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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gafreleets said:

    I think the Clowns may have well and truly f*cked up.

    By all accounts Haden is having no speed or quickness issues and is in no way overmatched on either AB or Bryant. Also reported that he was able to match step for step with DHB.... arguably the fastest player on our team.

    http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/LOOK-Joe-Haden-takes-on-Martavis-Bryant-in-practice-107052846

    Sounds like a self serving ...and not necessarily true, statement.  If he is so fast and quick....why was that not the case throughout the preseason here?   Because it was not.  He couldn't keep up with Rashard Higgins and Ricardo Louis.....not quite on par with AB.   Was he faking it or dogging it because he didn't want to play for Greg Williams, who had challenged him?

    Or, maybe, as many have said...including your ilk:  Haden will perform better in the Steeler's zone rather than in the man to man that Williams runs. Maybe that is what is happening

    @the-gipper said:

    Sounds like a self serving ...and not necessarily true, statement.  If he is so fast and quick....why was that not the case throughout the preseason here?   Because it was not.  He couldn't keep up with Rashard Higgins and Ricardo Louis.....not quite on par with AB.   Was he faking it or dogging it because he didn't want to play for Greg Williams, who had challenged him?

    Or, maybe, as many have said...including your ilk:  Haden will perform better in the Steeler's zone rather than in the man to man that Williams runs. Maybe that is what is happening

    Not sure.

    Trying to look at objectively, but the Steelers typically don't put out "fluff" or false stories just to generate hype.

    And I haven't heard anything about zone, I've heard about him going 1vs1 without looking mismatched or outclassed.

    Maybe the Stains WRs are just secretly the fastest in the league?

    Don't know, but I do know multiple sources from the Pittsburgh sports media have confirmed this.

    with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben.
  • G Gafreleets

    @the-gipper said:

    Sounds like a self serving ...and not necessarily true, statement.  If he is so fast and quick....why was that not the case throughout the preseason here?   Because it was not.  He couldn't keep up with Rashard Higgins and Ricardo Louis.....not quite on par with AB.   Was he faking it or dogging it because he didn't want to play for Greg Williams, who had challenged him?

    Or, maybe, as many have said...including your ilk:  Haden will perform better in the Steeler's zone rather than in the man to man that Williams runs. Maybe that is what is happening

    Not sure.

    Trying to look at objectively, but the Steelers typically don't put out "fluff" or false stories just to generate hype.

    And I haven't heard anything about zone, I've heard about him going 1vs1 without looking mismatched or outclassed.

    Maybe the Stains WRs are just secretly the fastest in the league?

    Don't know, but I do know multiple sources from the Pittsburgh sports media have confirmed this.

    @gafreleets said:

    Not sure.

    Trying to look at objectively, but the Steelers typically don't put out "fluff" or false stories just to generate hype.

    No...but their fans certainly do....and all we have is your word that he is doing "so great".  

    And I haven't heard anything about zone, I've heard about him going 1vs1 without looking mismatched or outclassed.

    Then it would be the first time in 3 years that that is the case

    Maybe the Stains WRs are just secretly the fastest in the league?

    Or, maybe, except for the one guy, the Steelers WRs ain't all that.  I actually subscribe to this theory more. 

    Don't know, but I do know multiple sources from the Pittsburgh sports media have confirmed this.

    Maybe they are just a wishin' and hopin'....and you know what Dusty Springfield said about that.

  • I will tell you flat out that it is a FACT that the Browns FUCKED up by letting Haden go. 

    He was already under contract and being paid very well for past services rendered. However, he was injured and unable to play the way he was known to play the past year and a half, so big dick Sashi Brown demanded a pay-cut and Haden said, "fuck that noise, I played hurt for this team all year, and even though it effected my stat line, I did it for my team". Then big dick Sashi Brown said, "we didn't draft you, so you either take a pay cut OR you'll be cut within a week if we can't find a team to take your contract off our hands". Haden said, "you do that and I'll be in your nightmares twice a year in a Yellow and Black Freddie Kruger mask..." Sashi said, "Yeah, I doubt that you'll find any team willing to employ an oft injured, over-the-hill veteran with diminished skills... blah, blah, blah" 

    So, in other news. We also let go of Calvin Pryor, who IMO was looking pretty good back there at Safety because of a fight. It would have been a knock out secondary with Peppers/Kindred/Pryor back there. Oh well, at least we have Myles... oh wait, nevermind, he's actually injured too. 

    Same old shit. FUCK!!!!😠

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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  • Haden hasn't lived up to his contract since the ink dried, probably pick 6 balls and got to the Pro Bowl with Pittsburgh this year

  • Can't wait to light that traitor up like a Christmas tree Sunday.

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  • hee haw!!

    dude will retire in a browns uni.

  • Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • U Unsympathetic

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

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    bjh2130B Canton DawgC U The GipperT 4 Replies
  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

  • bjh2130B bjh2130

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    He almost had a int. 

    And then you woke up.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @vagitron said:

    He almost had a int. 

    And then you woke up.

    @canton-dawg said:

    And then you woke up.

    He did, he high pointed the ball but dropped it. 

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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @bjh2130 said:

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

    @vagitron said:

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

    I will give you that he is high character but I have a feeling here in a couple weeks there will be more than a few times where you say wtf was Haden doing there.

    He is a good guy but that doesn't win football games. When he came here he bought into the city was always seen out giving back doing the right thing.

  • U Unsympathetic

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    How about our starting CBs?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Kindred & Boddy-Calhoun made the top 5 in the PFF grading scale for the Browns.

    Not one Steeler DB made the top 5.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-pittsburgh-steelers-21-cleveland-browns-18

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • CB JOE HADEN, 51.4 OVERALL GRADE

    Haden’s first game in a new uniform coincidentally came against his former team. While he broke up a pass early on, the rest of his outing was average at best. He didn’t give up any major plays, but did allow six catches for 80 yards and a 106.3 passer rating into his coverage.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Thanks Canton..shows what I thought.Taylor did have a tough day.----1 block punt TD...1 Taylor pulls a inside hand of Brown that was not catch-able  FG...1 ball before half that could get knocked down tips to Brown TD....1 Ben throw up at end Brown high points between 3 defenders,,ballgame..it truly is a game of who creates your own lucky breaks      

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  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game.

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • U Unsympathetic

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game.

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    No, our offense didnt sustain drives and our defense was on the field a lot. Slow start which is par for the course, especially on the road. Ben isnt exactly mr. Road game. 

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  • IIRC, Haden was 1 foot away from giving up a huge bomb that just barely went out of bounds. Even with that stroke of luck he certainly was not "par for the course". 

    The media, fan base and even FO (if you read between the lines) view the Browns receiving corps as one of the weakest in the league, and Slow Haden was still lucky to average bogey.  

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