2018 picks, as it stands
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On a related note, the wentz trade down in diagram form
Man... that is good stuff... nice distillation of the sequence of events.
To be continued?
Man... that is good stuff... nice distillation of the sequence of events.
To be continued?
Well we have to wait until these guys develop into starters so that we can trade them for even more picks, we can't stop until we have enough to satisfy the ego of "Big Dick" Sashi Brown.
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Shit, Big Dick Sashi Brown could have probably gotten 2 first round picks for that monster Richardson.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Shit, Big Dick Sashi Brown could have probably gotten 2 first round picks for that monster Richardson.
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If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
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If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
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On a related note, the wentz trade down in diagram form
On a related note, the wentz trade down in diagram form
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
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On a related note, the wentz trade down in diagram form
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
LOL! All you need to know is we turned one very high 1st round pick into all those players on the far right plus the Eagles 2nd round pick in 2018 and the Texans 1st round pick in 2018. And if you saw how bad the Texans played this past Sunday, there is a chance they start 0-3 this year with Cinn. tonight and New England in Foxboro the following week. It's mathematically possible for us to be in the same spot we were in when we made the original trade plus having our own 1st rounder and Philly's 2nd rounder. Now that there in Texas is called being a wheeler dealer.
PS-pray the Texans fold their tent early this year. They have one of the worst coaches in the league so there's a chance they end up where we were last year, #1 overall pick. And that would belong to us because of the diagram.
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So for one 10/10 player we got ten 7/10 players?
And we could have no.1 overall pick next year too?
Yeah that sounds like a deal
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Holy cow, l didn't realize the breakdown of what Carson Wentz got us. A starting and backup QB, 2 starting safeties, starting right tackle, starting WR, my man Ricardo effing Louis, some other guys, and who knows what we'll spin next year's pick into.
This moneyball thing is kinda fun.
Holy cow, l didn't realize the breakdown of what Carson Wentz got us. A starting and backup QB, 2 starting safeties, starting right tackle, starting WR, my man Ricardo effing Louis, some other guys, and who knows what we'll spin next year's pick into.
This moneyball thing is kinda fun.
It will be even "funner" when we start winning games. I'm hoping we can get out of September at 2 & 2, we'll see.
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So for one 10/10 player we got ten 7/10 players?
And we could have no.1 overall pick next year too?
Yeah that sounds like a deal
So for one 10/10 player we got ten 7/10 players?
And we could have no.1 overall pick next year too?
Yeah that sounds like a deal
Plus it appears to me at this early date that we ended up with a pretty good QB ourselves plus his backup. Such a deal!
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If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
Not a fan of your plan for a couple reasons...
- After the deadline there are two months of football left. While IMO we will likely be "out of it", we will still be in the QB evaluating mode and downgrading our LT significantly does not aid that process.
- Not feeling the trade value you are. We've shopped Joe in the past (two years ago?) and word was we came away unimpressed with the offers. Teams don't pony up 1's let alone "1's plus" for players at the end of their careers... even great players.
- If you do the deal, then you generate an immediate, Day One draft need on top of a what could already turn out to be a very needy Day One.
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
Happy to... just follow these three easy steps...
- Make a copy of the diagram.
- Bring it to the Admiralty Pub on Trafalgar Square the evening of 28 October
- Buy me a pint...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wait...
Wentz is a "10/10" player?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
Not a fan of your plan for a couple reasons...
- After the deadline there are two months of football left. While IMO we will likely be "out of it", we will still be in the QB evaluating mode and downgrading our LT significantly does not aid that process.
- Not feeling the trade value you are. We've shopped Joe in the past (two years ago?) and word was we came away unimpressed with the offers. Teams don't pony up 1's let alone "1's plus" for players at the end of their careers... even great players.
- If you do the deal, then you generate an immediate, Day One draft need on top of a what could already turn out to be a very needy Day One.
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
Happy to... just follow these three easy steps...
- Make a copy of the diagram.
- Bring it to the Admiralty Pub on Trafalgar Square the evening of 28 October
- Buy me a pint...
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
This alone makes him a "keeper". Every team needs that veteran presence to set the tone for all the youngsters. Joe will retire a Brown when he thinks it's time and not before, moneyballers be damned.
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If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
Fuck off newbie.
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If the Browns are out of it by the October 31st trade deadline, is now the right time to move Joe Thomas for a 1st + 2nd or 3rd rounder? He's going to be 33 years old and with us in rebuild mode, do we deal him before he breaks down and it's too late to get anything?
Personally, I think they should since he's likely going to be either retired or not so good by the time the Browns are ready to be a contender.
Adding a couple more high picks from guy nearing the end would be huge.
Not a fan of your plan for a couple reasons...
- After the deadline there are two months of football left. While IMO we will likely be "out of it", we will still be in the QB evaluating mode and downgrading our LT significantly does not aid that process.
- Not feeling the trade value you are. We've shopped Joe in the past (two years ago?) and word was we came away unimpressed with the offers. Teams don't pony up 1's let alone "1's plus" for players at the end of their careers... even great players.
- If you do the deal, then you generate an immediate, Day One draft need on top of a what could already turn out to be a very needy Day One.
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
Jeeez....can someone talk me through that!! I'm just getting my head round the draft system etc but that is too much too soon!
(New british fan)
Happy to... just follow these three easy steps...
- Make a copy of the diagram.
- Bring it to the Admiralty Pub on Trafalgar Square the evening of 28 October
- Buy me a pint...
Not a fan of your plan for a couple reasons...
- After the deadline there are two months of football left. While IMO we will likely be "out of it", we will still be in the QB evaluating mode and downgrading our LT significantly does not aid that process.
- Not feeling the trade value you are. We've shopped Joe in the past (two years ago?) and word was we came away unimpressed with the offers. Teams don't pony up 1's let alone "1's plus" for players at the end of their careers... even great players.
- If you do the deal, then you generate an immediate, Day One draft need on top of a what could already turn out to be a very needy Day One.
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
There could be some desperate teams (Seahawks for one) willing to trade 2 high picks for the last season and a half of his contact (until he's 35). Thomas doesn't have much time left and certainly won't be as good as he is now when we're ready to contend. Wouldn't you rather trade him to a desperate team at the deadline then use those draft picks for a LT Garett Bolles AND G Forrest Lamp/RT Taylor Moton type in the 2018 draft? Clearing all that cap room to roll over to next season won't hurt either.
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Not a fan of your plan for a couple reasons...
- After the deadline there are two months of football left. While IMO we will likely be "out of it", we will still be in the QB evaluating mode and downgrading our LT significantly does not aid that process.
- Not feeling the trade value you are. We've shopped Joe in the past (two years ago?) and word was we came away unimpressed with the offers. Teams don't pony up 1's let alone "1's plus" for players at the end of their careers... even great players.
- If you do the deal, then you generate an immediate, Day One draft need on top of a what could already turn out to be a very needy Day One.
Joe looks damn good. He has no injury history. He is under contract thru 2018 and may well extend another couple years. He's a Brown... the Brown. I keep him.
There could be some desperate teams (Seahawks for one) willing to trade 2 high picks for the last season and a half of his contact (until he's 35). Thomas doesn't have much time left and certainly won't be as good as he is now when we're ready to contend. Wouldn't you rather trade him to a desperate team at the deadline then use those draft picks for a LT Garett Bolles AND G Forrest Lamp/RT Taylor Moton type in the 2018 draft? Clearing all that cap room to roll over to next season won't hurt either.
There could be some desperate teams (Seahawks for one) willing to trade 2 high picks for the last season and a half of his contact (until he's 35). Thomas doesn't have much time left and certainly won't be as good as he is now when we're ready to contend. Wouldn't you rather trade him to a desperate team at the deadline then use those draft picks for a LT Garett Bolles AND RT Taylor Moton types in the 2018 draft?
Fuck off Newbie
JT will retire as a Brown.
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There could be some desperate teams (Seahawks for one) willing to trade 2 high picks for the last season and a half of his contact (until he's 35). Thomas doesn't have much time left and certainly won't be as good as he is now when we're ready to contend. Wouldn't you rather trade him to a desperate team at the deadline then use those draft picks for a LT Garett Bolles AND RT Taylor Moton types in the 2018 draft?
Fuck off Newbie
JT will retire as a Brown.
Fuck off Newbie
Oh and welcome to the Board.
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Darnolds going #1. Tough call if we have a near top pick. Do wevstay with kizer or not....personally i hope kizer wirks out so we dont have to trade up for darnold and we can actually trade down and maybe get nick bosa along with many others
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