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  • LondonBrown L Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    Shamelessly stolen from twitter 

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      A couple or so  observations:   

      A, It seems to me that the Browns LBs have done the best job so far...in preseason/vs. Pitt.   Wonder why they would have had such a hard time of it yesterday.

      B. If Britt was only 3rd worst on the team in PFF grade...who the hell was below him? Coleman maybe with his -0- catches in 5 targets? (would a broken hand have had to do with that?)

      C. Looks like Tretter may have rebounded from a so so performance vs. the Squibs.

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          W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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          Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

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            Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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            @wargograw said:

            Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

            That's the best physically & Health wise, T'sizzle Suggs has looked in 3 seasons..We can't go back & take Jack Conklin over C.Coleman..so wheres JT going with no back-up plan? No Where...

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              @wargograw said:

              Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

              That's the best physically & Health wise, T'sizzle Suggs has looked in 3 seasons..We can't go back & take Jack Conklin over C.Coleman..so wheres JT going with no back-up plan? No Where...

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              @gumby73 said:

              That's the best physically & Health wise, T'sizzle Suggs has looked in 3 seasons..We can't go back & take Jack Conklin over C.Coleman..so wheres JT going with no back-up plan? No Where...

              Didn't Pittsburgh get after him too? 

              Coleman and Johnson and the picks we get for the trade....

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                I believe JT was in the high 80's PFF score week 1?..PFF scores tells JT nothing/nor me when he/we already know his competition..Suggs earned JT's attention year one in league.. Per JT, that has not changed..Coleman/Johnson..HA!! that's not even close to Conklin in anybodies opinion..Can't believe the amount of true browns fans that would even phat-hum the idea of Trading JT now..What other great HOF LT you trading For? What playoff team late pick is worth JT? Your now in Njoku & Peppers Talent level..Go ahead take another swing at the JT pinata.. 

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                  Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                  TOP 5 GRADES:

                  CB Jason McCourty, 87.8 overall grade

                  CB Jamar Taylor, 86.5 overall grade

                  C JC Tretter, 83.4 overall grade

                  G Joel Bitonio, 82.7 overall grade

                  T Joe Thomas, 80.8 overall grade

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                    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                    LB CHRISTIAN KIRKSEY, 23.1 OVERALL, LB JAMIE COLLINS, 38.7 OVERALL AND LB JOE SCHOBERT, 40.7 OVERALL

                    While the Browns secondary actually played fairly solid, and their defensive line was up and down, it was the inside linebacker trio of Kirksey, Collins and Schobert that really struggled for the Browns in this game. Flacco picked on them nearly exclusively in the pass game, working his receiver and tight end matchups any chance he could against them. The three combined to allowed 17 catches on 17 targets for 159 yards and a touchdown. They each missed a tackle and really struggled to escape blocks at the second level in the run game. None of them finished with a run defense grade above 40.0 on the game.

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                      Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                      Regardless who the DC is, or who is playing LB or safety, the one constant besides losing for the Browns since '99 has been their inability to cover TEs.

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                        Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @wargograw said:

                        Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

                        Trolling I hope...

                        @gumby73 said:

                        I believe JT was in the high 80's PFF score week 1?..PFF scores tells JT nothing/nor me when he/we already know his competition..Suggs earned JT's attention year one in league..

                        Yes... 87 and change IIRC. And Suggs has always been Joe's toughest match up...

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                          LB CHRISTIAN KIRKSEY, 23.1 OVERALL, LB JAMIE COLLINS, 38.7 OVERALL AND LB JOE SCHOBERT, 40.7 OVERALL

                          While the Browns secondary actually played fairly solid, and their defensive line was up and down, it was the inside linebacker trio of Kirksey, Collins and Schobert that really struggled for the Browns in this game. Flacco picked on them nearly exclusively in the pass game, working his receiver and tight end matchups any chance he could against them. The three combined to allowed 17 catches on 17 targets for 159 yards and a touchdown. They each missed a tackle and really struggled to escape blocks at the second level in the run game. None of them finished with a run defense grade above 40.0 on the game.

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                          Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                          @canton-dawg said:

                          LB CHRISTIAN KIRKSEY, 23.1 OVERALL, LB JAMIE COLLINS, 38.7 OVERALL AND LB JOE SCHOBERT, 40.7 OVERALL

                          While the Browns secondary actually played fairly solid, and their defensive line was up and down, it was the inside linebacker trio of Kirksey, Collins and Schobert that really struggled for the Browns in this game. Flacco picked on them nearly exclusively in the pass game, working his receiver and tight end matchups any chance he could against them. The three combined to allowed 17 catches on 17 targets for 159 yards and a touchdown. They each missed a tackle and really struggled to escape blocks at the second level in the run game. None of them finished with a run defense grade above 40.0 on the game.

                          I was yelling "pick play" quite a bit yesterday. Lots of crossing patterns, and contact while the ball was in the air....no offensive interference on the Ratbirds at all per the refs.

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                            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                            Is Peppers even able to be graded?

                            I mean Williams has him lining up in another zip code relative to the line of scrimmage. If Peppers played that far off the ball in college he could probably be considered for a red-shirt season.

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                              McCourty might be a Pro Bowler on D

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                                Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                With the safeties playing that far off the LOS, that gave a lot of open real estate for the Rat's TE's to roam.

                                Their OC exploited that big time.

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                                  With the safeties playing that far off the LOS, that gave a lot of open real estate for the Rat's TE's to roam.

                                  Their OC exploited that big time.

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                                  @canton-dawg said:

                                  With the safeties playing that far off the LOS, that gave a lot of open real estate for the Rat's TE's to roam.

                                  Their OC exploited that big time.

                                  Color me stupid, but it seems like we start plays on D with 9 guys....and two guys watching the game from the end zone.

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                                    @canton-dawg said:

                                    With the safeties playing that far off the LOS, that gave a lot of open real estate for the Rat's TE's to roam.

                                    Their OC exploited that big time.

                                    Color me stupid, but it seems like we start plays on D with 9 guys....and two guys watching the game from the end zone.

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                                    @orion said:

                                    Color me stupid, but it seems like we start plays on D with 9 guys....and two guys watching the game from the end zone.

                                    Its like Williams thinks its 1935 and is expecting quick kicks before fourth down.

                                    You draft Peppers because he's a versatile playmaker and relegate him to being the goalie for soccer game being played by 5 year olds.. I'm almost surprised not to see Peppers kicking his mitt and picking dandelions like his name is Timmy Lupus.

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                                      @canton-dawg said:

                                      LB CHRISTIAN KIRKSEY, 23.1 OVERALL, LB JAMIE COLLINS, 38.7 OVERALL AND LB JOE SCHOBERT, 40.7 OVERALL

                                      While the Browns secondary actually played fairly solid, and their defensive line was up and down, it was the inside linebacker trio of Kirksey, Collins and Schobert that really struggled for the Browns in this game. Flacco picked on them nearly exclusively in the pass game, working his receiver and tight end matchups any chance he could against them. The three combined to allowed 17 catches on 17 targets for 159 yards and a touchdown. They each missed a tackle and really struggled to escape blocks at the second level in the run game. None of them finished with a run defense grade above 40.0 on the game.

                                      I was yelling "pick play" quite a bit yesterday. Lots of crossing patterns, and contact while the ball was in the air....no offensive interference on the Ratbirds at all per the refs.

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                                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @bob806 said:

                                      I was yelling "pick play" quite a bit yesterday. Lots of crossing patterns, and contact while the ball was in the air....no offensive interference on the Ratbirds at all per the refs.

                                      But they did Call Britt for Offensive PI..was it push off or Pick? can't remember?

                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Trolling I hope...

                                      Yes... 87 and change IIRC. And Suggs has always been Joe's toughest match up...

                                      if there is a article that says JT,Ive read it..He loves the Professional competition with Suggs.. with all the trash talking included..per a Baltimore paper article.. Suggs asked JT yesterday "what U teaching that Coleman Kid"JT-"Did you just call me The Karate Kid" They did a set of downs with Kata yelps included..I'll try to post it if this top will let me..    

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                                        @orion said:

                                        Color me stupid, but it seems like we start plays on D with 9 guys....and two guys watching the game from the end zone.

                                        Its like Williams thinks its 1935 and is expecting quick kicks before fourth down.

                                        You draft Peppers because he's a versatile playmaker and relegate him to being the goalie for soccer game being played by 5 year olds.. I'm almost surprised not to see Peppers kicking his mitt and picking dandelions like his name is Timmy Lupus.

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                                        @dutch-oven said:

                                        You draft Peppers because he's a versatile playmaker and relegate him to being the goalie for soccer game being played by 5 year olds.

                                        He was known for playing closer to the LOS than a lot of safeties.  A big hitter.  So what do we do?  We play him in punt formation.

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                                          @wargograw said:

                                          Slowdown year for Joe T. How long do y'all wanna do this loyalty bit again?

                                          Trolling I hope...

                                          @gumby73 said:

                                          I believe JT was in the high 80's PFF score week 1?..PFF scores tells JT nothing/nor me when he/we already know his competition..Suggs earned JT's attention year one in league..

                                          Yes... 87 and change IIRC. And Suggs has always been Joe's toughest match up...

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                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Trolling I hope...

                                          Not trolling. Let's ignore the validity of him slowing down and take it as a hypothetical. What if he's absolutely terrible this year? Would you guys still not take a first and change for him? 

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