NFL struggles in LA

The Gipper

@mjp28 said:

Look at the USA top 10 cities (2010/2012 numbers), all big NFL, MLB, NBA cities but two....did the NFL try to force the fit and it backfired?

1
New York City; New York
8,175,133

8,336,697

161,564

2
Los Angeles; California
3,792,621

3,857,799

65,178

3
Chicago; Illinois
2,695,598

2,714,856

19,258

4
Houston; Texas
2,099,451

2,160,821

61,370

5
Philadelphia; Pennsylvania
1,526,006

1,547,607

21,601

6
Phoenix; Arizona
1,445,632

1,488,750

43,118

7
San Antonio; Texas
1,327,407

1,382,951

55,544

8
San Diego; California
1,307,402

1,338,348

30,946

9
Dallas; Texas
1,197,816

1,241,162

43,346

10
San Jose; California
945,942

982,765

36,82

Oh FYI of the top 50 cities only two had population decreases from 2010 to 2012 Cleveland and Detroit.

Oh....the NFL most definitely tried (and succeeded) to force the fit. Though I guess they could have gotten nowhere with that if they did not have an owner (Kroenke) who was willing to put up most of the money to build the stadium....in the belief that he will make a pile more money from it. I suspect that the state of California said nyet when it came to putting in money. And correct me if I am wrong....the new stadium ibeing built is not actually in the City of Los Angeles proper...but in some suburb. Ergo I suspect that the city/county didn't contribute much to the stadium.

But, I guess it is a fair deal for LA......they just got named host of the 2028 Summer Olympics....and that Stadium is supposed to be a prime venue.

miktoxic

@the-gipper said:

Oh....the NFL most definitely tried (and succeeded) to force the fit. Though I guess they could have gotten nowhere with that if they did not have an owner (Kroenke) who was willing to put up most of the money to build the stadium....in the belief that he will make a pile more money from it. I suspect that the state of California said nyet when it came to putting in money. And correct me if I am wrong....the new stadium ibeing built is not actually in the City of Los Angeles proper...but in some suburb. Ergo I suspect that the city/county didn't contribute much to the stadium.

But, I guess it is a fair deal for LA......they just got named host of the 2028 Summer Olympics....and that Stadium is supposed to be a prime venue.

ur such the attorney. i'll let u know when i need ur help after shooting commies..........and a bunch of cunts.

Mark O

@the-gipper said:

Oh....the NFL most definitely tried (and succeeded) to force the fit. Though I guess they could have gotten nowhere with that if they did not have an owner (Kroenke) who was willing to put up most of the money to build the stadium....in the belief that he will make a pile more money from it. I suspect that the state of California said nyet when it came to putting in money. And correct me if I am wrong....the new stadium ibeing built is not actually in the City of Los Angeles proper...but in some suburb. Ergo I suspect that the city/county didn't contribute much to the stadium.

But, I guess it is a fair deal for LA......they just got named host of the 2028 Summer Olympics....and that Stadium is supposed to be a prime venue.

The stadium will be a huge venue for the Olympics. Kronke paid for most of the stadium as I understand it but then also got some concessions from the league in exchange for giving them office space there and the NFL combine will be held in LA once the stadium is done and there will be other events as well. The new stadium is in Inglewood, right near the Forum (where the Lakers and Kings used to play before Staples center) and its about a 10 minute drive from the airport.

miktoxic

@mark-o said:

The stadium will be a huge venue for the Olympics. Kronke paid for most of the stadium as I understand it but then also got some concessions from the league in exchange for giving them office space there and the NFL combine will be held in LA once the stadium is done and there will be other events as well. The new stadium is in Inglewood, right near the Forum (where the Lakers and Kings used to play before Staples center) and its about a 10 minute drive from the airport.

nowhere near Compton........hmmmmmmm.

sanctuary state.

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:

ur such the attorney. i'll let u know when i need ur help after shooting commies..........and a bunch of cunts.

So? Suicide is an option for you?

Dont do it mik!

There are too many people who _________(insert one: love or hate) you who will miss you if you go!

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:

nowhere near Compton........hmmmmmmm.

sanctuary state.

Actually, aren't they like right next to each other?

http://distancesonline.com/Compton,CA/Inglewood,CA

Mark O

@the-gipper said:

Actually, aren't they like right next to each other?

http://distancesonline.com/Compton,CA/Inglewood,CA

13 miles is hardly right next to each other. That could take an hour to drive

Tour2ma

@mark-o said:

13 miles is hardly right next to each other. That could take an hour to drive

Depending on time of day you bet... but I have to say Cali drivers are among the best I've been on the road with.

A year ago tooling around Sacramento over to the Bay Area and up to NAPA when traffic got a little heavy folks just slowed, stayed in their lanes and stayed reasonably spaced... for the most part... there's always a couple ass-hats, but far fewer than in Texas... or the NE, which is off the fuckin'-ass-hole charts... especially Connecticut.

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

Depending on time of day you bet... but I have to say Cali drivers are among the best I've been on the road with.

A year ago tooling around Sacramento over to the Bay Area and up to NAPA when traffic got a little heavy folks just slowed, stayed in their lanes and stayed reasonably spaced... for the most part... there's always a couple ass-hats, but far fewer than in Texas... or the NE, which is off the fuckin'-ass-hole charts... especially Connecticut.

And in Cali it's legal for motorcycles to go between cars lined up in two lanes (or more). Amazing!

stillmotion

@texasag1969 said:

And in Cali it's legal for motorcycles to go between cars lined up in two lanes (or more). Amazing!

True that. i'm guilty of doing this.

but its completely Retarded the chargers stadium is a damn soccer field

Tour2ma

@texasag1969 said:

And in Cali it's legal for motorcycles to go between cars lined up in two lanes (or more). Amazing!

Did not know it was legal, but they are pretty chill about it... going faster, but not fast. And not weaving... just riding the stripes.

I had a Rocket bike pass me on I-20 driving home from the kiddo's place in August. Must have been doing 150... I never saw him coming. Barely saw him going. Passed me on the right a few car lengths after I'd completed a pass and maybe 10 lengths shy of starting another pass. Had I elected to tuck in, he'd have been in my back seat.

Unsympathetic

LA has been terrible-horrible-no-good for the Raiders since the beginning of time .. was a Raiders game ever not blacked out at home? .. and now they think it's magically delicious enough for 2 different teams? At least the Raiders were fake bad-ass so LA could half cheer for that.. Can't say the same for Rams and Chargers..

When I lived in Baltimore and DC seemingly once a month I'd be driving somewhere and I'd see a [the?] bike gang riding the outerbelt doing standup rear peg wheelies at 70mph.. Luckily, the hospital always needs more trauma level 1 visits..

SD_Tom

I lived in LA for 12 years. If you're not winning, they're not watching. Way too many teams to follow, and even way more shit to do. It's sunny every day with anything you could possibly want to do available pretty much 24/7.

And the traffic is just crazy. You better have a damn good reason for people to get on the 405 out here. Cleveland traffic in a freak blizzard at rush hour is still lighter than LA at 8pm or 10pm on a weekday.

miktoxic

florida and az are the worse for driver inability. snowbirds who have their left blinker on for 10 miles and then make a right turn doing 2.5 mph.........or it's the old "i thought it was in reverse!" as they slam through the 7 eleven killing 10 kids.

Alkid3

And now with 2 football teams in LA traffic is going to be worse. Haha.

wargograw

@miktoxic said:

florida and az are the worse for driver inability. snowbirds who have their left blinker on for 10 miles and then make a right turn doing 2.5 mph.........or it's the old "i thought it was in reverse!" as they slam through the 7 eleven killing 10 kids.

Lol. In the words of Jerry Seinfeld, "that's a legal maneuver in Florida, it's called an eventual left."

mjp28

@boo-fagley said:

Texans and Floridians are the worst drivers.

Florida drivers will run you off the road. Many are likely from NY which is another state where you take your life in your hands.

Texas has 2 types of drivers - #1 The driver that only drives in the left hand passing lane 5 miles under the speed limit. All they see is open road ahead of them because there is a line of 50 cars cars bottled up behind who are trapped there and cannot cant get around. Oblivious to the surroundings. # 2 - The driver who has to drive 10 mph faster than the fastest car already on the road. You will know when you see one because he will find you and tailgate 5" from your bumper. If driver # 1 is blocking the left lane then your right lane just became the faster lane by default.

I remember my first few trips to Tex-ass in the late 1970s and early 1980s in particular I was told 1. 53% of all drivers had no insurance and 2. there is no zoning.

Both can screw up your day or life.

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

Did not know it was legal, but they are pretty chill about it... going faster, but not fast. And not weaving... just riding the stripes.

I had a Rocket bike pass me on I-20 driving home from the kiddo's place in August. Must have been doing 150... I never saw him coming. Barely saw him going. Passed me on the right a few car lengths after I'd completed a pass and maybe 10 lengths shy of starting another pass. Had I elected to tuck in, he'd have been in my back seat.

To do 100 anything in traffic is a suicide waiting to happen. Sooner or later some fool changes lanes without signaling and it's all over but the funeral. My son bought one this summer and I have been doing my very best to teach him defensive driving for motorcylists. Hard to transfer all my experience into usable words, but he seems to be getting it. I've drilled in "invisibility" and "escape routes" until the cows come in.

The Gipper

@boo-fagley said:

Im willing to wager that LA will get multiple Super Bowls because of the climate.

And that may in fact be what it was all about. Like someone said: image...and greed. I mean, face it.... IF the Chargers really felt they had to leave SD, they would likely have been better off becoming the San Antonio Chargers. But, Jeremiah Jackass would never want a team to intrude on what he thinks is HIS territory in San Antone (by the way...it is actually split between the Cowgirls and the DATs)

The Gipper

@texasag1969 said:

To do 100 anything in traffic is a suicide waiting to happen. Sooner or later some fool changes lanes without signaling and it's all over but the funeral. My son bought one this summer and I have been doing my very best to teach him defensive driving for motorcylists. Hard to transfer all my experience into usable words, but he seems to be getting it. I've drilled in "invisibility" and "escape routes" until the cows come in.

Imagine a guy doing 100+ in traffic.....and also having above a .30 BAC. I have seen that and worse in matters that have come before me.

1	New York City; New York	8,175,133	8,336,697	161,564
2	Los Angeles; California	3,792,621	3,857,799	65,178
3	Chicago; Illinois	2,695,598	2,714,856	19,258
4	Houston; Texas	2,099,451	2,160,821	61,370
5	Philadelphia; Pennsylvania	1,526,006	1,547,607	21,601
6	Phoenix; Arizona	1,445,632	1,488,750	43,118
7	San Antonio; Texas	1,327,407	1,382,951	55,544
8	San Diego; California	1,307,402	1,338,348	30,946
9	Dallas; Texas	1,197,816	1,241,162	43,346
10	San Jose; California	945,942	982,765	36,82