needs to be better than the last time we saw him..

    Alligator arms + no effort either cutting or blocking.. can be achieved much cheaper.

    @unsympathetic said:

    He needs to be better than the last time we saw him..

    Alligator arms + no effort either cutting or blocking.. can be achieved much cheaper.

    It wasn't his fault, he was just drunk. 

  • @wargograw said:

    Plus the whole right when he was about to get reinstated, he ditched us thing....

    There was a trigger for that detour, if you'll recall.

    @tour2ma said:

    There was a trigger for that detour, if you'll recall.

    Realizing that he'd have to play with the Browns again? 😆

  • OK- Lord knows we could use a talent like Gordon, even at 50% he's better than anything we're featuring with that scrap heap after Coleman. But inquiring minds want to know- if he's been "compliant" why the hell did Goodell effectively tack on a two game suspension, on top of what he's already been ass whipped for in the past? 

  • OK- Lord knows we could use a talent like Gordon, even at 50% he's better than anything we're featuring with that scrap heap after Coleman. But inquiring minds want to know- if he's been "compliant" why the hell did Goodell effectively tack on a two game suspension, on top of what he's already been ass whipped for in the past? 

    @hoorta said:

    OK- Lord knows we could use a talent like Gordon, even at 50% he's better than anything we're featuring with that scrap heap after Coleman. But inquiring minds want to know- if he's been "compliant" why the hell did Goodell effectively tack on a two game suspension, on top of what he's already been ass whipped for in the past? 

    It's almost like a narrative by Gordon apologists is being made that he's the victim of big, bad Roger Goodell.

  • @hoorta said:

    OK- Lord knows we could use a talent like Gordon, even at 50% he's better than anything we're featuring with that scrap heap after Coleman. But inquiring minds want to know- if he's been "compliant" why the hell did Goodell effectively tack on a two game suspension, on top of what he's already been ass whipped for in the past? 

    It's almost like a narrative by Gordon apologists is being made that he's the victim of big, bad Roger Goodell.

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a narrative by Gordon apologists is being made that he's the victim of big, bad Roger Goodell.

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    It's almost like a narrative by Gordon apologists is being made that he's the victim of big, bad Roger Goodell.

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

    It is obvious to me that this is a Gordon problem and not a Goodell problem. And it started and has been ongoing since even before Baylor was in the picture. He's really just Ricky 2.0, another great career ruined by himself.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story....... real or imagined.

    So.....do you know there is more than the common knowledge stuff.....or just imagining it?

    Here's what we know.....1) codiene....2) 0.15 nl.......3) drinky poo....4)missed test......is there more?

    Personally.....dont care about Goodell....or Gordon.....who is right.....who is evil....who's at fault....etc....

    If he's available....I want Josh catching balls for the Browns......and if he's not available, then I dont give 2 shits about what he's doing, who he hangs out with or why......

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story....... real or imagined.

    So.....do you know there is more than the common knowledge stuff.....or just imagining it?

    Here's what we know.....1) codiene....2) 0.15 nl.......3) drinky poo....4)missed test......is there more?

    Personally.....dont care about Goodell....or Gordon.....who is right.....who is evil....who's at fault....etc....

    If he's available....I want Josh catching balls for the Browns......and if he's not available, then I dont give 2 shits about what he's doing, who he hangs out with or why......

    @mudfly said:

    So.....do you know there is more than the common knowledge stuff.....or just imagining it?

    Here's what we know.....1) codiene....2) 0.15 nl.......3) drinky poo....4)missed test......is there more?

    Personally.....dont care about Goodell....or Gordon.....who is right.....who is evil....who's at fault....etc....

    If he's available....I want Josh catching balls for the Browns......and if he's not available, then I dont give 2 shits about what he's doing, who he hangs out with or why......

    No, I don't. That's the point.

    The NFL cannot come out and give us a blow-by-blow account of every indiscretion Josh Gordon has had since entering the NFL. All we can go by is what we've heard has happened, and to be honest, I wouldn't put it past Gordon's people to leak "news" that makes it seem like their guy is getting a raw deal. Why not? They know the NFL can't come out and release the facts of the case.

    Just remember guys, this is the same Josh Gordon who had to enter the NFL via the supplemental draft because he'd burned through multiple college football bridges. This seems to be who he is. Hopefully I and others are wrong, he's grown up, now will take his football career seriously and get back to being the dominating WR we saw four years ago. His history, though, indicates that this will not happen.

  • @mudfly said:

    So.....do you know there is more than the common knowledge stuff.....or just imagining it?

    Here's what we know.....1) codiene....2) 0.15 nl.......3) drinky poo....4)missed test......is there more?

    Personally.....dont care about Goodell....or Gordon.....who is right.....who is evil....who's at fault....etc....

    If he's available....I want Josh catching balls for the Browns......and if he's not available, then I dont give 2 shits about what he's doing, who he hangs out with or why......

    No, I don't. That's the point.

    The NFL cannot come out and give us a blow-by-blow account of every indiscretion Josh Gordon has had since entering the NFL. All we can go by is what we've heard has happened, and to be honest, I wouldn't put it past Gordon's people to leak "news" that makes it seem like their guy is getting a raw deal. Why not? They know the NFL can't come out and release the facts of the case.

    Just remember guys, this is the same Josh Gordon who had to enter the NFL via the supplemental draft because he'd burned through multiple college football bridges. This seems to be who he is. Hopefully I and others are wrong, he's grown up, now will take his football career seriously and get back to being the dominating WR we saw four years ago. His history, though, indicates that this will not happen.

    @dutch-oven said:

    No, I don't. That's the point.

    Just remember guys, this is the same Josh Gordon who had to enter the NFL via the supplemental draft because he'd burned through multiple college football bridges. This seems to be who he is. Hopefully I and others are wrong, he's grown up, now will take his football career seriously and get back to being the dominating WR we saw four years ago. His history, though, indicates that this will not happen.

    And my point is that this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has been said 52,789 times on this board......its an extremely tired conversation......

    and that there are no new points to make.......

    If he plays.....great......if he doesnt....no one cares.....(anymore)

  • @dutch-oven said:

    No, I don't. That's the point.

    Just remember guys, this is the same Josh Gordon who had to enter the NFL via the supplemental draft because he'd burned through multiple college football bridges. This seems to be who he is. Hopefully I and others are wrong, he's grown up, now will take his football career seriously and get back to being the dominating WR we saw four years ago. His history, though, indicates that this will not happen.

    And my point is that this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has been said 52,789 times on this board......its an extremely tired conversation......

    and that there are no new points to make.......

    If he plays.....great......if he doesnt....no one cares.....(anymore)

    @mudfly said:

    And my point is that this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has been said 52,789 times on this board......its an extremely tired conversation......

    and that there are no new points to make.......

    If he plays.....great......if he doesnt....no one cares.....(anymore)

    It's an extremely tired conversation that you felt the need to argue.

    Got it.

  • I didnt even realize I was arguing about anything...really just thought I said it's a tired convo and debate.....

    Maybe you're imagining it....

  • @mudfly said:

    And my point is that this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has been said 52,789 times on this board......its an extremely tired conversation......

    and that there are no new points to make.......

    If he plays.....great......if he doesnt....no one cares.....(anymore)

    It's an extremely tired conversation that you felt the need to argue.

    Got it.

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's an extremely tired conversation that you felt the need to argue.

    Got it.

    Upper right corner of homepage..search..Type in Gordon topics..We'll hear from ya about middle of next week..the short version..Roger owns all the coloring books & crayons..Honestly, were all Gordon'd out till he points the finger at Himself..So far Roger pointed at the Rehab Building, Gordon just followed Roger's finger

  • I didnt even realize I was arguing about anything...really just thought I said it's a tired convo and debate.....

    Maybe you're imagining it....

    @mudfly said:

    I didnt even realize I was arguing about anything...really just thought I said it's a tired convo and debate.....

    Maybe you're imagining it....

    Pretty sure that's arguing about debating.😄😛🙄

    You should go over to the politics board where all the master(de)baters hang out talking about the good ole days of Obama and Hillarity bashing.😁

  • I would argue there is no debate.....just extreme apathy for the Gordon thing.....

    But Ill summarize the 57.897 posts......in one simple post....

    1) Josh Gordon is a drug addict loser

    2) Josh Gordon was a drug addict loser in college

    3) Josh Gordon is the most talented receiver weve evr had

    4) Josh Gordon will return

    5) Josh Gordon will never return

    6) Goodell is unfair

    7) Goodell is fair

    😎 Josh Gordon hasnt done anything a thousand other players havent done

    9) Josh Gordon has done this to himself

    10) If he was a Steeler, patriot or Raven this wouldnt be happening

    11) He's only got popped for weed once

    12) Maybe he's done something else

    13) Josh shouldnt hang with Manziel

    Ok.....thats a wrap....

  • LOL! And the winner is........................................^^^^😁

  • @mudfly said:

    I didnt even realize I was arguing about anything...really just thought I said it's a tired convo and debate.....

    Maybe you're imagining it....

    Pretty sure that's arguing about debating.😄😛🙄

    You should go over to the politics board where all the master(de)baters hang out talking about the good ole days of Obama and Hillarity bashing.😁

    @texasag1969 said:

    Pretty sure that's arguing about debating.😄😛🙄

    You should go over to the politics board where all the master(de)baters hang out talking about the good ole days of Obama and Hillarity bashing.😁

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

  • I would argue there is no debate.....just extreme apathy for the Gordon thing.....

    But Ill summarize the 57.897 posts......in one simple post....

    1) Josh Gordon is a drug addict loser

    2) Josh Gordon was a drug addict loser in college

    3) Josh Gordon is the most talented receiver weve evr had

    4) Josh Gordon will return

    5) Josh Gordon will never return

    6) Goodell is unfair

    7) Goodell is fair

    😎 Josh Gordon hasnt done anything a thousand other players havent done

    9) Josh Gordon has done this to himself

    10) If he was a Steeler, patriot or Raven this wouldnt be happening

    11) He's only got popped for weed once

    12) Maybe he's done something else

    13) Josh shouldnt hang with Manziel

    Ok.....thats a wrap....

    @mudfly said:

    I would argue there is no debate.....just extreme apathy for the Gordon thing.....

    But Ill summarize the 57.897 posts......in one simple post....

    1) Josh Gordon is a drug addict loser

    2) Josh Gordon was a drug addict loser in college

    3) Josh Gordon is the most talented receiver weve evr had

    4) Josh Gordon will return

    5) Josh Gordon will never return

    6) Goodell is unfair

    7) Goodell is fair

    😎 Josh Gordon hasnt done anything a thousand other players havent done

    9) Josh Gordon has done this to himself

    10) If he was a Steeler, patriot or Raven this wouldnt be happening

    11) He's only got popped for weed once

    12) Maybe he's done something else

    13) Josh shouldnt hang with Manziel

    Ok.....thats a wrap....

    Fair enough, it has been beaten into the ground on the board I came from too, with far fewer posters.

    Just as long as we all know you weren't arguing or debating, because as you pointed out, you are far too apathetic to continue to respond to such a tired conversation, even though you kept doing it. 😆

  • @westside-steve said:

    Well no matter what you think it sure looks from the outside like he's being singled out for a little extra punishment. Especially given the treatment of some other players around the league.

    WSS

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Possibly, or possibly there's been more to this story that Gordon and his camp has been letting on for years and because the NFL cannot release the details, people have run with the "the NFL is picking on a Browns player", because if there is something we Cleveland sports fans do well, its create a "Cleveland vs the World" narrative, if its real or imagined.

    @dutch-oven said:

    No, I don't. That's the point.

    The NFL cannot come out and give us a blow-by-blow account of every indiscretion Josh Gordon has had since entering the NFL. All we can go by is what we've heard has happened, and to be honest, I wouldn't put it past Gordon's people to leak "news" that makes it seem like their guy is getting a raw deal. Why not? They know the NFL can't come out and release the facts of the case.

    Just remember guys, this is the same Josh Gordon who had to enter the NFL via the supplemental draft because he'd burned through multiple college football bridges. This seems to be who he is. Hopefully I and others are wrong, he's grown up, now will take his football career seriously and get back to being the dominating WR we saw four years ago. His history, though, indicates that this will not happen.

    Well said. We'll see what happens.

    Mike