Next four games
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@boo-fagley said:
A lot of these HCs fail before they succeed.
Pete Carrol
Shanahan
Coughlin
Marty was a damn good coach despite not going all the way.
Kubiak
Your point being? What...Rex should have another chance?
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My guess is if Hue went that the HC would be Greg Williams.
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@boo-fagley said:
Why not?
Hopefully he has learned from his mistakes.
how did that work out in Buffalo?
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Colts, Jets, Bengals, Texans
How many will we win? They're all winnable.
Four defeats there and I think Hue could be toast.
Colts, Jets, Bengals, Texans
How many will we win? They're all winnable.
Four defeats there and I think Hue could be toast.
All four are winnable if the self-inflicted wounds are kept to a minimum, but after that the schedule is brutal. However, I think that one more win after mid-season is possible if they gain some momentum and confidence with a string of wins.
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@boo-fagley said:
Rex took the Jets to consecutive AFC Championship games. Went into Foxboro, Mass in the post season and took down the Patriots.
Rex never had a good QB in NY or Buffalo.
Rex took an ascending team in NY, road it to a crest then put it into a nosedive bouncing once before then piloting it straight into the ground.
He took an ascending team in Buffalo and immediately turned it around. No QB? Odd in that case that the Buffalo brass did not give him more time. Unless you take into account that he's a self-promoting asshole of a head coaching cancer... just like his daddy.
Can he coach D? Yup... just like his daddy. Two great examples of the Peter Principle...
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@boo-fagley said:
A lot of these HCs fail before they succeed.
Also true? A lot of HCs fail and then fail again.
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I can't think of anyone that would be a worse match with the youngest team in the NFL than Jon Gruden. Dude hated young players.
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I can't think of anyone that would be a worse match with the youngest team in the NFL than Jon Gruden. Dude hated young players.
I can't think of anyone that would be a worse match with the youngest team in the NFL than Jon Gruden. Dude hated young players.
Yeah but they're GRINDERS, man! I love it, man! Spider 2, Y-banana, man!!!
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@boo-fagley said:
OK
Belichick failed in Cleveland
Reid failed in Philadelphia
Carrol failed in NE and in NYJ
Jack Del Rio failed in Jacksonville
Coughlin failed in Jacksonville
Reid failed in Philly? Didn't he take that team to like 4 NFC conf. title games?
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I agree and I'm sure Hue the OC would too but Hue the HC seems a bit lost. For obvious reasons he's loathe to give up the play calling but he's going to hang himself if he doesn't get some help, he's trying to do too much.
If he keeps going this way. We will go 2-14. And he will get fired.
Anyone who thinks he's safe, no matter what, is diluted. No coach can be that bad and keep his job
If he keeps going this way. We will go 2-14. And he will get fired.
Anyone who thinks he's safe, no matter what, is diluted. No coach can be that bad and keep his job
I agree, It's not like Haslam has shown a great deal of patience in the past.
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@boo-fagley said:
He was asked to leave.
Do YOU personally, honestly think he was a failure?
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@boo-fagley said:
He was asked to leave.
Nearly every coach in the history of the NFL is asked to leave at some point.
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@boo-fagley said:
Yes, the talent that he had produced little to nothing. The Eagles were one of the top drafting teams in the NFL.
When Ried finally did get over the hump and make it to a Super Bowl. His QB was huddling up with 46 seconds remaining down by a FG to tie. It took the Eagles 23 seconds to run the next play. Terrible clock management and coaching. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200502060nwe.htm#all_pbp
Well, then you're an idiot.
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@boo-fagley said:
Well, youve been an idiot long enough to know.
Well, I have dealt with idiots long enough to know anyway.
How about this: take a poll.....see how many people agree with you that Andy Reid's tenure as HC in Philly was a failure.
By your way of thinking, Marty Schottenheimer's coaching career is a failure. Dan Reeves, Chuck Knox, Marv Levy, Bud Grant, George Allen etc. etc. etc. must have all also been failures as head coaches.
This is what being a spoiled chowderhead gets you. Just because BB has been successful, you think anyone that has not measured up to that is a failure.
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@boo-fagley said:
Take a poll. I dont care. Reid was asked to pack his bags. Thats not success. Every team is spending millions to bring a Lombardi home and not just have a nice season. In this regard Ghoolie is correct. Pittsburgh excepts no less than a world championship every season. Great teams like the Celtics, Yankees and Canadians were the exact same way.
Tom Landry then was not succesful. Jimmy Johnson in Dallas was not successful. Don Shula was not successful in Miami or Baltimore since they were all asked to pack their bags and leave the team.
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@boo-fagley said:
They always say hang around with dogs and get fleas.
Your customers have rubbed off on you.
Take a poll. I dont care. Reid was asked to pack his bags. Thats not success. Every team is spending millions to bring a Lombardi home and not just have a nice season. In this regard Ghoolie is correct. Pittsburgh excepts no less than a world championship every season. Great teams like the Celtics, Yankees and Canadians were the exact same way.
Paul Brown was asked to pack his bags. Tom Landry was asked to pack his bags. Bill Belichick was asked to pack his bags. Lots of successful coaches were asked to pack their bags. Only a dumbass would say that you have to have won multiple titles, plus be allowed to retire gracefully to be a successful coach. If that is the case....then there have been only the number of successful coaches in the history of the NFL that you can count on one hand.
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@boo-fagley said:
You can relate to them thats why.
Well, I have represented a number of mentally ill in my career. Do you need to hire me? As you fit the bill to a T, clearly.
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@boo-fagley said:
They won championships. So, no.
Again, is that the SOLE qualifier? You have to have won championships to be considered successful? What about all the coaches that have won titles that were in fact dismissed?
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@boo-fagley said:
- Belichick failed in Cleveland
- Reid failed in Philadelphia
- Carrol failed in NE and in NYJ
- Jack Del Rio failed in Jacksonville
- Coughlin failed in Jacksonville
First, hard to see what your "success" criteria is.
- No... his methodical rebuild was paying off when it was undone by his owner.
- No... failures don't keep their job for over a decade.
- Yes, spectacularly with the Jets. Modestly with the Pats.
- Yes... very erratic record
- No... tied for fastest to take an expansion team to the Playoffs.
@boo-fagley said:
Debatable...
If it wasn't, then we wouldn't be debating.
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