I Trust In Kizer
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Wait until the heat is turned up. Again, I believe he should have been named the starter from day one. I also hope this is my worst prediction ever and he turns out to be a great QB for us. I just don't see it.
I get that... but we'll also be starting our #1's. Plus have to remember that half (I'm guestimating) of the 8 carries have been designed, read-option runs. I expect us to see 2-3 of the these per week.
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Yes... but also way too early to say he's not the guy.
Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Yes... but also way too early to say he's not the guy.
Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so
Well, I guess we're due then...........
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Yes... but also way too early to say he's not the guy.
Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
But those in the know know that a decade's worth of misses has no more impact on the next selection's odds of success than a coin flip history has on the odds of the next flip. And that's not even considering that this is a new FO. It's what the naysayers are ignorant of...
But then there's the matter of what he will or won't "be". Starter? Franchise? All-Pro? Elite? Very different odds for very different levels...
I'm not prejudging this one. So at minimum IMO it's a closer call than was RG3 or JFF or Wheezy or many more now fading deep into obscurity. Rather this time I see hope and just want to look for signs of progress.
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Yes... but also way too early to say he's not the guy.
Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Except that their pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Not to be a dick but the odds are huge that he won't be just given the past decade or so. Some guys are negative about the quarterback with every single one to take a snap. So far the naysayers have been correct every time. Drawing to an inside straight is never a high success play but we can certainly still hope.
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Except that their pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Except that their pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Quarterbacks who hold on to the ball too long don't even get a chance to learn otherwise, even if it could be corrected. QBs who are run first, like Kizer, all hold the ball too long. hey all get hit mercilessly, and viciously as a rule. Kizer's life line in the NFL is not long. Some QBs don't get hit that much in 8 games. Add to that, this kid will take off and run, given that he is not polished, tells you he is going to get blasted, and blasted hard.
Will the Ravens take him out? There is a good chance. Will it please me? Not from a standpoint of a nice kid getting hurt, no. But from the perspective of me again being right while you guys spend the entire season in misery, not able to come post on the board because once again, Ghoolie was right? Yep, you're damned right it will please me. But hey, don't blame me, I never wanted a black Tarkenton, nor a Cowboy wannabe with toothpick ankles.
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Except that their pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Quarterbacks who hold on to the ball too long don't even get a chance to learn otherwise, even if it could be corrected. QBs who are run first, like Kizer, all hold the ball too long. hey all get hit mercilessly, and viciously as a rule. Kizer's life line in the NFL is not long. Some QBs don't get hit that much in 8 games. Add to that, this kid will take off and run, given that he is not polished, tells you he is going to get blasted, and blasted hard.
Will the Ravens take him out? There is a good chance. Will it please me? Not from a standpoint of a nice kid getting hurt, no. But from the perspective of me again being right while you guys spend the entire season in misery, not able to come post on the board because once again, Ghoolie was right? Yep, you're damned right it will please me. But hey, don't blame me, I never wanted a black Tarkenton, nor a Cowboy wannabe with toothpick ankles.
Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Quarterbacks who hold on to the ball too long don't even get a chance to learn otherwise, even if it could be corrected. QBs who are run first, like Kizer, all hold the ball too long. hey all get hit mercilessly, and viciously as a rule. Kizer's life line in the NFL is not long. Some QBs don't get hit that much in 8 games. Add to that, this kid will take off and run, given that he is not polished, tells you he is going to get blasted, and blasted hard.
Will the Ravens take him out? There is a good chance. Will it please me? Not from a standpoint of a nice kid getting hurt, no. But from the perspective of me again being right while you guys spend the entire season in misery, not able to come post on the board because once again, Ghoolie was right? Yep, you're damned right it will please me. But hey, don't blame me, I never wanted a black Tarkenton, nor a Cowboy wannabe with toothpick ankles.
Stopped after the first two sentences.
Jared Goff would like a word with you.
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Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Quarterbacks who hold on to the ball too long don't even get a chance to learn otherwise, even if it could be corrected. QBs who are run first, like Kizer, all hold the ball too long. hey all get hit mercilessly, and viciously as a rule. Kizer's life line in the NFL is not long. Some QBs don't get hit that much in 8 games. Add to that, this kid will take off and run, given that he is not polished, tells you he is going to get blasted, and blasted hard.
Will the Ravens take him out? There is a good chance. Will it please me? Not from a standpoint of a nice kid getting hurt, no. But from the perspective of me again being right while you guys spend the entire season in misery, not able to come post on the board because once again, Ghoolie was right? Yep, you're damned right it will please me. But hey, don't blame me, I never wanted a black Tarkenton, nor a Cowboy wannabe with toothpick ankles.
Stopped after the first two sentences.
Jared Goff would like a word with you.
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Except that their pessimism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Quarterbacks who hold on to the ball too long don't even get a chance to learn otherwise, even if it could be corrected. QBs who are run first, like Kizer, all hold the ball too long. hey all get hit mercilessly, and viciously as a rule. Kizer's life line in the NFL is not long. Some QBs don't get hit that much in 8 games. Add to that, this kid will take off and run, given that he is not polished, tells you he is going to get blasted, and blasted hard.
Will the Ravens take him out? There is a good chance. Will it please me? Not from a standpoint of a nice kid getting hurt, no. But from the perspective of me again being right while you guys spend the entire season in misery, not able to come post on the board because once again, Ghoolie was right? Yep, you're damned right it will please me. But hey, don't blame me, I never wanted a black Tarkenton, nor a Cowboy wannabe with toothpick ankles.
Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Well then, lets just cut him now and put in Hogan or Kessler or go get some scrub off the street..
Of course, if you were right....then probably John Elway, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Ben R. Eli Manning, Drew Brees....all these guys should have been cut since they all each held the ball too long in their rookie seasons.
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Kizer holds the ball too long. This is not something that can be improved upon. His synapses are what they are. His habits, his internal timer to get rid of the bal has long ago been emblazoned in his brain. 7 sacks is not just a rookie issue. It is the issue of a dimwit.
Well then, lets just cut him now and put in Hogan or Kessler or go get some scrub off the street..
Of course, if you were right....then probably John Elway, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Ben R. Eli Manning, Drew Brees....all these guys should have been cut since they all each held the ball too long in their rookie seasons.
Well then, lets just cut him now and put in Hogan
Oh man, you might as well of just said PoG out loud 3 straight times, cause he's a comin'.....
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LOOK BEHIND YOU IN THE MIRROR!!!!
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Well then, lets just cut him now and put in Hogan
Oh man, you might as well of just said PoG out loud 3 straight times, cause he's a comin'.....
Oh man, you might as well of just said PoG out loud 3 straight times, cause he's a comin'.....
I wonder if PoG is really Beetlejuice. The mods should program it so that Beetlejuice is his permanent avatar:
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I don't agree that a QB can't learn to get rid of the ball quicker. He plays, he watches the film, he practices, and he tries to execute better the next time. In fact, I think Kizer has what it takes to become a very good QB in this league. There, I said it. Let's go back and see how many times I've said that in our team's new history...oh yeah...never. There was a time when I thought Manziel had a chance, but it all revolved him getting his shit together, and we all pretty much knew that wouldn't happen.
Why would I happen to give Kizer such a glowing endorsement after one game? And why would I do this right before I picked Kizer to struggle against the Ravens? I'm glad you asked. I see Kizer as our first legitimate QB in years because of his work ethic, his attitude, his ideal size, mobility, and of course his arm. His intelligence and work ethic were obvious to anyone when he was the ONLY rookie QB to start the season. Read that line again because it's noteworthy. True, Deshaun Watson got playing time and will likely start this week, but he didn't start the season as QB #1. Not Mahomes, not Trubisky, and not anyone except for our 2nd round pick, Kizer. Everything I read and heard says just learning the freaking verbiage is a monumental challenge, and calling a play correctly in the huddle is a giant hurdle. Kizer went on summer break, and reported to training camp with MUCH better knowledge of our playbook and language. That's impressive to me.
There's no denying Kizer's arm, and the ball "gets there" quickly. It might not always get there ACCURATELY, but when he has a clean pocket and steps into the toss, he typically does well. How about that 1st first down we got when he drilled the ball to Njoku? THAT was accuracy and power. You think Kessler made that pass last year? That 4th quarter laser to Ricardo Louis? I'll be the first one to admit Kizer isn't perfect, but I truly believe he's a fantastic candidate. The difficult part is holding tight during the tough moments, and like I've said, one of those "moments" could come against a Ravens' defense who pitched a freaking shutout. No kidding, I watched some of that game and at times it looked like they had 14 DB's back there waiting for the ball.
This isn't to say Kizer can't learn from his mistakes and play better, hell, I WANT to be wrong. I WANT the kid to come out and tear them a new butthole. I just don't THINK it's going to happen. I will say this: If our Browns are going to keep it close and perhaps sneak out a win, Kizer will ABSOLUTELY have to nail the deep passes when they present themselves. He can't push a guy towards the sideline (Kasen Williams still could've caught it, grrrr), can't rifle it over their head, and can't "miss" a guy who breaks free down the field. If we get a shot, he has to hit it...pretty simple. It's not "easy", but it is simple. I'd also like to see Kizer hit a few more guys in stride so we can get more YAC. Especially to Coleman.
I believe so much in Kizer that I think the biggest hurdle to his success is his physical health. He can't learn and get better if he's injured, and THAT'S what worries me the most. He didn't take too many bad hits, and some were illegal and flagged, but there were 2 or 3 hits he could've avoided entirely. Something Peyton Manning said years ago comes to mind, and he said that he learned the most about playing QB when he was down 30 points in the 4th quarter. In other words, even though his team was losing, he was still out there learning and getting better. Kizer can't do that if he's on the bench, so it's imperative that he learns quickly how to care for his health.
Like I've said before, and several of you guys didn't like it, we win this game if we have Myles Garrett, Crow finds just 3-4 holes, and our special teams doesn't shit that golden brick. It's uncanny how Crow seems to run AWAY from the holes, and I really thought he made progress last year with this. It's just one game, and he'll watch the tape and hopefully get on track, but he left some serious yards out there, and our running game didn't do a damn thing to help our young gun. We don't need to talk about that blocked punt. The first effing possession of the first effing game....shame on you assholes.
But did Kizer panic? Did he fall apart? No, he kept it together, and with the help of a ton of penalties, tied the game up 7-7. THAT'S what I'm looking for in a young QB. I'm telingl ya, Kizer has the tools, and if he's healthy, he's going to be "our guy". I know it. Even if he struggles this week against the Ravens, hell, even if he struggles in SEVERAL games this season, I still think we're going to say at the end of the year, "Wow, we actually did it. We actually have our QB."
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I don't agree that a QB can't learn to get rid of the ball quicker.
Of course they can. Anyone who thinks they can't is.....again.... just a guy going full Retard. (and you know who we mean)
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How 'bout my guy? Just may have a chance...
That boy good. In all seriousness, a much better command of the offense and understanding his progression level. Timing and accuracy as expected came with another year in said offense. Both he and Wentz are looking like they're panning out. Of course I related Goff more to Rodgers and Wentz more to Farve.
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