Corey Coleman
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Here's what I really like about Corey's game:
He goes up and fights for the ball and has terrific timing. His first touchdown catch was VERY iffy, and I'm guessing he wasn't completely in. We somehow lucked out and didn't have another camera angle, but I'll take it. If I'm nitpicking, I'd say he could've done a better job with his feet. He had time to drag and secure the ball. Again, I'm NITPICKING, but in the pros, sometimes a matter of dragging a foot can mean the difference.
I also like that red zone touchdown call...a LOT. You want to play off Corey? Well, go right ahead. This touchdown was actually set up by the FIRST one. If you watch the first touchdown, you'll see Coleman's defender try to jam him up, but completely miss. You miss on Corey, and he's right by you. Every time. So on the next one, the guy gives Corey a little cushion. Tackling Coleman in the open field does NOT look like fun.
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I also want to know what the refs saw when they overturned his catch along the sidelines where they said he went out of bounds before the catch. I thought they needed indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field. Unless the refs had a viewpoint from a camera shot that they did not show on TV, I saw nothing that would have overturned that call. Quite the opposite, the catch should have been confirmed.
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Not gonna nominate him for HOF status just yet, but am happy to see he finally showed up for a game and made some plays.....and he didnt drop any passes(even though he's still catching with his body).....So, hopefully he builds off this performance and starts stringing some good games together, w/o the drops and bone head penalties.....
even though he's still catching with his body).....So, hopefully he builds off this performance and starts stringing some good games together, w/o the drops and bone head penalties.....
Michael Irvin and many others say there is nothing wrong with body catches if the player can catch with his hands--which Coleman can--and that in traffic it's often even preferable. he's good at it, fuck it. FWIW Antonio Brown is a habitual bodycatcher.
i'll add stay in bounds and drag his toes deliberately to insure the refs cannot deny it is a catch.
Obviously alot of things went against the team this week, mostly refs letting a more veteran team slide on tough (and in some cases obvious calls) while nailing the younger Browns.
i doubt it's a vet vs younger thing, more like when the mafia extorts a business for a protection tax. that game was a message to Haslam to open his wallet and deposit some grip into the "winner's" fund.
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Bottom line is he tossed the ball, and it hit the opponent. That is simply the fact. If he doesn't let the ball out of his hand, then the ref can't make the bad/terrible/tough/good call.
Again, hopefully our coaching staff doesn't just make excuses for the kid, and instead they coach him up so he doesn't put his team in a bad spot again. I think he's going to make the transition to WR just fine, and will be a good one if he's coachable on all aspects, including this one.
Bottom line is he tossed the ball, and it hit the opponent. That is simply the fact. If he doesn't let the ball out of his hand, then the ref can't make the bad/terrible/tough/good call.
Again, hopefully our coaching staff doesn't just make excuses for the kid, and instead they coach him up so he doesn't put his team in a bad spot again. I think he's going to make the transition to WR just fine, and will be a good one if he's coachable on all aspects, including this one.
i hope he never hands another ball to a ref ever again and just drops it on the ground. fuck those part time sellout assholes. tossing it to them is a courtesy. i wish there wasn't fallout from them and the team could never flip them a ball again...you just can't fight city hall.
i wonder how poorly a team would fare without cheating? basically without holds or DB seatbelts and armbars, WRs pushing off etc.
could a team play well enough to totally remove the refs from the game? play so legally teamwide you overcome any call and force the refs to call something soooo outrageous it risks exposing bias internationally?
sounds impossible.
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Here's what I really like about Corey's game:
He goes up and fights for the ball and has terrific timing. His first touchdown catch was VERY iffy, and I'm guessing he wasn't completely in. We somehow lucked out and didn't have another camera angle, but I'll take it. If I'm nitpicking, I'd say he could've done a better job with his feet. He had time to drag and secure the ball. Again, I'm NITPICKING, but in the pros, sometimes a matter of dragging a foot can mean the difference.
I also like that red zone touchdown call...a LOT. You want to play off Corey? Well, go right ahead. This touchdown was actually set up by the FIRST one. If you watch the first touchdown, you'll see Coleman's defender try to jam him up, but completely miss. You miss on Corey, and he's right by you. Every time. So on the next one, the guy gives Corey a little cushion. Tackling Coleman in the open field does NOT look like fun.
Here's what I really like about Corey's game:
He goes up and fights for the ball and has terrific timing. His first touchdown catch was VERY iffy, and I'm guessing he wasn't completely in. We somehow lucked out and didn't have another camera angle, but I'll take it. If I'm nitpicking, I'd say he could've done a better job with his feet. He had time to drag and secure the ball. Again, I'm NITPICKING, but in the pros, sometimes a matter of dragging a foot can mean the difference.
I also like that red zone touchdown call...a LOT. You want to play off Corey? Well, go right ahead. This touchdown was actually set up by the FIRST one. If you watch the first touchdown, you'll see Coleman's defender try to jam him up, but completely miss. You miss on Corey, and he's right by you. Every time. So on the next one, the guy gives Corey a little cushion. Tackling Coleman in the open field does NOT look like fun.
agree on the toe drags. it matters and that TD catch looked like it could have gone either way.
my favorite intangible of his is his ability to track the ball is elite. rain, sleet, snow, hail, and under lights you need it. you can't coach it and not everyone has it. WR Little and TE Dray did not for example.
one on one with a DB in open space Coleman gets past them probably 6/10 times now. he has the ability to be a 8/10,9/10 level player. tough. lands on the ball carrying a defender and gets up and walks away. unlike many i have seen who lay on the ground in a crumpled pile fetal position. we will be attempting to extend his contract early and locking this guy up for a while.
CC, TP, and JG as a WR core is a daydream that's about to become a reality for years to come. simply catching his TD's in bounds clearer and learning the playbook better are really good problems for a rookie WR to have. he's way ahead of the rookie WR curve.
I also want to know what the refs saw when they overturned his catch along the sidelines where they said he went out of bounds before the catch. I thought they needed indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field. Unless the refs had a viewpoint from a camera shot that they did not show on TV, I saw nothing that would have overturned that call. Quite the opposite, the catch should have been confirmed.
i agree. it's why they never scored again.
the game appears very controllable through reffing when the players are inconsistent at executing.
i have this theory. it involves two or more people conspiring to...
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I would like to give a shout out to Corey Coleman for today's game against the Steelers.
I know his numbers aren't huge or anything...but he caught the balls.
And that was a very physical TD reception he made! Close quarters, got POUNDED right in the head (and body) RIGHT after getting the ball. He held on and got the TD! He earned a little respect in my book right there.
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Stop re-animating year-old threads
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Stop re-animating year-old threads
Stop re-animating year-old threads
This. It always confuses me. I'm slow and admit it and it takes me too much time to process and put together that what l'm reading isn't current or pertinent. Just start a new thread please.
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I think Corey started to emerge today.
Next need to see him grab one in stride and see his broken field game.
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Coleman is a #4 receiver in Pittsburgh. He is nothing remarkable.
And....to do what they often do in political reporting: Correct errors and falsities: An uninjured Coleman is likely the #2 WR for the Steelers.
Has he proven anything completely? Not yet. But talent wise, he would be #2.
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I think Corey started to emerge today.
Next need to see him grab one in stride and see his broken field game.
I think Corey started to emerge today.
Next need to see him grab one in stride and see his broken field game.
I will say this though:
It is highly likely that the Browns will be playing a much better defensive secondary in the Ravens than they faced in the Steelers. While I think overall the Steelers will be the better team.....the Ravens will have the incrementally better defense. Particularly in the defensive backfield.
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Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
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Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
Try 11ish games Mud. Ten of those were last year, so now it's time to move on to 2017 & hope the kid has a better & healthier year. He had an OK start yesterday. It's obvious you don't like him, but you ARE still a Browns' Fan, right? Your negativity toward Coleman & Sashi are starting to wear thin.
Mike
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It's game one and it looks like we have something with Kizer throwing him the ball. Of course it's too early for either one of them. But you can't deny they are playing good.
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Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
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Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
No, it's not enough to say he's "arrived" or anything, but that catch he made at the goal line, on FOURTH down, when he knew he was gonna get smoked is pretty big time. Also, that catch he made on that awful low throw across the middle was outstanding. As I mentioned in another post, if Kizer actually hits him in stride (wouldn't THAT be nice?), Corey goes a LONG way. (ironically, Kizer's best ball of the day was thrown in stride to Britt, who promptly dropped it and pretty much doomed any chance to win).
The important thing was that Coleman didn't get hurt (thank GOD), and he didn't have any drops (ahem, Britt, Ricardo). What does Corey need to do to further prove his merit? Well, he needs to be consistent, that's the main thing. He also needs to make some plays that go beyond just catching it. By that I mean Corey needs to "break free" somehow. He needs to make a catch, make a guy miss, and he needs to turn it up field somehow, some way. Now I know Antonio Brown is just a freak of a player, and not every team has a guy like that, but Christ...how many 8 yard catches did Brown have that he turned into big yards? We NEED that from somebody, and it's probably going to be Corey.
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Aahaha,,,,,a revisit to the "i told ya so" thread that popped up as soon as Corey had his only good game.....and now, one year later, he has an "ok" game and back it comes....hahahahaha.......oh my......
1 good game and 1 ok game, outta 17ish games aint enough guys.....
No, it's not enough to say he's "arrived" or anything, but that catch he made at the goal line, on FOURTH down, when he knew he was gonna get smoked is pretty big time. Also, that catch he made on that awful low throw across the middle was outstanding. As I mentioned in another post, if Kizer actually hits him in stride (wouldn't THAT be nice?), Corey goes a LONG way. (ironically, Kizer's best ball of the day was thrown in stride to Britt, who promptly dropped it and pretty much doomed any chance to win).
The important thing was that Coleman didn't get hurt (thank GOD), and he didn't have any drops (ahem, Britt, Ricardo). What does Corey need to do to further prove his merit? Well, he needs to be consistent, that's the main thing. He also needs to make some plays that go beyond just catching it. By that I mean Corey needs to "break free" somehow. He needs to make a catch, make a guy miss, and he needs to turn it up field somehow, some way. Now I know Antonio Brown is just a freak of a player, and not every team has a guy like that, but Christ...how many 8 yard catches did Brown have that he turned into big yards? We NEED that from somebody, and it's probably going to be Corey.
No, it's not enough to say he's "arrived" or anything, but that catch he made at the goal line, on FOURTH down, when he knew he was gonna get smoked is pretty big time. Also, that catch he made on that awful low throw across the middle was outstanding. As I mentioned in another post, if Kizer actually hits him in stride (wouldn't THAT be nice?), Corey goes a LONG way. (ironically, Kizer's best ball of the day was thrown in stride to Britt, who promptly dropped it and pretty much doomed any chance to win).
The important thing was that Coleman didn't get hurt (thank GOD), and he didn't have any drops (ahem, Britt, Ricardo). What does Corey need to do to further prove his merit? Well, he needs to be consistent, that's the main thing. He also needs to make some plays that go beyond just catching it. By that I mean Corey needs to "break free" somehow. He needs to make a catch, make a guy miss, and he needs to turn it up field somehow, some way. Now I know Antonio Brown is just a freak of a player, and not every team has a guy like that, but Christ...how many 8 yard catches did Brown have that he turned into big yards? We NEED that from somebody, and it's probably going to be Corey.
Or Maybe someone kind of like KCs Tyreek Hill. He had the second fastest 200 m time ever in high school which would have placed him 6th in the world in the last olympics.
Or maybe someone else with similar speed like oh, say......................................Travis Benjamin. LOL!!!!
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