Paxton Lynch a bust?
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@boo-fagley said:
HOF QB Eli Manning is a bust.
Sacked 5 times last night.
His LT is the bust. Looked like an Erving carbon copy.
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@boo-fagley said:
HOF QB Eli Manning is a bust.
Sacked 5 times last night.
His LT is the bust. Looked like an Erving carbon copy.
His LT is the bust. Looked like an Erving carbon copy.
yeah, darn those "dime a dozen offensive lineman fatasses"
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New York just doesn't have any playmakers, clearly.
-Ghoolie
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What I don't get is the random article about Kordell Stewart being or not being gay. Did I miss a correlation somewhere? I know I'm new to the board but it reminds me of having conversations with my grandmother who has dementia.
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What I don't get is the random article about Kordell Stewart being or not being gay. Did I miss a correlation somewhere? I know I'm new to the board but it reminds me of having conversations with my grandmother who has dementia.
it reminds me of having conversations with my grandmother who has dementia.
You've landed at the right nursing home.
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Why do we need a thread on him? Just to feed the monster:
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I'm told Paxton holds onto the ball too long. Can anyone else confirm that?
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He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
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He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
Elway drafted Osweiler....so let's not go off on how great a talent evaluator of QBs Elway may be. I mean, right now, his QB is a 7th rounder that they have been trying to replace.
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Now I hear tell Paxton has a bad windup. Any truth to this rumor?
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Now I hear tell Paxton has a bad windup. Any truth to this rumor?
It's elongated... always has been. Common issue with extra-tall QBs. But in his case a lot of the problem is how low he holds the ball... about mid numbers instead of sternum.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's elongated... always has been. Common issue with extra-tall QBs. But in his case a lot of the problem is how low he holds the ball... about mid numbers instead of sternum.
Mhmm Mhmm ( I pray you're catching on)
So would this lead you to believe he holds onto the ball perhaps a bit too long then?
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lol... I am now....
As to your question... I put "holding onto" in a bit different light.
Kizer is holding onto the ball, but has a quicker release if and when he decides to cut it loose. His two-handed training at sternum level did worlds for his release. Before he was holding it low in one hand, then taking it lower, down and around to cock it for launch.
Lynch sometimes holds onto it as well, but he starts lower and takes it back at that level to get it around and up to cock it. Shorter path than old, bad Kizer, but longer than new and improved Kizer. I'd guesstimate Lynch's release is ~0.2 seconds longer than good Kizer's
That said Kizer's reverting a little. As soon as he starts running, be it around in the pocket or out of the pocket, he goes one-handed. This opposed to the two-handed ready position he holds when sliding in the pocket. Not sure it was determinative, but this likely contributed to his being strip-sacked by Suggs. And I haven't looked closely, but I suspect it played a role in the late INT he threw after escaping right and throwing down the near sideline.
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Kizer sometimes holds onto the ball down around his cock? Tour, such language! It's a good thing football isn't homoerotic at all. No purple! Also, no butt slaps.
I hope he'll learn to evade the rush while keeping both hands on the ball, but that kind of muscle memory will take more than 120 minutes of gametime to iron out.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
Ghoolie, will you ever admit you've been wrong before?
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He will be in the NFL long after Kizer is gone. When Elway says Lynch is a bust, THEN he's a bust. Elway is still working with him? That's a far cry from working with Hue. Elway is a lock for the HOF as an owner. Nobody in the history of the Cleveland Browns has the football accomplishments of John Elway. His opinion is the one that matters. But hey, go ahead and knock yourselves out with Internet blogger bullshit.
Just remember, you jackoffs thought the new OL, Greg Williams, Hue, Coleman, Garrett, De-pud-duster and Sashi were bringing success to Cleveland. Seriously, worry about all the busts I pointed out to you on the Browns, and don't worry about Lynch. The guy will be fine.
Ghoolie, will you ever admit you've been wrong before?
Ghoolie, will you ever admit you've been wrong before?
I have, absolutely, on the rare occasion that it happens. Unlike 95% of the posters here, I show up after the game to post, no matter what happens. It is the majority of the posters here that you should direct your question to, because there are many, many more examples of my being dead on and the majority here being dead wrong, than there are of me being wrong.
Paxton Lynch is not a bust. He hasn't even had the opportunity to start yet. Not beating out Trevor Spermian is not an indication of anything other than Elway and company aren't ready to give him the reins. Let me ask you this.......do you consider Ernie Davis a bust? He never got to play. I haven't called Kizer a bust, because he was pure shit to begin with. He is a great physical specimen, and in that, he could prove me wrong. If he does, and I hope he does, I will be the first one to admit it.
Case in point, for several sound reasons, I think the Colts will beat the Browns Sunday. If they do, this place will be a ghost town and very few will come in and say, Ghoolie was right. That phrase is so distasteful to people on this board that posters make up pretend shit, fake stats and meaningless facts to defend being wrong. "Yeah, Ghoolie was right, BUT BUT BUT..............not because of why he said.
Just a small cross-sectional recap...............
- Rich and I guaranteed the Browns woudl regret not taking Ben.
- I wanted Petersen, Julio Jones, and the list goes on...the posters here assured me that these guys didn't fit our style. (LMAO, 1 - 17 style)
- I called for Crennell and Sewage to be fired in the first half of their first preseason game.
- I called Coleman a bad (waste) of a pick. FOund him to be too soft, effeminate, and physically impotent for the NFL. Behold where he is.
- I called Garrett a total flush of a #1 #1 pick.....and where is he right now?
- I called Kizer black Tarkenton, a run-first QB who is a cockeyed passer, a dimwit who holds the ball too long, and still predict that he will indeed get hurt because he is so easy to sack.
- I predicted the high priced OL would fare no better than last years. So far? We cant run for shit, and we lead the pack in sacks allowed.
- I predicted that Hue would fuck himself with a QB quagmire, unless Kizer gels fast, Hue and the FO will be exposed as having squandered a lot of premium picks and not having a single QB prospect that can be part of this "rebuild" nonsense.
- Hue WILL be fired, you can bet on it.
When Lynch gets a verdict, THEN we can talk about him. However, for now, just like Tom Brady on the bench for Bledsoe, Young for Montana, Sipe for Phipps, there is no verdict on Lynch. You blowjobs don't get to decide what the time limit is up for calling a guy a bust. When he is released? Then we can talk. As of now, he is a viable QB prospect, and he surely is better than Kizer based on NFL wins and losses.
Let's see what the talk is here after the Browns get kicked in the nuts Sunday. I will be here to rub it in, or to eat crow.
I think your issue is not understanding that the reason I don't admit to being wrong, is because I seldom, if ever am. So of course there is no record of me admitting I was wrong. I am simply not wrong that often.
Bet the Colts.
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Ghoolie, will you ever admit you've been wrong before?
I have, absolutely, on the rare occasion that it happens. Unlike 95% of the posters here, I show up after the game to post, no matter what happens. It is the majority of the posters here that you should direct your question to, because there are many, many more examples of my being dead on and the majority here being dead wrong, than there are of me being wrong.
Paxton Lynch is not a bust. He hasn't even had the opportunity to start yet. Not beating out Trevor Spermian is not an indication of anything other than Elway and company aren't ready to give him the reins. Let me ask you this.......do you consider Ernie Davis a bust? He never got to play. I haven't called Kizer a bust, because he was pure shit to begin with. He is a great physical specimen, and in that, he could prove me wrong. If he does, and I hope he does, I will be the first one to admit it.
Case in point, for several sound reasons, I think the Colts will beat the Browns Sunday. If they do, this place will be a ghost town and very few will come in and say, Ghoolie was right. That phrase is so distasteful to people on this board that posters make up pretend shit, fake stats and meaningless facts to defend being wrong. "Yeah, Ghoolie was right, BUT BUT BUT..............not because of why he said.
Just a small cross-sectional recap...............
- Rich and I guaranteed the Browns woudl regret not taking Ben.
- I wanted Petersen, Julio Jones, and the list goes on...the posters here assured me that these guys didn't fit our style. (LMAO, 1 - 17 style)
- I called for Crennell and Sewage to be fired in the first half of their first preseason game.
- I called Coleman a bad (waste) of a pick. FOund him to be too soft, effeminate, and physically impotent for the NFL. Behold where he is.
- I called Garrett a total flush of a #1 #1 pick.....and where is he right now?
- I called Kizer black Tarkenton, a run-first QB who is a cockeyed passer, a dimwit who holds the ball too long, and still predict that he will indeed get hurt because he is so easy to sack.
- I predicted the high priced OL would fare no better than last years. So far? We cant run for shit, and we lead the pack in sacks allowed.
- I predicted that Hue would fuck himself with a QB quagmire, unless Kizer gels fast, Hue and the FO will be exposed as having squandered a lot of premium picks and not having a single QB prospect that can be part of this "rebuild" nonsense.
- Hue WILL be fired, you can bet on it.
When Lynch gets a verdict, THEN we can talk about him. However, for now, just like Tom Brady on the bench for Bledsoe, Young for Montana, Sipe for Phipps, there is no verdict on Lynch. You blowjobs don't get to decide what the time limit is up for calling a guy a bust. When he is released? Then we can talk. As of now, he is a viable QB prospect, and he surely is better than Kizer based on NFL wins and losses.
Let's see what the talk is here after the Browns get kicked in the nuts Sunday. I will be here to rub it in, or to eat crow.
I think your issue is not understanding that the reason I don't admit to being wrong, is because I seldom, if ever am. So of course there is no record of me admitting I was wrong. I am simply not wrong that often.
Bet the Colts.
I have, absolutely, on the rare occasion that it happens. Unlike 95% of the posters here, I show up after the game to post, no matter what happens. It is the majority of the posters here that you should direct your question to, because there are many, many more examples of my being dead on and the majority here being dead wrong, than there are of me being wrong.
Paxton Lynch is not a bust. He hasn't even had the opportunity to start yet. Not beating out Trevor Spermian is not an indication of anything other than Elway and company aren't ready to give him the reins. Let me ask you this.......do you consider Ernie Davis a bust? He never got to play. I haven't called Kizer a bust, because he was pure shit to begin with. He is a great physical specimen, and in that, he could prove me wrong. If he does, and I hope he does, I will be the first one to admit it.
Case in point, for several sound reasons, I think the Colts will beat the Browns Sunday. If they do, this place will be a ghost town and very few will come in and say, Ghoolie was right. That phrase is so distasteful to people on this board that posters make up pretend shit, fake stats and meaningless facts to defend being wrong. "Yeah, Ghoolie was right, BUT BUT BUT..............not because of why he said.
Just a small cross-sectional recap...............
- Rich and I guaranteed the Browns woudl regret not taking Ben.
- I wanted Petersen, Julio Jones, and the list goes on...the posters here assured me that these guys didn't fit our style. (LMAO, 1 - 17 style)
- I called for Crennell and Sewage to be fired in the first half of their first preseason game.
- I called Coleman a bad (waste) of a pick. FOund him to be too soft, effeminate, and physically impotent for the NFL. Behold where he is.
- I called Garrett a total flush of a #1 #1 pick.....and where is he right now?
- I called Kizer black Tarkenton, a run-first QB who is a cockeyed passer, a dimwit who holds the ball too long, and still predict that he will indeed get hurt because he is so easy to sack.
- I predicted the high priced OL would fare no better than last years. So far? We cant run for shit, and we lead the pack in sacks allowed.
- I predicted that Hue would fuck himself with a QB quagmire, unless Kizer gels fast, Hue and the FO will be exposed as having squandered a lot of premium picks and not having a single QB prospect that can be part of this "rebuild" nonsense.
- Hue WILL be fired, you can bet on it.
When Lynch gets a verdict, THEN we can talk about him. However, for now, just like Tom Brady on the bench for Bledsoe, Young for Montana, Sipe for Phipps, there is no verdict on Lynch. You blowjobs don't get to decide what the time limit is up for calling a guy a bust. When he is released? Then we can talk. As of now, he is a viable QB prospect, and he surely is better than Kizer based on NFL wins and losses.
Let's see what the talk is here after the Browns get kicked in the nuts Sunday. I will be here to rub it in, or to eat crow.
I think your issue is not understanding that the reason I don't admit to being wrong, is because I seldom, if ever am. So of course there is no record of me admitting I was wrong. I am simply not wrong that often.
Bet the Colts.
Luck isn't playing, and Hue has massive pressure to win. I think the Browns will pull it off, but it'll obviously be close.
Also, I'm one of the first to recognize and give you credit when you're right, But I am betting the Browns beat the Colts.
When the Colts lose, I want you to admit you made the wrong prediction.
And i'm not saying Paxton sucks, just that he's not good enough to beat out Trevor.
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Kizer sometimes holds onto the ball down around his cock? Tour, such language! It's a good thing football isn't homoerotic at all. No purple! Also, no butt slaps.
I hope he'll learn to evade the rush while keeping both hands on the ball, but that kind of muscle memory will take more than 120 minutes of gametime to iron out.
I hope he'll learn to evade the rush while keeping both hands on the ball, but that kind of muscle memory will take more than 120 minutes of gametime to iron out.
Completely agree... actually impressed me when the workout vids of his improved technique were confirmed by his TC work and appearances in three Preseason games plus Week 1.
But that in turn set me up for the disappointment of his Game 2 regression. It's not as if he's the only NFL starter that does this... even a couple of great ones do it as well. The difference is they are great.
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I just superglued the lock on Ghoolie's ignore status.
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