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  • @adoug319 said:

    Whoever gets Colt McCoy is going to luck out. Dude is unbelievable.

    Been doubted his whole life at every stage, keeps a list of things people say he can't do, and his life revolves around proving people wrong. The most competitive dude I've ever seen.

    @200lbmumford said:

    Great minds think barely alike !!

  • @westside-steve said:

    Yes. That was before anybody thought we may need to be drafting a quarterback in 2018. 😉

    ... except maybe the OP... 😮

    @tour2ma said:

    ... except maybe the OP... 😮

    I'm always looking ;P. Just so happens to be the browns biggest need... again...

  • @200lbmumford said:

    Great minds think barely alike !!

    @the-gipper said:

    Great minds think barely alike !!

    Or warped.  I was going to add in the Bama part with McCoy too, but he got hurt and only played for a few minutes.

  • @tour2ma said:

    ... except maybe the OP... 😮

    Okay then you are sold and even if by some chance we are able to draft Sam Darnold (and he does nothing to discourage the enthusiasm before the draft) you would not do it?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Okay then you are sold and even if by some chance we are able to draft Sam Darnold (and he does nothing to discourage the enthusiasm before the draft) you would not do it?

    As of right now? Based upon what I have seen of Darnold? No... I like at least two other QBs better... but it's early yet. There are two I've not seen at all.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    I'm always looking ;P. Just so happens to be the browns biggest need... again...

    I may not have shared my old stance since you arrived here... It goes like this...

    You always have to be looking for your next QB... it is simply a matter of how hard you look.

    Clearly we have been in the "look really hard" category... and still may be.

  • @adoug319 said:

    Whoever gets Baker Mayfield  Johnny Manziel is going to luck out. Dude is unbelievable.

    Been doubted his whole life at every stage, keeps a list of things people say he can't do, and his life revolves around proving people wrong. The most competitive dude I've ever seen.

    I really believe Oklahoma  Texas A&M will beat Alabama in the national championship this year.

    Whoever takes a flyer on him will get a great one

    Yes, where have we heard this before.

    @the-gipper said:

    Yes, where have we heard this before.

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Yes, where have we heard this before.

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield.

    @adoug319 said:

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel = Baker Mayfield.

    What? As they say  FIFY

    Even if it wasn't FIFY....Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield= Brandon Weeden.

    There is still something missing:  NFL caliber talent.

  • @adoug319 said:

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel = Baker Mayfield.

    What? As they say  FIFY

    Even if it wasn't FIFY....Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield= Brandon Weeden.

    There is still something missing:  NFL caliber talent.

    @the-gipper said:

    What? As they say  FIFY

    Even if it wasn't FIFY....Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield= Brandon Weeden.

    There is still something missing:  NFL caliber talent.

    LOL, what fire and competitiveness did Brandon Weeden have? Dude wasn't a warrior, it was easy to tell on and off the field.

    And If Baker Mayfield doesn't have NFL caliber talent, then neither did Russell Wilson.

    See Below:

    IMG_2420.PNG

  • @the-gipper said:

    What? As they say  FIFY

    Even if it wasn't FIFY....Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield= Brandon Weeden.

    There is still something missing:  NFL caliber talent.

    LOL, what fire and competitiveness did Brandon Weeden have? Dude wasn't a warrior, it was easy to tell on and off the field.

    And If Baker Mayfield doesn't have NFL caliber talent, then neither did Russell Wilson.

    See Below:

    IMG_2420.PNG

    @adoug319 said:

    LOL, what fire and competitiveness did Brandon Weeden have? Dude wasn't a warrior, it was easy to tell on and off the field.

    And If Baker Mayfield doesn't have NFL caliber talent, then neither did Russell Wilson.

    See Below:

    IMG_2420.PNG

    I don't think anyone can equate a college QB with a successful NFL QB.  Tim Tebow lovers thought he would be the rage of the NFL...Manzealots did too....

    1. Kellen Moore Boise St.  50-3

    1. Colt McCoy, 45-8, 2006-2009, Texas
    2. Andy Dalton, 42-7, 2007-2010, TCU
    3. David Green, 42-10, 2001-2004, Georgia
    4. Peyton Manning, 39-6, 1994-1997, Tennessee
    5. Ken Dorsey, 38-2, 2000-2002, Miami
    6. Rick Leach, 38-8, 1975-1978, Notre Dame
    7. Matt Leinart, 37-2, 2003-2005, USC
    8. John Rauch, 36-8, 1945-1948, Georgia
    9. Dan Lefevour, 36-15, 2006-2009, Central Michigan
    10. Chuck Ealey, 35-0, 1969-1971, Toledo
    11. Chad Pennington, 35-4, 1997-1999, Marshall
    12. Jay Barker, 35-5, 1991-1994, Alabama
    13. Tim Tebow, 35-6, 2006-2009, Florida
    14. Eric Crouch, 35-7, 1998-2001, Nebraska
    15. Chuck Long, 35-13, 1982-1985, Iowa

    You got about 2.5 good NFL QBs from that list.
     

  • Whoever gets Baker Mayfield is going to luck out. Dude is unbelievable.

    Been doubted his whole life at every stage, keeps a list of things people say he can't do, and his life revolves around proving people wrong. The most competitive dude I've ever seen.

    I really believe Oklahoma will beat Alabama in the national championship this year.

    Whoever takes a flyer on him will get a great one

    Edit: Doesn't mean I want us to give up on Kizer. Let's give Kizer at least 2 years.

    @adoug319 said:

    Whoever gets Baker Mayfield is going to luck out. Dude is unbelievable.

    Been doubted his whole life at every stage, keeps a list of things people say he can't do, and his life revolves around proving people wrong. The most competitive dude I've ever seen.

    I really believe Oklahoma will beat Alabama in the national championship this year.

    Whoever takes a flyer on him will get a great one

    Edit: Doesn't mean I want us to give up on Kizer. Let's give Kizer at least 2 years.

    The dude who has RG3 as his avatar made this post, right? 

    By the way, this sounds like a miserable way to go through life. Never understood it. 

    @adoug319 said:

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield.

    A Johnny Manziel who runs from cops drunk. Should be great. 

  • @adoug319 said:

    LOL, what fire and competitiveness did Brandon Weeden have? Dude wasn't a warrior, it was easy to tell on and off the field.

    And If Baker Mayfield doesn't have NFL caliber talent, then neither did Russell Wilson.

    See Below:

    IMG_2420.PNG

    I don't think anyone can equate a college QB with a successful NFL QB.  Tim Tebow lovers thought he would be the rage of the NFL...Manzealots did too....

    1. Kellen Moore Boise St.  50-3

    1. Colt McCoy, 45-8, 2006-2009, Texas
    2. Andy Dalton, 42-7, 2007-2010, TCU
    3. David Green, 42-10, 2001-2004, Georgia
    4. Peyton Manning, 39-6, 1994-1997, Tennessee
    5. Ken Dorsey, 38-2, 2000-2002, Miami
    6. Rick Leach, 38-8, 1975-1978, Notre Dame
    7. Matt Leinart, 37-2, 2003-2005, USC
    8. John Rauch, 36-8, 1945-1948, Georgia
    9. Dan Lefevour, 36-15, 2006-2009, Central Michigan
    10. Chuck Ealey, 35-0, 1969-1971, Toledo
    11. Chad Pennington, 35-4, 1997-1999, Marshall
    12. Jay Barker, 35-5, 1991-1994, Alabama
    13. Tim Tebow, 35-6, 2006-2009, Florida
    14. Eric Crouch, 35-7, 1998-2001, Nebraska
    15. Chuck Long, 35-13, 1982-1985, Iowa

    You got about 2.5 good NFL QBs from that list.
     

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't think anyone can equate a college QB with a successful NFL QB.  Tim Tebow lovers thought he would be the rage of the NFL...Manzealots did too....

    1. Kellen Moore Boise St.  50-3

    1. Colt McCoy, 45-8, 2006-2009, Texas
    2. Andy Dalton, 42-7, 2007-2010, TCU
    3. David Green, 42-10, 2001-2004, Georgia
    4. Peyton Manning, 39-6, 1994-1997, Tennessee
    5. Ken Dorsey, 38-2, 2000-2002, Miami
    6. Rick Leach, 38-8, 1975-1978, Notre Dame
    7. Matt Leinart, 37-2, 2003-2005, USC
    8. John Rauch, 36-8, 1945-1948, Georgia
    9. Dan Lefevour, 36-15, 2006-2009, Central Michigan
    10. Chuck Ealey, 35-0, 1969-1971, Toledo
    11. Chad Pennington, 35-4, 1997-1999, Marshall
    12. Jay Barker, 35-5, 1991-1994, Alabama
    13. Tim Tebow, 35-6, 2006-2009, Florida
    14. Eric Crouch, 35-7, 1998-2001, Nebraska
    15. Chuck Long, 35-13, 1982-1985, Iowa

    You got about 2.5 good NFL QBs from that list.
     

    Just wait and see my friend

  • @adoug319 said:

    Whoever gets Baker Mayfield is going to luck out. Dude is unbelievable.

    Been doubted his whole life at every stage, keeps a list of things people say he can't do, and his life revolves around proving people wrong. The most competitive dude I've ever seen.

    I really believe Oklahoma will beat Alabama in the national championship this year.

    Whoever takes a flyer on him will get a great one

    Edit: Doesn't mean I want us to give up on Kizer. Let's give Kizer at least 2 years.

    The dude who has RG3 as his avatar made this post, right? 

    By the way, this sounds like a miserable way to go through life. Never understood it. 

    @adoug319 said:

    A Johnny Manziel who actually cared and didn't have substance abuse issues would've been a Top 15 QB.

    Let's do a math problem:

    Manziel's talent, fire and competitiveness + a strong work ethic - drugs = Baker Mayfield.

    A Johnny Manziel who runs from cops drunk. Should be great. 

    @wargograw said:

    The dude who has RG3 as his avatar made this post, right? 

    By the way, this sounds like a miserable way to go through life. Never understood it. 

    A Johnny Manziel who runs from cops drunk. Should be great. 

    You didn't want RG3 to be good when he signed here? I was hoping he'd be good, haven't gotten around to changing it yet.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I don't think anyone can equate a college QB with a successful NFL QB.  Tim Tebow lovers thought he would be the rage of the NFL...Manzealots did too....

    1. Kellen Moore Boise St.  50-3

    1. Colt McCoy, 45-8, 2006-2009, Texas
    2. Andy Dalton, 42-7, 2007-2010, TCU
    3. David Green, 42-10, 2001-2004, Georgia
    4. Peyton Manning, 39-6, 1994-1997, Tennessee
    5. Ken Dorsey, 38-2, 2000-2002, Miami
    6. Rick Leach, 38-8, 1975-1978, Notre Dame
    7. Matt Leinart, 37-2, 2003-2005, USC
    8. John Rauch, 36-8, 1945-1948, Georgia
    9. Dan Lefevour, 36-15, 2006-2009, Central Michigan
    10. Chuck Ealey, 35-0, 1969-1971, Toledo
    11. Chad Pennington, 35-4, 1997-1999, Marshall
    12. Jay Barker, 35-5, 1991-1994, Alabama
    13. Tim Tebow, 35-6, 2006-2009, Florida
    14. Eric Crouch, 35-7, 1998-2001, Nebraska
    15. Chuck Long, 35-13, 1982-1985, Iowa

    You got about 2.5 good NFL QBs from that list.
     

    Just wait and see my friend

    @adoug319 said:

    Just wait and see my friend

    I will....and not hold my breath while doing so.

  • @wargograw said:

    The dude who has RG3 as his avatar made this post, right? 

    By the way, this sounds like a miserable way to go through life. Never understood it. 

    A Johnny Manziel who runs from cops drunk. Should be great. 

    You didn't want RG3 to be good when he signed here? I was hoping he'd be good, haven't gotten around to changing it yet.

    @adoug319 said:

    You didn't want RG3 to be good when he signed here? I was hoping he'd be good, haven't gotten around to changing it yet.

    I wanted him to become good overnight as well.   Unfortunately I stopped believing in Santa at a young age.  

  • Did anyone else watch the UVA - Boise St. contest last nite?

    I caught a few chunks and thought I may have seen a darkhorse candidate... UVA's Kurt Benkert, a 6'4 Sr. Made a few really nice throws including a gem of a 55-yd bomb that dropped into the lap of a streaking WR between two DBs for a TD. Nice poise... was surveying the field... a lot to like.

  • Did anyone else watch the UVA - Boise St. contest last nite?

    I caught a few chunks and thought I may have seen a darkhorse candidate... UVA's Kurt Benkert, a 6'4 Sr. Made a few really nice throws including a gem of a 55-yd bomb that dropped into the lap of a streaking WR between two DBs for a TD. Nice poise... was surveying the field... a lot to like.

    @tour2ma said:

    Did anyone else watch the UVA - Boise St. contest last nite?

    I caught a few chunks and thought I may have seen a darkhorse candidate... UVA's Kurt Benkert, a 6'4 Sr. Made a few really nice throws including a gem of a 55-yd bomb that dropped into the lap of a streaking WR between two DBs for a TD. Nice poise... was surveying the field... a lot to like.

    No, but I watched the first half of the Wyoming- Hawaii game, got the rest of it on DVR. Have to call it an early night for the trip to Indy.  Could see why there's some buzz about Allen. 

  • Allen's one I've yet to see.

    Meanwhile at USC... have to say that while I see some good out of Darnold, I'm not seeing a wunderkind yet...

  • Allen  was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.

  • Allen  was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Allen  was not very good the first half and I went to bed. I do know he is facing far lessor talent every week than other QBs.

    I believe his stats vs the big boys (teams of the top 5 leagues) is pretty 'eh'...

  • Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire

  • Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire

    @baconhound said:

    Feel bad for any top prospect brought into this dumpster fire

    That's ok, he'll be written off within three games by the knee-jerk geniuses that make up the overwhelming majority of Browns fans.