2018 picks, as it stands
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Welcome Aboard Jim-blow-Jones..But your out your damn mind
..This conversation should not ever happen till JT starts the conversation..JT has earned that much at least from this organization. https://imgur.com/XT7wINt
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Aw chit, another English Professor in a White lab-coat on a Laptop
..But this Mr. Jones brought flash cards..Read the last line in my profile & mix a stronger drink than umbrella drinks..Your in for a long ride with a bumpy start..But we are a equal opportunity internet Board with many opinions..So Good Luck out there Professor Jones..
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What's with this "he's earned xyz" stuff? The guy gets a salary. If he wants to be rewarded for loyalty then we should pay him more. But the team does what's best for the team.
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I'll go one step further...
I want Joe to retire a Brown never having played anywhere else... and then join our staff and coach the OL. Anyone who witnessed Mitchell Schwartz's rise knows the guy can coach.
It'd be great if he could retire with at least one AFCN Championship banner, if not an AFC banner, if not a ring...
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in 
...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in ...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
Fuck off newbie.
JT will retire as a Cleveland Brown.
Its bullshit to see players in their waning years play like a scrub for other teams: Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals. John Unitas with the Chargers. Joe Namath with the Rams. Now, Adrian Peterson with the Saints. etc.
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Not quite there yet, war... in part due to the premise, but just not enough data on what we have... or what is going to be in the draft and available when Day One.
Another Edge? CB? MLB? WR? All possible, maybe even probable needs, but I can't say for sure let alone in what order the need and talent will fall.
Could even be a RB in the mix... but I'll never admit that to Ag.
I'll be pissed if we have to take another d end. Hopefully Schobert fills MLB need. WR and RB sound good, especially if our defense is already a top 10 unit after this season.
My take is- if anyone deserves the right to retire as a Brown- it's Joe Thomas. Both Bitonio and\or (hopefully) Coleman can slide to LT when Joe hangs 'em up.
Screw the Moneyball approach in this case. Thomas could long ago have demanded a trade to get out of the Football Hell that's been the Browns since he was drafted and go to a winning team- but he didn't. HOF level performance & loyalty should be rewarded.
PS saw on the PD Joe needs 4 more snaps to make it to 10,000 straight. Let that one settle in for a minute. We're talking the Cal Ripken of Football.
Forget that. He knows it's a business.
I'm as big a Joe Thomas fan as anyone, but if someone offered a first round pick for him I'd be hard-pressed not to consider it. This is his 11th season. He's probably on borrowed time.
Agreed. Would probably like a little more than a first rounder alone but I'd be listening.
I'll be pissed if we have to take another d end. Hopefully Schobert fills MLB need. WR and RB sound good, especially if our defense is already a top 10 unit after this season.
Edge does not necessarily mean DE...
I could see a stud OLB pushing Kirk back inside where I'm sure he'd displace Joe.
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in ...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
Ah.... the Kenny Lofton gambit... Don't see it happening in the NFL. (Has it ever happened in the NFL?) Main reason is you have to fill that LT slot... and that means investment.
I'll admit to a loyalty factor when it comes to Joe, but first and foremost comes the performance hurdle... and right now Joe is clearing it with ease.
Right now our #1 priority is developing a QB. Might be Kizer... might be one of four or so college players... regardless Joe is a key factor in giving whoever that QB is the best chance to develop. I don't think I can make a stronger case that this.
And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in ...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
Fuck off newbie.
JT will retire as a Cleveland Brown.
Its bullshit to see players in their waning years play like a scrub for other teams: Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals. John Unitas with the Chargers. Joe Namath with the Rams. Now, Adrian Peterson with the Saints. etc.
Fuck off newbie.
JT will retire as a Cleveland Brown.
Its bullshit to see players in their waning years play like a scrub for other teams: Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals. John Unitas with the Chargers. Joe Namath with the Rams. Now, Adrian Peterson with the Saints. etc.
And AP is ruining that Brees run O if you watched the game. He's having to keep two vets and a rookie happy and it's killing the Brees passing game. And none of the 3 is happy in the three headed RB monster that was created.
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I'll be pissed if we have to take another d end. Hopefully Schobert fills MLB need. WR and RB sound good, especially if our defense is already a top 10 unit after this season.
Edge does not necessarily mean DE...
I could see a stud OLB pushing Kirk back inside where I'm sure he'd displace Joe.
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in ...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
Ah.... the Kenny Lofton gambit... Don't see it happening in the NFL. (Has it ever happened in the NFL?) Main reason is you have to fill that LT slot... and that means investment.
I'll admit to a loyalty factor when it comes to Joe, but first and foremost comes the performance hurdle... and right now Joe is clearing it with ease.
Right now our #1 priority is developing a QB. Might be Kizer... might be one of four or so college players... regardless Joe is a key factor in giving whoever that QB is the best chance to develop. I don't think I can make a stronger case that this.
And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
Thanks and BTW..Happy Birthday!! You celebrate with Dan Marino who turns 57 today.. but hey, the other Miami kid Kosar gave us some thrills..Enjoy Your You Day!! Thanks for so many great post, OL knowledge & always supporting our Team..Go Browns!!
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
I'll go one step further...
I want Joe to retire a Brown never having played anywhere else... and then join our staff and coach the OL. Anyone who witnessed Mitchell Schwartz's rise knows the guy can coach.
It'd be great if he could retire with at least one AFCN Championship banner, if not an AFC banner, if not a ring...
I'll go one step further...
I want Joe to retire a Brown never having played anywhere else... and then join our staff and coach the OL. Anyone who witnessed Mitchell Schwartz's rise knows the guy can coach.
It'd be great if he could retire with at least one AFCN Championship banner, if not an AFC banner, if not a ring...
EXACTLY. Joe Thomas inspires this entire football team. He MUST be here when they get that ring...or yeah, an AFC championship.
He isn't going anywhere, I don't see him wanting to go elsewhere. If you traded Joe Thomas, you'd yank the heart right out of this team, that is on the verge of doing some serious winning.
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And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
Thanks and BTW..Happy Birthday!! You celebrate with Dan Marino who turns 57 today.. but hey, the other Miami kid Kosar gave us some thrills..Enjoy Your You Day!! Thanks for so many great post, OL knowledge & always supporting our Team..Go Browns!!
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And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
Thanks and BTW..Happy Birthday!! You celebrate with Dan Marino who turns 57 today.. but hey, the other Miami kid Kosar gave us some thrills..Enjoy Your You Day!! Thanks for so many great post, OL knowledge & always supporting our Team..Go Browns!!
Thanks and BTW..Happy Birthday!! You celebrate with Dan Marino who turns 57 today.. hey but the other Miami Kosar gave us some thrills..Enjoy Your You Day!! Thanks for so many great post, OL knowledge & always supporting our Team..Go Browns!!
Ah-thanks for the reminder. Happy birthday Tour and now I can call my 73 y.o brother who shares this date with you as a birthday. I sent him a card with "Woody" from Toy Story on the outside and the inside it says something to the effect of "How does it feel to become a classic antique?"
Well?
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Thanks and BTW..Happy Birthday!! You celebrate with Dan Marino who turns 57 today.. hey but the other Miami Kosar gave us some thrills..Enjoy Your You Day!! Thanks for so many great post, OL knowledge & always supporting our Team..Go Browns!!
Ah-thanks for the reminder. Happy birthday Tour and now I can call my 73 y.o brother who shares this date with you as a birthday. I sent him a card with "Woody" from Toy Story on the outside and the inside it says something to the effect of "How does it feel to become a classic antique?"
Well?
Ah-thanks for the reminder. Happy birthday Tour and now I can call my 73 y.o brother who shares this date with you as a birthday. I sent him a card with "Woody" from Toy Story on the outside and the inside it says something to the effect of "How does it feel to become a classic antique?"
Well?
Woody? My erectile functionality is a bit personal for a football forum inquiry... don't you think?
Thanks for the well-wish nonetheless...
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Ah-thanks for the reminder. Happy birthday Tour and now I can call my 73 y.o brother who shares this date with you as a birthday. I sent him a card with "Woody" from Toy Story on the outside and the inside it says something to the effect of "How does it feel to become a classic antique?"
Well?
Woody? My erectile functionality is a bit personal for a football forum inquiry... don't you think?
Thanks for the well-wish nonetheless...
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What's with this "he's earned xyz" stuff? The guy gets a salary. If he wants to be rewarded for loyalty then we should pay him more. But the team does what's best for the team.
What's with this "he's earned xyz" stuff? The guy gets a salary. If he wants to be rewarded for loyalty then we should pay him more. But the team does what's best for the team.
As others have said, you trade Joe, what's your plan B at LT this year? Watch Kizer get killed?
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I'll be pissed if we have to take another d end. Hopefully Schobert fills MLB need. WR and RB sound good, especially if our defense is already a top 10 unit after this season.
Edge does not necessarily mean DE...
I could see a stud OLB pushing Kirk back inside where I'm sure he'd displace Joe.
You're a way more loyal fan than me.
I just care about getting some value for him before he packs it in ...only if they're out of the playoff picture by the trade deadline though.
How would you feel about getting the draft picks for him, then getting him back after the 2018 season (when he's a free agent) IF he's still got some juice left AND our new 1st round LT pick hasn't worked out? Realistically, after the 2018 season should be when the Browns are LEGIT contenders if all the young guys develop properly...
Ah.... the Kenny Lofton gambit... Don't see it happening in the NFL. (Has it ever happened in the NFL?) Main reason is you have to fill that LT slot... and that means investment.
I'll admit to a loyalty factor when it comes to Joe, but first and foremost comes the performance hurdle... and right now Joe is clearing it with ease.
Right now our #1 priority is developing a QB. Might be Kizer... might be one of four or so college players... regardless Joe is a key factor in giving whoever that QB is the best chance to develop. I don't think I can make a stronger case that this.
And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
And give gumby a break... the man has forgotten more football than most ever know... and he has not forgotten much. So just suck it up, buy a decoder ring (like the rest of us have) and enjoy...
This
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I can't think of a better place to put this but this Mason kid for Okie State.... starting to like him.
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I can't think of a better place to put this but this Mason kid for Okie State.... starting to like him.
I can't think of a better place to put this but this Mason kid for Okie State.... starting to like him.
Yeah, but Big 12 QBs... and vs. Pitt?
Just swapped to see Rosen... tho not sure I can handle Memphis' blue and white Bengals helmets...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yeah, but Big 12 QBs... and vs. Pitt?
Just swapped to see Rosen... tho not sure I can handle Memphis' blue and white Bengals helmets...
Fair points. It's not so much his performance as I see the fundamentals. Box counts, checking to runs, using a hard count to get blitzers to declare. Appears to actually work through what simple progressions that system allows.
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This is a test of voice recognition/ transcription software. Son of a bit(ch) it works! Sort of…
Apparently I need to teach it how to swear…
Edit: I wonder if gumby uses this??? LOL…
This is a test of voice recognition/ transcription software. Son of a bit(ch) it works! Sort of…
Apparently I need to teach it how to swear…
Edit: I wonder if gumby uses this??? LOL…
I'm gonna load mine up wit a translator and test it out before I go to Spain next month. Every now and again I forget a word I want to use in Spanish and it would be easier just to get it translated immediately. Then again locals seem to appreciate me asking for the correct word which is kind of rare for Americans to do apparently.
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