This Week in the AFC North... Revised,Balance of the Division Edition
-
the Bengals have not scored a TD in 2 games now to start the season. I'm not saying Dalton has ever been elite but that's gotta be a huge concern in Bengal land right now.
-
Even the one great catch by Green was in triple coverage and more often than not it's gonna be intercepted. And in the redzone he kept locked on Green in double coverage, never looking for a better alternative from the getgo. Looked like a rookie QB.
Even the one great catch by Green was in triple coverage and more often than not it's gonna be intercepted.
Watching Ben do it with Ant Brown(5'10).Seems like a weekly high point the ball play, With height or vertical jump? AJ(6'4",got us many times),Julio(6'3").Hopkins(6'1"),OBJ(5'11) in all shapes & sizes too..I know you like Kirk at 5'10", but whats your early thoughts of SMU-Courtland Sutton at 6'4"? another big name in top 25 is Calvin Ridley, that I have not seen..
-
Courtland is not a superfast WR like some of the others, so it depends on what you're looking for. Kirk is going to be more like some of those NE receivers that can get open using their quickness and run best ATC in the open field. Ridley is just another fine receiver out of Bama. I could live with either pick after we get our "Zeke".
Edit: Interesting that Walterfootball has us taking them this way as well (found after my comment)
-
the Bengals have not scored a TD in 2 games now to start the season. I'm not saying Dalton has ever been elite but that's gotta be a huge concern in Bengal land right now.
the Bengals have not scored a TD in 2 games now to start the season. I'm not saying Dalton has ever been elite but that's gotta be a huge concern in Bengal land right now.
Those last gasp passes in their last real possession were nowhere near their targets. Just when the situation called for aggressive, "nothing to lose" play, the ginger went conservative.
Not long to AJ time...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Courtland is not a superfast WR like some of the others, so it depends on what you're looking for. Kirk is going to be more like some of those NE receivers that can get open using their quickness and run best ATC in the open field. Ridley is just another fine receiver out of Bama. I could live with either pick after we get our "Zeke".
Edit: Interesting that Walterfootball has us taking them this way as well (found after my comment)
Ridley is just another fine receiver out of Bama.
Saw him in their opener and thought, "Cooper V2.0"... ten or twenty pounds lighter, but still growing.
-
HOU @ CIN (-6.5) Thu 09-14 7:25 PM
Prediction: HOU 27 CIN 13
FINAL: HOU 13 CIN 9 - W/W
Bit off in the finer points, but a win is a win...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sweet we could move to 2nd place in the division if we can beat the Ravens on Sunday.
Or...tied for first.....if they win....and the Vikings beat Pittspuke...which is highly possible.
-
ONE MAN'S OPINION FRIDAY EDITION - ORIGINAL BROWNS vs NEW BROWNS 2017 G1
There is not a single above average player at the skill positions. That’s true for Cleveland – and Baltimore. The Browns have the better offensive line, too, thanks to Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas and the additions of guard Kevin Zeitler and center J.C. Tretter. Baltimore’s retooled defense does look strong. Shutting out Cincinnati on the road opening week is impressive.
But the Ravens’ defense can’t carry such a weak offense when an inflated spread is involved like it is for this division matchup. Joe Flacco is working his way back from skipping preseason. He might be missing running back Danny Woodhead, who suffered a hamstring injury this past Sunday. The Ravens are 8-1 SU the past nine times hosting the Browns, but only 5-4 ATS. The Browns are improved from those sad sack past editions.
This is rookie DeShone Kizer’s first road game. He’s far more athletic than recent Cleveland QB disasters such as Brandon Weeden, Brady Quinn and Cody Kessler. Kizer also isn’t afraid to take shots downfield unlike previous Browns dink-and-dunk passers. Isaiah Crowell is the best runner on either team. Kizer can rely on Crowell to ensure the Ravens at least respects Cleveland’s ground attack.....So?
What do you mean so, take CLE +9 and run with it!
ONE MAN'S OPINION FRIDAY EDITION - ORIGINAL BROWNS vs NEW BROWNS 2017 G1
There is not a single above average player at the skill positions. That’s true for Cleveland – and Baltimore.
Well....I would certainly rate Flacco "above average" when compared to all the other QBs in the league.
The Browns have the better offensive line, too, thanks to Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas and the additions of guard Kevin Zeitler and center J.C. Tretter. Baltimore’s retooled defense does look strong. Shutting out Cincinnati on the road opening week is impressive.
Or not...given how piss poor Cincy's offense is. But...I guess any shutout has to be given credit.
But the Ravens’ defense can’t carry such a weak offense when an inflated spread is involved like it is for this division matchup. Joe Flacco is working his way back from skipping preseason. He might be missing running back Danny Woodhead, who suffered a hamstring injury this past Sunday. The Ravens are 8-1 SU the past nine times hosting the Browns, but only 5-4 ATS. The Browns are improved from those sad sack past editions.
This is rookie DeShone Kizer’s first road game. He’s far more athletic than recent Cleveland QB disasters such as Brandon Weeden, Brady Quinn and Cody Kessler. Kizer also isn’t afraid to take shots downfield unlike previous Browns dink-and-dunk passers. Isaiah Crowell is the best runner on either team. Kizer can rely on Crowell to ensure the Ravens at least respects Cleveland’s ground attack.....So?
What do you mean so, take CLE +9 and run with it!
+9? Yea, someone is smoking something. If you are anywhere near Vegas....put money on that.
-
Yup. Red rifle more like water gun. That throw on 4th down was to who exactly? Haha.
It looks like the Bungles are once again the Bungles. Not many QB's have the wits to throw the ball away on 4th down to avoid the INT. Marvin Lewis' picture is in the dictionary under "Deer-in-the-headlights."
Get these squirrels off of me -
Yup. Red rifle more like water gun. That throw on 4th down was to who exactly? Haha.
It looks like the Bungles are once again the Bungles. Not many QB's have the wits to throw the ball away on 4th down to avoid the INT. Marvin Lewis' picture is in the dictionary under "Deer-in-the-headlights."
-
the Bengals have not scored a TD in 2 games now to start the season. I'm not saying Dalton has ever been elite but that's gotta be a huge concern in Bengal land right now.
Those last gasp passes in their last real possession were nowhere near their targets. Just when the situation called for aggressive, "nothing to lose" play, the ginger went conservative.
Not long to AJ time...
Those last gasp passes in their last real possession were nowhere near their targets. Just when the situation called for aggressive, "nothing to lose" play, the ginger went conservative.
Not long to AJ time...
They may as well play McCarron and find out what they really have.. Ginger ain't the answer..
-
Yup. Red rifle more like water gun. That throw on 4th down was to who exactly? Haha.
It looks like the Bungles are once again the Bungles. Not many QB's have the wits to throw the ball away on 4th down to avoid the INT. Marvin Lewis' picture is in the dictionary under "Deer-in-the-headlights."
Marvin Lewis' picture is in the dictionary under "Deer-in-the-headlights."
He looked like the poster child for that last night for sure on multiple occasions from the end of the 1st half on.
-
Bengals Fire OC- Ken Zampese (I would have fired Andy the red-headed step-child) Zampese was the QB coach from 2003-15//2016-17 Zampese was OC..Huejax coached with Zampese with the Bungles in 2012-CB/ST coach//2013-RB coach, than Hue went OC in 14 & 15 with Bengals..So Hue you just may have a OC out there as of today?.Hue also have your student QB that needs to keep progressing forward..What Hue thinkin"?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Bengals Fire OC- Ken Zampese (I would have fired Andy the red-headed step-child) Zampese was the QB coach from 2003-15//2016-17 Zampese was OC..Huejax coached with Zampese with the Bungles in 2012-CB/ST coach//2013-RB coach, than Hue went OC in 14 & 15 with Bengals..So Hue you just may have a OC out there as of today?.Hue also have your student QB that needs to keep progressing forward..What Hue thinkin"?
-
HOU @ CIN (-6.5) Thu 09-14 7:25 PM
Prediction: HOU 27 CIN 13
FINAL: HOU 13 CIN 9 - W/W
Bit off in the finer points, but a win is a win...
HOU @ CIN (-6.5) Thu 09-14 7:25 PM
Prediction: HOU 27 CIN 13
FINAL: HOU 13 CIN 9 - W/W
Bit off in the finer points, but a win is a win...
All rightie then... let's see if we can build on this start...
MIN @ PTG (-7.0)
Here are the basic questions: Is a line that simply negates the Heinz Field advantage enough? Does 7.0 even negate the advantage? Let's take the 2nd question first. Quite simply seven points have not been enough... if the Steelers are right. And right now, they are not quite right.
Let's look at how Zimmer has fared by the confluence. As Cinci's DC he was 2-5. But those two wins were both low scoring, Defensive struggles... just what Zim the HC loves. And he's got a damn good D. Hmmm... Need a useless, totally inapplicable stat in case you are on the fence? I don't, but since I looked it up here it is... All-time the Vikings are 5-4 in Pittsburgh and 9-7 overall.
Three, key MN players are listed as "Questionable": Bradford, Barr and Rhodes. That gives me pause, but Q's usually play... and that's the word on Bradford. Plus PTG has three Q's of their own on top of their lone "Out", back-up OT Hawkins.
I like the Vikes and the points, but straight up? I think the deciding factor here is that the Vikes have found a ground game while the Steelers are still looking for theirs... in part due to a rusty Bell.
Prediction: MIN 20 PTG 17
CLE @ BLT (-9.0)
Speaking of low scoring... How low can you go? Pretty damn low... at least that's how I see it. But my biggest question is, will both Defenses score?
I don't like BLT's run game. And Flacco can't put the team on his back... literally. But with their D he doesn't have to. I'm afraid his dink and dunk with a big-ish play here and there to tilt the field, or set up a FG, will sadly be enough. Their D looks that good to me.
Offensively I think we get frustrated... not sure that's the way it has to be, but based on what I saw Week 1 that's what I am expecting. Our run game isn't there yet, and an apparent reluctance to have Kizer keep the occasional read-option isn't helping. (At least keep one early in each half to make the D honor the possibility.) Passing? Without a run game the PAP remains a non-factor. Plus there's the static pocket... It'd benefit Kizer by cutting the filed in half and making any throwaway legal. And it would help Tretter, who needs an angle to deal with a strong NT.
Only thing left is "The Big Question". Yes... both Ds will score.
Prediction: BLT 13 CLE 8
Were we to see either a kept read-option or a rollout, we'd be more even competitive. If we saw both, then I might happily lose my straight-up prediction...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Browns 18 ratbirds 13.
I just refuse to pick the Browns to lose. not to the ratbirds. get a grip.
-
Thanks for taking the mantle, Tour. This is our 12th day of being displaced Evacuees, as neither The Great Zomboni or his lovely assistant have power yet. But we are back in Naples and took up someone's kind offer of their home on the Beach ... and no major damage to our houses .. so we are thankful.
Had to charge the Crystal Ball all night after a week of being buried in the family trickster, and here is what it spat out:
Houston at Cincinnati, Thursday Night Football:
Sputtering Bungle offense causes embarrassing loss tobrookir QB at home. TEXANS 13 BUNGLES 9
Minnesota at Pittsburgh 1 PM
Steelers were lucky to get young Browns in Week one, but now thr sputtering has begun. VIKINGS 27 STEELERS 21
Cleveland at Baltimore 1 PM
Ratbirds not lucky to get Browns in Week two. Nassib makes an accordion out of Flacco's spine and Kizer throws 2 TD passes in first win. BROWNS 24 RAVENS 10
TGZ
-
So, by end of today, the Browns will sit atop the AFC north for the first time in a long time....(albiet tied)......
Stools will lose to the Vikes.......Minn 24 - Pittspuke 17
and the Ratbirds will go down flailing......Browns 20 - Balt 13
Book it!
So, by end of today, the Browns will sit atop the AFC north for the first time in a long time....(albiet tied)......
Book it!
Maybe best train "Book it" Ever..9-29-13 Beat Bengals in C-town,went to lot to get Tribe radio for play-in win at Minnesota Twins..Went back, after stay at sisters in Toledo to TNF 10-3-13 for Comeback on Bills after Hoyer blows knee & last of good Gordon..We go up a half game on Division..Yea that's a great "Booked It" Week..Lets use past wizard Date cards BROWNS-13 RAT-TERDS oh 9 or 10...LETS Go Browns!!
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login