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  • @flugel said:

    Do people really check into a drug rehab program if they aren't having difficulty staying clean?  That happened last September when he was just 4 weeks away from coming off another suspension.  For a guy that was supposed to be working his way back to playing again - it's a painful reminder he was still using throughout the suspension to the extent he finally sought help.  Inevitably, the sex, drugs and rock and roll throughout the fun he was having off the field (during suspension) added a baby.

    Suddenly, we're right back to the skipping record sincerity that began way back at Baylor throughout 3 failed tests and another at Utah that said he owed it to family, friends and football fans to take his God-given talents more seriously.  If the trend of piss test failures didn't date back about 8 years, the sincerity and best shape of his life stuff sure would be a lot easier to trust this time around. Unfortunately, the WR position group desperately needs an elite talent and so does Kizer. Let's hope this "Up in Smoke" sequel here finally gets us to "and they lived happily ever after in Cleveland..." 

    Well, there's a refreshing take......

    I get it.....maybe he'll screw up again, maybe he wont......maybe we should trust him, but then again, probably not.....maybe he'll find his way back, but then again, maybe not....did I miss anything?....oh, and he had a baby....yeehaw!

    @mudfly said:

    Well, there's a refreshing take......

    I get it......did I miss anything?.... oh, and he had a baby....yeehaw!

    😆 You got twisted nipples over me adding/explaining why there wasn't a 2016 season from Josh  in response to your preference to excuse every test he didn't pass to no potsies?  God bless ya!

    Your new favorite line of "did I miss anything?" is adorable all the way up until someone answers it.    So, you'd rather have me walking on egg shells with a bunch of compliments instead of challenging something you're purposely leaving out?  Wouldn't you say needing drug rehab in Sept 2016 was a HUGE confession of using drugs during a period he was supposed to be clean in his return to work plan?   Geee, why would I want to reintroduce the reason(s) Josh remained suspended after people diverted attention away from that after War 1st brought it up?  It's a pretty significant part of the context and flow of this discussion regardless of how inconvenient you found it. 

    Are we done getting sassy with our buddy Flugel?

  • LOL! Or you have to kiss a lot of fucking frogs before you find your Prince Charming.😛

  • @mudfly said:

    And my point is that this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ has been said 52,789 times on this board......its an extremely tired conversation......

    and that there are no new points to make.......

    If he plays.....great......if he doesnt....no one cares.....(anymore)

    It's an extremely tired conversation that you felt the need to argue.

    Got it.

    @dutch-oven said:

    It's an extremely tired conversation that you felt the need to argue. Got it.

    Before I could point out that all you'd seen so far was not a Mud argument, but only a Mud opinion, up popped...

    @mudfly said:

    I would argue there is no debate.....just extreme apathy for the Gordon thing.....

    But Ill summarize the 57.897 posts......in one simple post....

    1) Josh Gordon is a drug addict loser

    2) Josh Gordon was a drug addict loser in college

    3) Josh Gordon is the most talented receiver weve evr had

    4) Josh Gordon will return

    5) Josh Gordon will never return

    6) Goodell is unfair

    7) Goodell is fair

    😎 Josh Gordon hasnt done anything a thousand other players havent done

    9) Josh Gordon has done this to himself

    10) If he was a Steeler, patriot or Raven this wouldnt be happening

    11) He's only got popped for weed once

    12) Maybe he's done something else

    13) Josh shouldnt hang with Manziel

    Ok.....thats a wrap....

    @flugel said:

    it's a painful reminder he was still using throughout the suspension to the extent he finally sought help.

    Facts not in evidence. It's far more likely that Josh admitted himself either when he felt himself slipping or did in fact slip up at the last moment.

    Think about it. How many jars of his piss do yo think were collected "throughout the suspension"? What do you think they say?

    @dutch-oven said:

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

    Apparently you have peeked...

  • @mudfly said:

    Well, there's a refreshing take......

    I get it......did I miss anything?.... oh, and he had a baby....yeehaw!

    😆 You got twisted nipples over me adding/explaining why there wasn't a 2016 season from Josh  in response to your preference to excuse every test he didn't pass to no potsies?  God bless ya!

    Your new favorite line of "did I miss anything?" is adorable all the way up until someone answers it.    So, you'd rather have me walking on egg shells with a bunch of compliments instead of challenging something you're purposely leaving out?  Wouldn't you say needing drug rehab in Sept 2016 was a HUGE confession of using drugs during a period he was supposed to be clean in his return to work plan?   Geee, why would I want to reintroduce the reason(s) Josh remained suspended after people diverted attention away from that after War 1st brought it up?  It's a pretty significant part of the context and flow of this discussion regardless of how inconvenient you found it. 

    Are we done getting sassy with our buddy Flugel?

    @flugel said:

    Wouldn't you say needing drug rehab in Sept 2016 was a HUGE confession of using drugs during a period he was supposed to be clean in his return to work plan?

    No... see above post.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Pretty sure that's arguing about debating.😄😛🙄

    You should go over to the politics board where all the master(de)baters hang out talking about the good ole days of Obama and Hillarity bashing.😁

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

    @dutch-oven said:

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

    Fair enough. Can't split your time up too much given your responsibilities to the NAMBLA bulletin board.

    😉

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

  • @dutch-oven said:

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

    Fair enough. Can't split your time up too much given your responsibilities to the NAMBLA bulletin board.

    😉

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    Yep that dumpster fire going on in the WH. But that's for the "dark side" board.😆

  • @westside-steve said:

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    Yep that dumpster fire going on in the WH. But that's for the "dark side" board.😆

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yep that dumpster fire going on in the WH. But that's for the "dark side" board.😆

    Simmer down now tex.

    😎

    WSS

  • Browns have now claimed two receivers after picking another one up via trade. 

    They're clearly not putting anything into Josh's potential return

  • @mudfly said:

    Well, there's a refreshing take......

    I get it......did I miss anything?.... oh, and he had a baby....yeehaw!

    😆 You got twisted nipples over me adding/explaining why there wasn't a 2016 season from Josh  in response to your preference to excuse every test he didn't pass to no potsies?  God bless ya!

    Your new favorite line of "did I miss anything?" is adorable all the way up until someone answers it.    So, you'd rather have me walking on egg shells with a bunch of compliments instead of challenging something you're purposely leaving out?  Wouldn't you say needing drug rehab in Sept 2016 was a HUGE confession of using drugs during a period he was supposed to be clean in his return to work plan?   Geee, why would I want to reintroduce the reason(s) Josh remained suspended after people diverted attention away from that after War 1st brought it up?  It's a pretty significant part of the context and flow of this discussion regardless of how inconvenient you found it. 

    Are we done getting sassy with our buddy Flugel?

    @flugel said:

    😆 You got twisted nipples over me adding/explaining why there wasn't a 2016 season from Josh  in response to your preference to excuse every test he didn't pass to no potsies? 

    Nope...not at all.....more of an eye roll and confirmation that we're beating a dead horse.....

  • This is a lot of posts for a gossip thread.

    I thought we were better than the TMZ crowd.

    Although, there are advantages when the gays move in: Home values appreciate, front lawns are manicured, everyone on the block suddenly works out and smiles a lot more..

  • Browns have now claimed two receivers after picking another one up via trade. 

    They're clearly not putting anything into Josh's potential return

    @londonbrown said:

    They're clearly not putting anything into Josh's potential return

    I dunno... there might be 2 rostered WRs that they'd keep over a reinstated JG... 3 tops. So it's not as if his return would take a lot of scenario planning.

  • Holy shit what's going on here in the Flash Gordon Labor Day Telethon? OK so it's not a telethon but merely the sports board's version of one.

    Just curious about another thing who's name has appeared most on TBB Manziel or Gordon? Hmmmmm,  I'll let one of you tally that and I'll check back, really I will, I promise. 😉

    Dammit now I forgot what I was going to say about Johnny or was it Josh? Former self  washed out Cleveland Brown players in general?

  • Holy shit what's going on here in the Flash Gordon Labor Day Telethon? OK so it's not a telethon but merely the sports board's version of one.

    Just curious about another thing who's name has appeared most on TBB Manziel or Gordon? Hmmmmm,  I'll let one of you tally that and I'll check back, really I will, I promise. 😉

    Dammit now I forgot what I was going to say about Johnny or was it Josh? Former self  washed out Cleveland Brown players in general?

    @mjp28 said:

    Holy shit what's going on here in the Flash Gordon Labor Day Telethon? OK so it's not a telethon but merely the sports board's version of one.

    Just curious about another thing who's name has appeared most on TBB Manziel or Gordon? Hmmmmm,  I'll let one of you tally that and I'll check back, really I will, I promise. 😉

    Dammit now I forgot what I was going to say about Johnny or was it Josh? Former self  washed out Cleveland Brown players in general?

    You do a disservice to Justin Gilbert.😛

  • @dutch-oven said:

    There is no way in hell I'm venturing over to that dark corner of the board. I envision an area where the red hat "MAGA" guys are just pounding on their keyboards BENGHAZI over and over in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their little hands orange nightmare of a hero won't be impeached eventually. No. Thank. You. 😆

    Fair enough. Can't split your time up too much given your responsibilities to the NAMBLA bulletin board.

    😉

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Fair enough. Can't split your time up too much given your responsibilities to the NAMBLA bulletin board.

    😉

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    Oh no Steve, NAMBLA meets in person. The next meeting is on Brookfield Dr in Norton, Ohio. The head of the local NAMBLA chapter lives there I guess.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Fair enough. Can't split your time up too much given your responsibilities to the NAMBLA bulletin board.

    😉

    Dutch oven has to be a euphemism for something...

    WSS

    Oh no Steve, NAMBLA meets in person. The next meeting is on Brookfield Dr in Norton, Ohio. The head of the local NAMBLA chapter lives there I guess.

    @dutch-oven said:

    Oh no Steve, NAMBLA meets in person. The next meeting is on Brookfield Dr in Norton, Ohio. The head of the local NAMBLA chapter lives there I guess.

    Brookfield or brooksideBrookfield or brookside

  • Gip, your posts are getting weird, getting weird, Gip, your posts are getting weird. Weird Gip posts getting weird,Posts Gip

  • Gip, your posts are getting weird, getting weird, Gip, your posts are getting weird. Weird Gip posts getting weird,Posts Gip

    @mudfly said:

    Gip, your posts are getting weird, getting weird, Gip, your posts are getting weird. Weird Gip posts getting weird,Posts Gip

    Double troubleDouble trouble

  • I think it's his talk to text. I think it's his talk to text. I think it's his talk to text. I think it's his talk to text.

  • @mudfly said:

    Gip, your posts are getting weird, getting weird, Gip, your posts are getting weird. Weird Gip posts getting weird,Posts Gip

    Double troubleDouble trouble

    @the-gipper said:

    Double troubleDouble trouble

    1 WITCH.  Round about the caldron go;
        In the poison'd entrails throw.—
        Toad, that under cold stone,
        Days and nights has thirty-one;
        Swelter'd venom sleeping got,
        Boil thou first i' the charmed pot!
           ALL.  Double, double toil and trouble

  • I would have thought that a  SRV and Double Trouble reference would have beaten a coven to post...

    Those in the know know that Double Trouble found life after death in a couple, short-lived versions of Arc Angels...