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  • DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      @calfoxwc said:

      you might like chocolate fudge with a little black walnut in it, too, but what does that have to do with the subject,

      Deflecter Guy?

      All the things that threatened the American Indian way of life as the "invaders" came by wagon, horse and eventually rail until that way of life finally disappeared altogether. It's basically what you and London are talking about when it comes to the lives of cultures being threatened by "invasions" from another world.

      I ordered a book for Xmas entitled "1491", all about the new world life before Columbus lands in 1492, changing everything forever. It's an age old story.

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      @texasag1969 said:

      All the things that threatened the American Indian way of life as the "invaders" came by wagon, horse and eventually rail until that way of life finally disappeared altogether. It's basically what you and London are talking about when it comes to the lives of cultures being threatened by "invasions" from another world.

      I ordered a book for Xmas entitled "1491", all about the new world life before Columbus lands in 1492, changing everything forever. It's an age old story.

         that's a huge stretch. The American Indians were certainly treated poorly, and some treated the immigrants unfairly, both had serious violence and bigotry going. But there were no national laws, no country. There wasn't a global progressive movement..the settlers didn't come to America to undermine who the Indians were. They came to get away from oppression, etc. They still do.    We have floods of illegals, and legals even, coming here because they hate us. They want to undermine who we are as a country. Back in the American Indians day, they didn't HAVE a country, they had areas where it was deemed their land, but depending on the tribes, they hated other tribes.

         The narrative that the American Indians were a collective in what is now America, and were happy until those nasty white folks came over, and then they became warlike is nonsense. It just isn't true. Some American Indian tribes plundered, murdered, fought each other. Enter white settlers exploring a new land, and terrible crimes going on on both sides...it was a disaster. No deliberate undermining of American Indian culture when settlers came over... no peaceful continental peaceful Indian collective... nope. I hope your 1492 book wasn't written by Michael Moore or Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.........

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          @texasag1969 said:

          All the things that threatened the American Indian way of life as the "invaders" came by wagon, horse and eventually rail until that way of life finally disappeared altogether. It's basically what you and London are talking about when it comes to the lives of cultures being threatened by "invasions" from another world.

          I ordered a book for Xmas entitled "1491", all about the new world life before Columbus lands in 1492, changing everything forever. It's an age old story.

             that's a huge stretch. The American Indians were certainly treated poorly, and some treated the immigrants unfairly, both had serious violence and bigotry going. But there were no national laws, no country. There wasn't a global progressive movement..the settlers didn't come to America to undermine who the Indians were. They came to get away from oppression, etc. They still do.    We have floods of illegals, and legals even, coming here because they hate us. They want to undermine who we are as a country. Back in the American Indians day, they didn't HAVE a country, they had areas where it was deemed their land, but depending on the tribes, they hated other tribes.

             The narrative that the American Indians were a collective in what is now America, and were happy until those nasty white folks came over, and then they became warlike is nonsense. It just isn't true. Some American Indian tribes plundered, murdered, fought each other. Enter white settlers exploring a new land, and terrible crimes going on on both sides...it was a disaster. No deliberate undermining of American Indian culture when settlers came over... no peaceful continental peaceful Indian collective... nope. I hope your 1492 book wasn't written by Michael Moore or Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.........

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          @calfoxwc said:

             that's a huge stretch. The American Indians were certainly treated poorly, and some treated the immigrants unfairly, both had serious violence and bigotry going. But there were no national laws, no country. There wasn't a global progressive movement..the settlers didn't come to America to undermine who the Indians were. They came to get away from oppression, etc. They still do.    We have floods of illegals, and legals even, coming here because they hate us. They want to undermine who we are as a country. Back in the American Indians day, they didn't HAVE a country, they had areas where it was deemed their land, but depending on the tribes, they hated other tribes.

             The narrative that the American Indians were a collective in what is now America, and were happy until those nasty white folks came over, and then they became warlike is nonsense. It just isn't true. Some American Indian tribes plundered, murdered, fought each other. Enter white settlers exploring a new land, and terrible crimes going on on both sides...it was a disaster. No deliberate undermining of American Indian culture when settlers came over... no peaceful continental peaceful Indian collective... nope. I hope your 1492 book wasn't written by Michael Moore or Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.........

          1491 is not just about USA America, but the whole new world. And no deliberate undermining? The Aztex and Incas say hello. Never said any of them were a peaceful collective or not warlike. Neither does history. But what is history is the repetition of the decline of cultures when inundated by other cultures, which is really the context from which you were speaking. I think we are in actual agreement about that. Right now the West is being inundated in many different ways. Can we survive it and adjust to it is the real question. The fact is it is happening. I don't want to see us end up like the Aztecs and Incas, with very little left of the old ways. Got to be a way of dealing with it without losing everything in the process.

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            Well in the case of bacteria the cure was Penicillin or the death of the body. Nothing lasts forever.

            In three or four hundred years I can't imagine the United States of America surviving as we know it.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              Trump's family will still reign in 300-400 years.  MAGA.

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                Trump's family will still reign in 300-400 years.  MAGA.

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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Trump's family will still reign in 300-400 years.  MAGA.

                So he IS King!!😁

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  Image result for King Trump pic

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                    Image result for King Trump pic

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                    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Image result for King Trump pic

                    Holy See-and Pope too!🙄

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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